All electric motorhomes.... Possible or not?

[Derekoak]

Ah, it has a 5 megawatt connection to the grid..... so when its not sufficiently sunny and there's a high pressure sitting over the UK meaning wind is producing virtually nothing, the EVs will be charged up by gas fired power stations. He seemed quite dismissive of "fossil burners".....

We have supply links to other wind/sun systems. We can bring in power from them on the odd occasions where we have no sun and no wind. Of course we should have more supply links in the future. As I say there are potential storage options too. Enabling demand flexibility tariffs are another partial solution. Hydrogen power station conversions are another possibility. Gas should become less and less relevant. We do not need to stay with the status quo.

 

[bjh]

Brilliant video. I think that must answer most peoples worries and insecurities about electric vehicles. This guy has sorted the problems that many none believers keep raising. Personally I can manage quite happily on a 13A plug at home, but should I need a top up some where the day is coming when it will be easy. Electric motor homes will come, but it will take a while before engineers develop practical solutions. There will be an answer.

 

[Deleted member 47550]

AFAIK no fuel stations are getting grants, if they want to stay in business they need to do it themselves. Shell already own over 135,000 public charge points across europe, but I think the traditional fuel station will be a thing of the past. I can see there being Costa and Starbucks type charging centres, you go to the coffee shop and charge your car.

You're right Trev. On the news yesterday we have the first in the UK only electric service/fuel station near Braintree and guess what it has a Costa...........

UK’s first electric-only car charging station opens for business

The first of over planned locations.

www.theverge.com

My wife pointed out - I don't want to spend half an hour at a service station waiting for car to be charged! Normally when we go on a long journey we stop to fill up with fuel; perhaps use toilets and then go. Don't want to be hanging around those places. I suppose as technology get's on top of charging the time it takes will come down - a bit like mobile phones which used to take all day to charge and now take perhaps half an hour or so. It was interesting to see at the back of this site away from main forecourt there were 6 Tesla charging points - I don't know much about them but have noticed Tesla's don't seem to be on them very long?

 

[trevskoda]

Very few tesla cars here, mainly Nissan/VW and BMW.

 

[colinm]

I see that several companies involved with Hydrogen have got together, I still think this is the answer for motorhomes and other large/heavy vehicles needing long ranges.
Hydrogen power: Firms join forces in bid to lower costs - BBC News

 

[oppy]

As a youngster we had trolley busses, or silent death as my dad called them, and during a short spell of unemployment I got a temporary job as a milkman that came with an electric vehicle, so have we progressed ?????????????? A friend of ours ( a rather posh one !!) has an electric Jag and he can't even visit relatives in Cornwall without an overnight stop en route, our 11 year old Kia diesel Ce ed will do it on less than a tank full. We have friends and family down there and generally only fill up for our return journey. Not having read the 14 previous pages this is probably a repeat of much that has already been said, but I just wonder how environmentally friendly the manufacturing process is in this ' save the planet' crusade

 

[Tookey]

As a youngster we had trolley busses, or silent death as my dad called them, and during a short spell of unemployment I got a temporary job as a milkman that came with an electric vehicle, so have we progressed ?????????????? A friend of ours ( a rather posh one !!) has an electric Jag and he can't even visit relatives in Cornwall without an overnight stop en route, our 11 year old Kia diesel Ce ed will do it on less than a tank full. We have friends and family down there and generally only fill up for our return journey. Not having read the 14 previous pages this is probably a repeat of much that has already been said, but I just wonder how environmentally friendly the manufacturing process is in this ' save the planet' crusade

The consequences of mining and manufacturing and overall 'green's impact' is still debatable but what isn't is that millions of people (plus flora and fauna) are breathing CE exhaust fumes everyday and we are going to reduce and then eradicate that. It is arguable that that alone should be enough of an incentive.

 

[trevskoda]

Some of the top boffins say its to late for a reversal and we are doomed.

 

[colinm]

A friend of ours ( a rather posh one !!) has an electric Jag and he can't even visit relatives in Cornwall without an overnight stop en route, our 11 year old Kia diesel Ce ed will do it on less than a tank full. We have friends and family down there and generally only fill up for our return journey.

A friend of mine has property in Cornwall and regularly drives down there in his Tesla. Considering the choice of vehicles he has to do the journey that tells me all I need to know.
BTW, he has been known to do the return journey in one day, if business needs.
p.s. that's around 300 miles each way.

