Wales 20mph limit starts Sept 17th - a heads-up

[mark61]

Our fiesta has a smart alternator, CRAP, in bad weather or hot weather with stop-start it can't keep up, so having AC is a bit of a waste of time in traffic when you need it most.

Coast more.
Turning on headlights overrides the smart alternator,(in my van at least) although turning on the AC doesn't, neither do the electric heated mirrors.

I say "coast" but it's probably the wrong term, I don't mean coast in neutral. Overrun perhaps?

 

[Glandwr]

Our fiesta has a smart alternator, CRAP, in bad weather or hot weather with stop-start it can't keep up, so having AC is a bit of a waste of time in traffic when you need it most.

I'm afraid the car is built to a price Kev. You get what you pay for, no offense

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Isn't everything these days, the world is full of crap due to bean counters, good job it didn't happen in Victorian times or we'd still be suffering from cholera etc.

 

[Geek]

30mph speed limits are silly. The reason for 20mph limits is pedestrian survivability.
The 30 limits are default for all "built up areas" which are defined by street lamp spacing. It makes sense for those limits to be. 20mph. There never was a valid reason for 30mph.
Yea, it will slightly increase journey times. Easy fix: set off earlier.

 

[mark61]

After reading all the pro 20 mph limit post, I can't help but wonder if 10 mph is an appropriate limit. Nah! too fast.

 

[colinm]

After reading all the pro 20 mph limit post, I can't help but wonder if 10 mph is an appropriate limit. Nah! too fast.

Maybe we need someone walking in front with a flag.

 

[colinm]

30mph speed limits are silly. The reason for 20mph limits is pedestrian survivability.
The 30 limits are default for all "built up areas" which are defined by street lamp spacing. It makes sense for those limits to be. 20mph. There never was a valid reason for 30mph.
Yea, it will slightly increase journey times. Easy fix: set off earlier.

The village I grew up in had around 2000 inhabitants, but no 30 limit, the council would not consider a limit as, in their words, the street lights where too far apart. One year a little girl was killed coming out the village hall by a fast car, more calls where made to have a 30limit, but the council stuck to their guns, a few months later another little girl was killed, the council still resisted a limit, but the village got organised and put a lot of pressure on council and they grudgingly made half the village 30mph.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Streetlamp spacing is incorrect, they only have to be a regular distance the actual distance doesn't matter if you can see them.

 

[marchie]

Streetlamp spacing is incorrect, they only have to be a regular distance the actual distance doesn't matter if you can see them.

When I got my speeding ticket on 8th November 1992, I told the policeman that I thought the dual carriaeway was a 40mph limit. 'No, sir, if you look at the street lamps, you will see that they are 30 metres apart, which signifies a 30mph limit'. My comment that if I had been measuring the distance between lamps instead of looking where I was going was not well received ...

The distance between street lamps has since been amended to no more than 200 metres, but they can be as close as 30 metres, and 183 metres is also allowed [200 yards]

Steve

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Yup, that's more or less what the speed awareness bloke said last week.

What has always irked me is, the 40 limit zones give you a sign on alternate sides of the road, but with the 30 limit you only get one going in and quite often there can be a large vehicle or a tree masking it, ditto for 20 limits, if these are so important (rightly) to observe why not have more signage and on the road surface too.

 

[mark61]

Yup, that's more or less what the speed awareness bloke said last week.

What has always irked me is, the 40 limit zones give you a sign on alternate sides of the road, but with the 30 limit you only get one going in and quite often there can be a large vehicle or a tree masking it, ditto for 20 limits, if these are so important (rightly) to observe why not have more signage and on the road surface too.

If there are any more signs, it would make cycling on the pavement very difficult.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Don't get me started on bleeding cycling super highways, a monstrous waste of money, on a minority group, great idea to make the roads narrower for the people who supposedly pay for them but the buggers don't use them, they mostly (around here) go through the poorer parts of the town and they just litter them and park on them so cyclist have managed to screw themselves royally onto even narrower roads.

 

[number14]

Here is an interactive map of the affected areas:

The roads in Wales remaining 30mph limits as massive new default 20mph comes in

Councils can opt roads out of the 20mph limit if they want to

www.walesonline.co.uk

It's a bit clunky but may be of use.

 

[trevskoda]

Don't get me started on bleeding cycling super highways, a monstrous waste of money, on a minority group, great idea to make the roads narrower for the people who supposedly pay for them but the buggers don't use them, they mostly (around here) go through the poorer parts of the town and they just litter them and park on them so cyclist have managed to screw themselves royally onto even narrower roads.

Here cars park on them half up the ditch as well, also some bus stops are on them, so whats the point.
In Germany presbiterians and cycles sometimes use the same wideish inner path, bikes bing the bell and walkers move over to let them past, there is a grass verge about 2ft wide between road and these lanes.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

I have no problem with cyclists who act sensible, but so many don't & then do the goody two shoes thing if challenged.

But they all look like frogs from behind, even the really fat ones.

 

[r4dent]

Horsepower = (Torque X RPM)/5252.

True if measuring Torque in Pound Feet;

Not true if using SI (Newton Meters)

 

[Geek]

After reading all the pro 20 mph limit post, I can't help but wonder if 10 mph is an appropriate limit. Nah! too fast.

No, 20 wasn't chosen at random (unlike 30). It's the speed that most accidents are survivable (unless you're crushed). 10 would not be safer.

 

[Geek]

Streetlamp spacing is incorrect, they only have to be a regular distance the actual distance doesn't matter if you can see them.

Are you sure about that? I think there is a precise set distance.

 

[colinm]

Yup, that's more or less what the speed awareness bloke said last week.

What has always irked me is, the 40 limit zones give you a sign on alternate sides of the road, but with the 30 limit you only get one going in and quite often there can be a large vehicle or a tree masking it, ditto for 20 limits, if these are so important (rightly) to observe why not have more signage and on the road surface too.

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01921/SN01921.pdf

Explained in above document. you will note that where lamp posts indicate a 30mph limit, but the actual limit is higher, then there will be repeater signs every second lamp post.

 

[Robmac]

Here cars park on them half up the ditch as well, also some bus stops are on them, so whats the point.
In Germany presbiterians and cycles sometimes use the same wideish inner path, bikes bing the bell and walkers move over to let them past, there is a grass verge about 2ft wide between road and these lanes.View attachment 122990

Aren't Catholics allowed to use them in Germany then Trev?