C&CC Price Rises

[barryd]

Could it be that the price rises are not entirely due to just having a hook up? A lot of sites have a reception, an office, maybe even a club with a bar and there is costs for maintenance. All these factors will have to be added in to the annual electric bills.

It will be interesting to see if they drop the prices with regards to the latest price cap though.

It will be as you say a combination of all these factors and more. Everything has gone up and continues to do so. All businesses are having to pass this on to their customers. The less facilities a site has the less it will be effected but even the very basic CL sites with just a field and a tap seem to have gone up a bit presumably for that reason. Just general inflation. Emptying the sceptic tank will no doubt have gone up in price as will any other maintenance.

Im still determined to find places for less than a tenner this year though. Some were as cheap as £5 last year.

 

[Penny13]

We spend a lot of time on one site the eletric is 58p a KW our bill was 93p last month, we use our solar panel and gas. Ron has a big battery thing and we charge our usb stuff on that. Diesel heating we don’t need at the moment the winter is looking expensive

 

[Boris7]

MISINFORMATION ALERT!

I'm definitely getting bl**dy senile

My post was referring to the CARAVAN AND MOTORHOME CLUB (CMC) and not the Camping & Caravanning Club.

Very sorry about that folks!

Gin will do that

 

[iandsm]

I have noticed that at the two Club sites we have stayed on in the last couple of weeks there are many empty pitches whereas usually over all the years we have used these sites it's been difficult to get a pitch because they were so busy. I wonder of the price increase have put people off. fir instance where are now last year was £19 a night, it's now £24.40. and that's a basic no facilities site.

 

[Robmac]

MISINFORMATION ALERT!

I'm definitely getting bl**dy senile

My post was referring to the CARAVAN AND MOTORHOME CLUB (CMC) and not the Camping & Caravanning Club.

Very sorry about that folks!

I've recently cancelled my CMC membership Marie and hadn't planned to join the other one.

However, this weekend I heard that membership of the CCC gives you a 25% discount from their sites (if over 60), so I am now considering joining.

 

[exwindsurfer]

That's the reason we are still with the ccc Rob .We bined the other lot a long time ago .

 

[Biggarmac]

However, this weekend I heard that membership of the CCC gives you a 25% discount from their sites (if over 60), so I am now considering joining.
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The wrinklies discount is only for out of season in their main sites.
The THSs are the main reason many of us are in CCC. Find them on the members "out & about" app.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

I have noticed that at the two Club sites we have stayed on in the last couple of weeks there are many empty pitches whereas usually over all the years we have used these sites it's been difficult to get a pitch because they were so busy. I wonder of the price increase have put people off. fir instance where are now last year was £19 a night, it's now £24.40. and that's a basic no facilities site.

Reliable information from some "insiders" are telling me that visitor numbers for the C&MC are definitely down this year.

 

[Lefty]

As CS site owner who tries to keep my prices reasonable £20/night with ehu £15 without, I have found that some people use as much electric as possible. One man and a dog used 57 kw in two days! Now at great expense all my pitches are metered you get 5kw/day 50p thereafter so everybody is not paying for the high users. Treat people right and they will keep coming back and you get 5 star reviews! It’s Mill Meadow Campsite if your wondering where tis!

 

[Moped]

However, this weekend I heard that membership of the CCC gives you a 25% discount from their sites (if over 60), so I am now considering joining.

The wrinklies discount is only for out of season in their main sites.
The THSs are the main reason many of us are in CCC. Find them on the members "out & about" app.
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Not entirely true as there is a discount code available for peak season bookings if you are a qualifying over 60’s member. The pitch fees are not discounted, just the adult fee.

But you do have to prebook online, as you do with all the CCC discount codes.

Due to French troubles I have be comparing site fee costs of stopping in the U.K. for 4 weeks as against ferry to France (Poole Cherbourg - we don’t do Dover) and free or low cost aire stopovers and even with the CCC discount (£220 on a 4 week U.K. trip for an electric pitch), France works out cheaper overall. But this does not take into account diesel.

However if we stop in the U.K. at non electric grass pitch sites, the U.K. works out cheaper overall. But these are not CCC sites as all their non electric grass pitches in areas we visit are fully booked.

But can you guarantee U.K. June weather in August?

Mrs Moped has suggested that if you go to France you can at least continue driving south until the rain stops and the sun breaks out.

 

[Chrisinchip]

I was on a CL in May that had introduced metered electricity starting this year. Just looking at booking another CL and again they have introduced meters for this year. I think it will soon be the norm and I would much rather pay for what I use than what someone else wastes. At 36p/kW for electricity and just over 11p/kWh for refillable gas using gas for heating and hot water was a no brainer. The owner said that it tended to be caravans that used most but that may be because they use exchange bottles rather than refillable lpg.

I can imagine the cost of introducing metering to a campsite’s infrastructure would be colossal, however I’d be very happy to have my usage metered and pay for what I use, instead of having to pay for others use as well.

 

[GMJ]

We just had a week at a non club site in Devon who had metered electric for the first time however they had also put their pitch prices up by over 10% on last year too! Added together we felt that this was excessive. By all means charge for the sparks but not as well as a significant hike in prices too. As it stands it'll be the last time we visit there I think.