 

[Robmac]

A friend of mine has property in Cornwall and regularly drives down there in his Tesla. Considering the choice of vehicles he has to do the journey that tells me all I need to know.
BTW, he has been known to do the return journey in one day, if business needs.
p.s. that's around 300 miles each way.

Problem is Colin that a Tesla is out of reach for many people and is quite a bit lighter than a motorhome which is what the thread is about.

Apologies if that is out of context as I haven't read a lot of posts in this thread.

 

[colinm]

Problem is Colin that a Tesla is out of reach for many people and is quite a bit lighter than a motorhome which is what the thread is about.

Apologies if that is out of context as I haven't read a lot of posts in this thread.

My post was in direct reply to one about driving cars to Cornwall. As I post just above, I don't believe BEV's are practical for Motorhomes, at least not at present, and I don't see any battery improvements in the pipeline that will change that.

 

[Derekoak]

This article is about the governments own expert's predictions. Saying if we invest now we will pretty much be paid back by savings by 2050.
The point is it assumes a massive role for hydrogen. Once you have 10,000 massive offshore wind turbines there is enough energy to not care about differences in efficiency and storage is largely hydrogen stores from windy periods

Ending UK’s climate emissions ‘affordable’, say official advisers

CCC recommendation includes half of cars being electric by 2030, gas boilers phased out and 10,000 wind turbines

www.theguardian.com

 

[mark61]

The additional weight is only a paperwork/legal problem.
What is now based on a 3.5 tonne van will have to be based on the 5+ tonne version. Extra 1500 KG of battery should be ok for 500 miles
Day drive to Morocco still out the window though.

 

[Makzine]

Day drive to Morocco still out the window though.

But surely if driving to Morocco the solar panels on the roof should top up as you drive ☀

 

[Asterix]

Heres the answer you've all been looking for,couple of bolts through the roof and you're ready to go!

Siemens Sees a Future for Electric Trucks Powered by Overhead Lines

Germany's first 'eHighway' truck route has opened along a stretch of the autobahn. Siemens spoke to GTM about the potential to expand and commercialize the technology.

www.greentechmedia.com

 

[trevskoda]

But surely if driving to Morocco the solar panels on the roof should top up as you drive ☀

Would not give a fraction of whats required.

 

[trevskoda]

Heres the answer you've all been looking for,couple of bolts through the roof and you're ready to go!

Siemens Sees a Future for Electric Trucks Powered by Overhead Lines

Germany's first 'eHighway' truck route has opened along a stretch of the autobahn. Siemens spoke to GTM about the potential to expand and commercialize the technology.

www.greentechmedia.com

Had that in the fifties, called trolleybuses, big problem was they could not divert round a road problem and required a truck to pull them to other lines, also all this electric has to come from some other place, the energy used to build turbines is greater than the return, so not green at all.

 

[maingate]

Heres the answer you've all been looking for,couple of bolts through the roof and you're ready to go!

Siemens Sees a Future for Electric Trucks Powered by Overhead Lines

Germany's first 'eHighway' truck route has opened along a stretch of the autobahn. Siemens spoke to GTM about the potential to expand and commercialize the technology.

www.greentechmedia.com

Siemens are about to get into Hydrogen in a big way. I got this from my Grandson who works for them and hopes to be part of it.

 

[Derekoak]

Heres the answer you've all been looking for,couple of bolts through the roof and you're ready to go!

Siemens Sees a Future for Electric Trucks Powered by Overhead Lines

Germany's first 'eHighway' truck route has opened along a stretch of the autobahn. Siemens spoke to GTM about the potential to expand and commercialize the technology.

www.greentechmedia.com

I mentioned that earlier. @Asterix Thanks for finding a link. @trevskoda the difference with the 50's is that the trucks have a battery to get off route to their final destination, from memory 30 mile battery range. They would have no problem with a normal road problem. They would divert and recharge when back on the overhead lines.

 

[trevskoda]

I mentioned that earlier. @Asterix Thanks for finding a link. @trevskoda the difference with the 50's is that the trucks have a battery to get off route to their final destination, from memory 30 mile battery range. They would have no problem with a normal road problem. They would divert and recharge when back on the overhead lines.

Not much good in country side, folk these days would object to cables all over the place