Wales 20mph limit starts Sept 17th - a heads-up

I watched the coverage on this on BBC and while I get the logic that being struck by a car at 20mph is better than 30mph, I simply think this is going too far. Using the same logic you stand a better chance of survival being struck by a car travelling at at 10mph than 20 mph.
I listened to a gardiner who has to travel from job to job, and he reckoned this will cost him £10,000 a year in lost revenue, and additional fuel and other costs. It’s also worth noting that whereas this may save lives on one hand, but what about the additional pollution from vehicles being driven with lower gears. Will this not lead to more deaths from the additional air pollution.
I have noted this creeping in up here, particularly in the border towns, and Perth and Kinross. I just don’t reckon this is a good move, and anyone who gets charged with driving at 23mph has my sympathy.
 
Normally motorhome users are casual drivers who like to take in the scenery and the urbanisations that they pass through and possibly looking for potential parking spots.

As such I personally don’t mind the 20mph limit in urban areas in Wales as it allows me to relax as I pass through an urban area and not feel guilty holding up traffic.

In fact even in 30mph zones in England, if motorhomes were limited to 20mph in these areas, I would be perfectly happy. It would mean cars would have to accept that I am driving slowly because the law prevents me from going faster.

Yes I drive differently in a car as it’s normally an A to B trip and I want to get to B quickly. Motorhome driving is a different more casual experience with potential stops daytime on route if something we spot appeals.

To be fair we have a 9 speed auto van so driving around town and stop go is a doddle. It may be a different story for manual vans with a clutch.
 
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Just to make sure we've also changed the Welcome to Wales signs as well..

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Fisherman said:
I watched the coverage on this on BBC and while I get the logic that being struck by a car at 20mph is better than 30mph, I simply think this is going too far. Using the same logic you stand a better chance of survival being struck by a car travelling at at 10mph than 20 mph.
I listened to a gardiner who has to travel from job to job, and he reckoned this will cost him £10,000 a year in lost revenue, and additional fuel and other costs. It’s also worth noting that whereas this may save lives on one hand, but what about the additional pollution from vehicles being driven with lower gears. Will this not lead to more deaths from the additional air pollution.
I have noted this creeping in up here, particularly in the border towns, and Perth and Kinross. I just don’t reckon this is a good move, and anyone who gets charged with driving at 23mph has my sympathy.
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Quite agree Bill, although I do agree with 20mph outside schools.
 
Can't understand what all this fuss is about. The population of Wales is barely over 3 million. Yet according to the Daily Telegraph 28million people across the UK (equivalent to more than one in three of the population) now live in local authority areas which accept 20mph as the right speed limit where people live, work or play.

Yet it is Wales and Drakeford that are all over the media with cabinet ministers calling the Welsh proposal "absolutely insane".

Could there possibly be an election in the offing?
 
Too many university graduates wae nothing jobs working for councils and governments trying to make them selves important making decisions for the masses. It’s the same everywhere near us they took away a lane of a busy main rd to make a cycle lane then six month later give planning permission for about 2000 homes right off it now it’s just chaos all day and you see about three bikes a day using it.
 
Wully said:
Too many university graduates wae nothing jobs working for councils and governments trying to make them selves important making decisions for the masses. It’s the same everywhere near us they took away a lane of a busy main rd to make a cycle lane then six month later give planning permission for about 2000 homes right off it now it’s just chaos all day and you see about three bikes a day using it.
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Did the same here, no one uses them i have ever seen, total wast of our monies, people making these daft things up should be jailed for wasting funds.
 
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Not 100% but the speed awareness bloke said as much.
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I finally got round to looking it up. It was as I remembered:

Section 82(1)(a) (of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 (RTRA 1984)) defines a restricted road in England and Wales as a road which is provided with "a system of street lighting furnished by means of lamps placed not more than 200 yards apart".

That was subsequently amended to something like 185 metres apart.
 
All the villages in the highlands got the 20 signs a little while ago. It does appear that a vast majority of drivers don’t observe the new limit.
 
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