All electric motorhomes.... Possible or not?

TrickyDicky

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The UK government is seemingly bringing forward to 2030 their ban of petrol or deisel engines in new vehicles.
As far as I'm aware there's been no reporting of how this new greener world will be achievable with the types of vehicles we drive and the distances we cover.
Or are only cars involved in this changeover with commercial vehicles continuing as now with, mainly, deisel engines.
Does anyone know?
 

mfw

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Check out sussexcampervans they already have an electric camper van based on the nissan nv
 

colinmd

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There was a BEV motorhome announced, last year I think. IIRC had a range of 80miles, the justification of this was that the average MH journey was around 80 miles, this totally overlooks the actual usage patterns, which often consist of a long journey followed by several short journeys.
So unlike cars there is still no practical MH BEV which will suit the majority of people, I would note Scania produce a BEV HGV.
 

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I think its cars at first but no one has said that as yet, as for a van, tests have been done and range will soon be 300+ with swappable battery packs for commercial vans.
Here is the big problem, you will not be allowed to take a diesel engine anywhere in built up places, plus the tax and insurance will price them out forcing electric only.
 

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I suspect as Trev says the restrictions as to where you can go with a diesel all over Europe will make life awkward but electric motorhomes will never work for me. When we tour Europe we practically spend most of the summer off grid. Its a none starter. Maybe our next van might well be our last one but it will be a diesel for sure. Of course we tend to use the scooter for touring about on so not being able to go into towns or cities should not be a problem unless of course they start banning scooters also. Cant see that happening anytime soon.
 

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From what I've heard with electric vans the claimed range is achievable in stop start traffic (slowing down recharges batteries) there have been lots of claims of higher mileages but no mention of the costs, there is also a load cost to electric vehicles with a reduced payload due to the weight of the batteries.
 

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I suspect as Trev says the restrictions as to where you can go with a diesel all over Europe will make life awkward but electric motorhomes will never work for me. When we tour Europe we practically spend most of the summer off grid. Its a none starter. Maybe our next van might well be our last one but it will be a diesel for sure. Of course we tend to use the scooter for touring about on so not being able to go into towns or cities should not be a problem unless of course they start banning scooters also. Cant see that happening anytime soon.
They already have electric scooters and your old piston engine lump will be in a museum along with my old bikes I have hidden away. :cry:
 

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Just a thought crept into my brain reading here. My thought is there will still be diesel available after whatever date they put to change, and my reasoning is agricultural vehicles. Have heard of electric lorries etc, but not heard a thing about tractors? Any thoughts on this?
 

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We have hungry, cold and skint famalies in this country and many scraping by from pay cheque to pay cheque and just kerping their bangers on the road. Forcing people to purchase electric cars by pushing up the price of diesel and road tax etc is political suicide. Any party in power will do it as gently as International pressure allows. Only commercial will feel the pressure in my opinion
 

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I suspect only one diesel/petrol vehicle per household is a more likely outcome which will effect our hobby
 

colinmd

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Just a thought crept into my brain reading here. My thought is there will still be diesel available after whatever date they put to change, and my reasoning is agricultural vehicles. Have heard of electric lorries etc, but not heard a thing about tractors? Any thoughts on this?
There are already electric tractors, but only small ones at present, much of the UK is farmed by contractors with big heavy tractors running long hours at high power levels, none of the 'tricks' like regen braking will work for this type of usage, maybe we'll get a government grant to fit charging stations on every field. :ROFLMAO:
 

trevskoda

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There are already electric tractors, but only small ones at present, much of the UK is farmed by contractors with big heavy tractors running long hours at high power levels, none of the 'tricks' like regen braking will work for this type of usage, maybe we'll get a government grant to fit charging stations on every field. :ROFLMAO:
Swap out batteries on trailers on the farm, so 2 hrs work, tea change battery and work to dinner time, change battery again, not rocket science, its going to happen faster than you think and someone is going to make a killing on the new tec.
 

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Electric vehicles are coming weather we like it or not ,I could manage with an electric car .but the cost of a electric small car is too much for the .low miles I now drive £26 400 for a corsa e ,So what would be the cost of a mothome ? And what hidden costs will we be hit with a few years down the line as motoring is such a high goverment revenue,
 

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Fact is there are to many of us on the road in the last 30 years and they are going to cut it down by pricing it out of our hands.
 

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Swap out batteries on trailers on the farm, so 2 hrs work, tea change battery and work to dinner time, change battery again, not rocket science, its going to happen faster than you think and someone is going to make a killing on the new tec.
People don't realise how much environmental damage is done by making all these batteries. Apart from the cost of these very large battery banks, having a second swapout one will make it totally unviable if that was the approach
It's going to be delayed and delayed longer then you think.


Tallking of tractors, this might be of interest. Watched a BBC Countryfile a whileback when they did a head-to-head on Tractors.
This might be the full thing, or it might be just the electric bit (given the site, it will also be weighted opinions - bear that in mind when watching)
 

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Last year we met a German couple in a partly professionally, partly self converted fully electric camper. This is on the col d'Isoard in the french alps they drove from Germany, recharging at camp sites and service stations. It was most likely a Nissan van. Getting to the top of the col took twice the charge as the normal for those miles travelled, but they expected to recover some down the other side.
It is possible now, but obviously not the same as some do it.
 

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I wouldn’t worry too much, those still alive when we are forced to electric motorhomes probably won’t be able to afford the electric bill. I had an almost all electric cottage for 20 odd years and the bills were eye watering for a 2 up 2 down
 

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The problem with the tractor robert showed off, in the real world of agriculture it's a toy, suitable for hobby farmers and gardeners. John Deere are working on tractors with up to 1mw output, even a super charger would struggle to charge that up overnight.
 

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I wouldn’t worry too much, those still alive when we are forced to electric motorhomes probably won’t be able to afford the electric bill. I had an almost all electric cottage for 20 odd years and the bills were eye watering for a 2 up 2 down
I really think people think they will be able to use free charging points for ever more if they go electric.
Deluded or what!
 

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If you are paying for the electric then a BEV costs about 1/3 per mile compared to an ICE, add in the lower servicing costs, and that's where you get back the initial outlay if you do the miles. I did the sums a few years back and it didn't work out for our usage, but things have moved on, not worked it out lately, but should make more sense now.
 

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