All electric motorhomes.... Possible or not?

Some folk drive 500 miles in one stroke, thank heavens its a gas oven, where on earth would the power come from for an induction electric oven, also no solar panels on the roof to charge the 12v batteries for lights and tv etc, they require a wild camper in their factories to tell them how its done.
 
Think the most I’ve done in a day was 700 miles Glasgow to euro Disney using the tunnel. I think we’re getting there with batteries but any electric motorhome even the smaller ones are gonna struggle with the 3.5 ton
 
Well if this is the attitude then my toddlers future van will probably be diesel! Electric 2030 my ass


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Wully said:
Think the most I’ve done in a day was 700 miles Glasgow to euro Disney using the tunnel. I think we’re getting there with batteries but any electric motorhome even the smaller ones are gonna struggle with the 3.5 ton
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And forget wilding as you won't have any B2B systems fitted to recharge after a night off-grid.

If you drop the Diesel Engine, you'll need to fit a Generator instead
 
We should all just buy the newest diesel / petrol van we can afford in 2029.:) The problem will be if the government tax IC engines off the road.
I certainly couldn't afford even the lowest priced EV car and when they do get old enough to afford one the batteries will be knackered. :(
Unless batteries get much cheaper and longer lasting , 25yrs+, I think the EV's will decimate the older vehicle secondhand market .
Can you imagine the secondhand value of a 10 yr old EV if you need a £5,000 battery two years after you bought it ?
 
My prediction.
As we get closer to electrification date the take up will be very low.
The govt will apply pressure. Demonstrations in support of diesel and petrol will take place. A political party will take on the cause . The govt will be forced to back down
 
Martin P said:
My prediction.
As we get closer to electrification date the take up will be very low.
The govt will apply pressure. Demonstrations in support of diesel and petrol will take place. A political party will take on the cause . The govt will be forced to back down
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I agree with you. The cost of EVs will still not be affordable by 2030 and the charging points can not be fitted to every home, impossible in flats and terraced houses. I think the government is saying 2030 to impress this summit in Glasgow, but they will have to back down for the reasons you mentioned.
Also the cost of a charging point is said to be £850.
 
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If the idea of using small nuclear generators in shopping complexes is taken up to charge them is taken up, we will be more worried about the pollution and deaths from the terrorist attack on the shopping complex. Or the failure of the Chinese made version.
 
Pedalman said:
I agree with you. The cost of EVs will still not be affordable by 2030 and the charging points can not be fitted to every home ,impossible in flats and terraced houses. I think the government is saying 2030 to impress this summit in Glasgow, but they will have to back down for the reasons you mentioned.
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At the moment the big car companies are only producing expensive EV's, meanwhile china has several companies producing decent quality EV's at prices comparable to ICE cars, in the next few years there will be a levelling up of prices or the legacy car manufacturers will be out of business.
Already diesels are disappearing out of model ranges, and more manufacturers are being found to be cheating emissions, Toyota have just had to pay a $180 million fine in US.
Meanwhile VW has started it's change to EV's with the first plants halting all ICE production, IIRC there plan is all European plants will be EV in the next four years.
Tell me, have you got a petrol station at your house? I know I haven't, but I do have electricity, meanwhile I suspect every supermarket is planning to install charge points.
 
I think fuel stations will probably be around until 2050 as cars produced 2029 will still be around plus all the classic cars and motorcycles. I am sure the internal combustion engine will be superceded but I don't think it will be by battery powered vehicles. I think they are the new betamax or laserdisc
 
JLR announced they will be only manufacturing electric vehicles from 2025! I suspect the electric revolution will be upon us sooner that we might imagine....
 
Pedalman said:
We should all just buy the newest diesel / petrol van we can afford in 2029.:) The problem will be if the government tax IC engines off the road.
I certainly couldn't afford even the lowest priced EV car and when they do get old enough to afford one the batteries will be knackered. :(
Unless batteries get much cheaper and longer lasting , 25yrs+, I think the EV's will decimate the older vehicle secondhand market .
Can you imagine the secondhand value of a 10 yr old EV if you need a £5,000 battery two years after you bought it ?
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Totally agree, I mean it just doesn't balance out the infrastructure needed in say north Scotland or even rural Scotland would be massive. I mean we can't even get reliable broadband, or decent roadstructure so what chance of enough charge points?? Nil I'd say. Unless the government do a hugely massive installation of power points and, and this is the night provide huge cash support to change petrol or diesel to EV powered units and I don't see that do you?? No didn't think so
 
Something I have noticed over on Facebook. Whenever an advert comes up for an electric vehicle the majority, and I mean around 90% of the comments are very much anti electric vehicles as a whole. So it seems I am not alone, most people just don't want them
 
Martin P said:
Something I have noticed over on Facebook. Whenever an advert comes up for an electric vehicle the majority, and I mean around 90% of the comments are very much anti electric vehicles as a whole. So it seems I am not alone, most people just don't want them
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Martin, I got my first mobile phone in 1995. At the time all I got were negative comments from just about everyone. It was so basic it could only make calls nothing else. And it was so large it used to stick out of my jacket when placed in my inside pocket, I got it for business reasons. To make a call cost 50p a minute, and the phone cost around £300 to buy. Now all those that said why would anyone want a mobile phone have one. Right now I am posting this on an iPhone, which can do things we could only have dreamt of back in 1995.
Technology will improve, the cars will get cheaper, the infra structure will develop and when we are all history hardly anyone will be driving fossil fuelled vehicles of any sort. You actually won’t even be driving anymore, steering wheels and pedals being things you go to see in museums by then. And people will marvel how we managed to navigate large vehicles in tight roads full of other road users, with so few accidents.
Try reading the response from the end oh the 19th century when the horseless carriage was ridiculed, and we were told that it would never replace the horse and cart, and no one wanted them then either.
 
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