 

[Moped]

I can imagine the cost of introducing metering to a campsite’s infrastructure would be colossal, however I’d be very happy to have my usage metered and pay for what I use, instead of having to pay for others use as well.

What would it take to read the meter as they do on some of the Spanish sites we visit?

Can’t be that hard can it?

Fact is the CAMC make fat profits from their flat charge rate so whilst they may complain about the size of their electric bill, metering is never going to happen in the short to medium term. In June to August how much electric do we genuinely use? Think about it.

Our electric use at home during these months amounts to no more than £2 a day and we hardly use the heating apart from hot water. Are we going to use more in our motorhome than at home?

Even in Spain in winter on ASCI sites where 4kw daily is included we rarely pay any premium. But we do use gas for heating as and when required.

As to the situation when we are all running electric cars and motorhomes, that is a different story.

 

[barryd]

As CS site owner who tries to keep my prices reasonable £20/night with ehu £15 without, I have found that some people use as much electric as possible. One man and a dog used 57 kw in two days! Now at great expense all my pitches are metered you get 5kw/day 50p thereafter so everybody is not paying for the high users. Treat people right and they will keep coming back and you get 5 star reviews! It’s Mill Meadow Campsite if your wondering where tis!

Brilliant. That's the way to go. On the first stop on our current trip near lake Bala we stayed on a new five van site where the owner was offering two prices. £15 none ehu and £20 with ehu but on an honesty basis. I advised him to increase his price for ehu to £25 at least in the winter. Metering is better though really.

 

[Lizzo]

Remember that the C&CC have "Service stop offs" where their members can go to certain sites to empty waste and fill water, also use showers. £7.65 allows you to stop for up to 3 hours. www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/campsites/facilities/service-stop-off-points
The list of sites where this is available is on the link. They don't advertise it and it takes a bit of finding on their website.

Helpful info, thank you

 

[barryd]

We just had a week at a non club site in Devon who had metered electric for the first time however they had also put their pitch prices up by over 10% on last year too! Added together we felt that this was excessive. By all means charge for the sparks but not as well as a significant hike in prices too. As it stands it'll be the last time we visit there I think.

To be fair with inflation rates the increases are probably about right. Just about everything is going up 10% ish and more a year at the moment from mobile bills to campsites. Rises in costs have to be past on to the end user.

The CLs we have used so far are all ten percent or more higher than they are listed on search for sites.

 

[Okta]

As CS site owner who tries to keep my prices reasonable £20/night with ehu £15 without, I have found that some people use as much electric as possible. One man and a dog used 57 kw in two days! Now at great expense all my pitches are metered you get 5kw/day 50p thereafter so everybody is not paying for the high users. Treat people right and they will keep coming back and you get 5 star reviews! It’s Mill Meadow Campsite if your wondering where tis!

Good move, hope to visit you sometime in the future.

In June to August how much electric do we genuinely use? Think about it.

Most of us probably use very little but not all. We have all seen the awning heaters go on when the evenings become cooler. One CL site owner I spoke to earlier in the year told me about one visitor in last years heatwave who used a vast amount of electricity running their air conditioning. They left the aircon on all day with the windows and doors wide open in a ridiculous attempt to try and cool the awning they were sitting in. I would much rather idiots paid for their own wastefulness, I don’t want to subsidise them.

 

[Lizzo]

The C & CC website is a bit of a mare to find anything on, but what the club offers as Temporary Holiday Sites and DA rally meets is superb. There are now loads all over the country, they are cheap, friendly, very well run and offer everything an off site camper needs. Look them up if you can manage to navigate the dreaded website.

Interesting. Just joined C&CC and as already said, web site is difficult to navigate. Are the Temporary Sites and rallies listed on the site and if so, could you add the link so that I can find them! Thank you

 

[Biggarmac]

Interesting. Just joined C&CC and as already said, web site is difficult to navigate. Are the Temporary Sites and rallies listed on the site and if so, could you add the link so that I can find them! Thank you

The easiest way to find the THSs and meets is on the "out & about" app. If you get the magazine posted to you ask for the out & about list to be sent with your mag. Myccc.co.uk/outandabout.
If you are a member of motorhomer.com there are also rallies on there.

 

[Moped]

Most of us probably use very little but not all. We have all seen the awning heaters go on when the evenings become cooler. One CL site owner I spoke to earlier in the year told me about one visitor in last years heatwave who used a vast amount of electricity running their air conditioning. They left the aircon on all day with the windows and doors wide open in a ridiculous attempt to try and cool the awning they were sitting in. I would much rather idiots paid for their own wastefulness, I don’t want to subsidise them.

Hadn’t thought of that but on a recent 4 week stop on a CCC site (we like the area and have family there) it was noticeable that many caravaners sit in awnings until bedtime with some having their TV on. And then you have the family tenters that must have some form of night heating.

Motorhomers generally were in their vehicles.

You don’t get tenters on CAMC sites but you do get the awning users. There surely has to be an argument for those who use awnings to pay a higher fee or be charged a supplement?

Both the CCC and CAMC should consider this as a way to cover their excessive energy bills, rather than a single cover charge for all.

In fact this now explains why many private sites charge a £10 or so supplement for an awning use so thank you for explaining why this is. And no reason why the clubs can’t do the same.