not charging starter battery and idle too fast

Harrytherid said:
It clicks like a good'n. My skill with multi meter limited but we have continuity and then no continuity so I think the relay is working so it is a case of find the fuse. I will look at them all before I give up but too dark and wet now so lets hope for a drier morning. Thanks again lads, lovely to have such people about.
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Bear in mind depending on the converter some are fused local to the leisure battery (on our Swift there is a fuse just next to the battery terminal in the under floor battery locker)
 
Harrytherid said:
Thanks Trev , I have put old battery in garage on charge as too wet to work on wagon outside and we shall see. Is that purely a continuity test? Must be mustn't it?
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Yes and if it opens and closed the heavy contacts then working fine, a bench test with a load is best, old car h lamp bulb etc will work.
 
Or a proper 2 way charger.
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Harrytherid said:
The split charge relay should be fused at both the starter battery and leisure battery bank ends. My original had piggy back fuse blocks each end each containing a 50A and 2A fuse. Check/replace those fuses first as they seem to go more often than the relay do
Good idea Nabism I have looked at the fuse list but none of them seem to be probable's for that but I will check them when the rain lets up. In fact just about every heavy fuse is about to be checked. In my experience; relays tend to look a little dodgy when they burn out or whatever. This one looks and sounds (when shaken) pristine (on the table beside me) so I am hopeful you are right about the fuse.
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The ones I am talking about are not in any fuse box but a few inches away from both the starter and leisure batteries on mine. These are as per original install by Geist/LMC and not an add on as I first thought. Mine has two wires and a double, piggy back fuse holder each end. From memory the 50A fuses do the split charging and the 2A fuses are for the Schaudt EBL control system.
If either of the 50A or 2A fuses failed the split charge didn’t work. On mine the split charge relay is inside the Schaudt unit and the 2A switches the relay I believe. As yours is different the two sets of fuses may be separate also so may be harder to locate. Good luck 👍
 
Thanks Nabism. Does anyone know what is the red plastic thingy, looks like a fuse but it is plastic over the top of the battery under the floor on the passenger side of the 2007 Ducato (driver side of my LHD)
 
Yes that is the one, so none of us know what it is for eh? Seems a bit elaborate for a washer to screw down the terminal block to the battery; it looks like some kind of a fuse but it is plastic! Got me foxed, be nice to know though. Red to show it MUST have some purpose, I don't know. The Split charge fuse would seem to be one of those beige, brown red and orange blocks on the left. I replaced one of those when I renewed the battery some time ago. If my memory serves me right (unlikely these days) it is the red one 50A.
 
Cor NOW what has gone wrong, or more probably what am I doing wrong. Went to move wagon into more favourable position for access to those fuses (too near the garden and Julie's prized plants), checked it was not in gear hit the starter and crank, crank, crank but no firing. It was going fine through the cold weather when one might have expected problems but it is much warmer now and it refuses to fire. Battery now on charge for next attempt, any ideas?
 
Wait and see when battery has been charged I reckon.

Obscure things I could think of if it still doesn’t go then would be check fuel/water separator. For a few years now I have just jumped in and turned the key, worst was jump starting, so not best to advise. Apart from that I have never had a Fiat either. I wouldn’t worry though until you have given a good, fully charged battery a go first. Hope that’s all it needs 👍
 
Harrytherid said:
Thanks Nabism. Does anyone know what is the red plastic thingy, looks like a fuse but it is plastic over the top of the battery under the floor on the passenger side of the 2007 Ducato (driver side of my LHD)
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See my post #6 in an earlier thread. The red clip is shown from 6,15

Plastic clip on vehicle battery

Just looking at the vehicle battery in my Peugeot Boxer Motorhome in the cab passenger footwell Can anyone tell me what the red clip with 2 posidrive screws that fixes to the battery is, what is its function ? I am struggling to remove the red positive side assembly after loosening off the 10mm...
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I read all that thread and it seems over elaborate for such a small job but maybe that is it. Just a marker. Well 14volts this morning, crank x lots and still no go. Where would the fuel/water separator be then? anyone know?
 
As it was working, but not since your relay investigation, I would re-check all the relays and things that you disturbed, that they're refitted correctly.
Is there any smell of diesel when it turns over? Maybe fuel pump relay not good.
 
Pretty sure all refitted correctly. Only one relay removed and that refitted with great care. No smell of diesel from in the cab but it is raining again,(must get a gazebo to work under) but thanks for the pointers.
 
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