Booked myself an appointment

Sounds more a consequence of the application rather than the vaccine that was administered?
When I used to give blood it was a touch of pot luck if there was no bruising whatsoever or a big blue bruise.

I have "jumping veins" so hopefully will get the right bit stabbed when it is my turn!
oh yes definately caused by applicatioin wildbus......like i said i think she injected into a vein... and that was what caused the vein lower down in crook of arm to swell and go black and blue...not my arm itself..........what worries me is ....will this render the 2nd jab ineffective........and any repercussions from vaccine going into my blood stream instead of into muscle etc......
called 111........however after speaking to three different people....first two didnt know.....third one said i shouldnt be concerned.........as it was unlikely to have gone into the vein...............
well if thats the case why did my vein swell up and go black and blue (in the crook of my arm.......which is much lower down than where i was jabed).

..if it didnt go into the vein,,,,,,why did the jab site bleed so much. and take quite some time to stop it.........

....i could understand it if the jab site had bruising......but certainly i should not have experienced it in the vein where a blood sample is uaually taken..........

hope all goes well with your jab wildbus....take care
 
oh yes definately caused by applicatioin wildbus......like i said i think she injected into a vein... and that was what caused the vein lower down in crook of arm to swell and go black and blue...not my arm itself..........what worries me is ....will this render the 2nd jab ineffective........and any repercussions from vaccine going into my blood stream instead of into muscle etc......
called 111........however after speaking to three different people....first two didnt know.....third one said i shouldnt be concerned.........as it was unlikely to have gone into the vein...............
well if thats the case why did my vein swell up and go black and blue (in the crook of my arm.......which is much lower down than where i was jabed).

..if it didnt go into the vein,,,,,,why did the jab site bleed so much. and take quite some time to stop it.........

....i could understand it if the jab site had bruising......but certainly i should not have experienced it in the vein where a blood sample is uaually taken..........

hope all goes well with your jab wildbus....take care

I'd keep nagging. I don't like to pay too much attention to needles, but I have seen needle in, withdraw plunger looking for lack of blood, then inject.

No idea if that is standard practice for CV vaccine, but definitely nag.
 
oh yes definately caused by applicatioin wildbus......like i said i think she injected into a vein... and that was what caused the vein lower down in crook of arm to swell and go black and blue...not my arm itself..........what worries me is ....will this render the 2nd jab ineffective........and any repercussions from vaccine going into my blood stream instead of into muscle etc......
called 111........however after speaking to three different people....first two didnt know.....third one said i shouldnt be concerned.........as it was unlikely to have gone into the vein...............
well if thats the case why did my vein swell up and go black and blue (in the crook of my arm.......which is much lower down than where i was jabed).

..if it didnt go into the vein,,,,,,why did the jab site bleed so much. and take quite some time to stop it.........

....i could understand it if the jab site had bruising......but certainly i should not have experienced it in the vein where a blood sample is uaually taken..........

hope all goes well with your jab wildbus....take care
It was only today when I looked at a picture of a box of AZ vaccines I saw it said "intra muscular". It only then twigged that injections go into muscles! (you can tell I am clearly medically trained :p ). I am really only used to needles being used to remove things i.e. blood and so into veins.
I was thinking today actually that if the vaccine was injected to the bloodstream would it actually get around the body faster in fact and get to the heart and lungs quicker? (but obviously the people making them know what they are doing).
It is a shame that the Covid-19 Vaccine cannot be administered via a sugarcube, like the Polio (I think it is?) one. Maybe that will come at some time - it would be so much easier and faster to deploy if that could happen.

Hopefully you will get some answers and I would hope as it got in the body - even in an unconvential route - it will have been having an effect :)
 
I'd keep nagging. I don't like to pay too much attention to needles, but I have seen needle in, withdraw plunger looking for lack of blood, then inject.

No idea if that is standard practice for CV vaccine, but definitely nag.
I always look in a different direction!
 
oh yes definately caused by applicatioin wildbus......like i said i think she injected into a vein... and that was what caused the vein lower down in crook of arm to swell and go black and blue...not my arm itself..........what worries me is ....will this render the 2nd jab ineffective........and any repercussions from vaccine going into my blood stream instead of into muscle etc......
called 111........however after speaking to three different people....first two didnt know.....third one said i shouldnt be concerned.........as it was unlikely to have gone into the vein...............
well if thats the case why did my vein swell up and go black and blue (in the crook of my arm.......which is much lower down than where i was jabed).

..if it didnt go into the vein,,,,,,why did the jab site bleed so much. and take quite some time to stop it.........

....i could understand it if the jab site had bruising......but certainly i should not have experienced it in the vein where a blood sample is uaually taken..........

hope all goes well with your jab wildbus....take care
Could you not phone your surgery and speak to a doctor about it?
 
Could you not phone your surgery and speak to a doctor about it?

If it's anything like our surgery 'tis tricky.

Never had a problem before, in fact they're an excellent GP practice, but....

Since last Friday (nearly a week!) I have been unable to get through to them on the phone.
It's been constantly engaged, no matter what time of day you ring.
Don't know what the issue is, but its not good.

I have had to resort to putting down in writing what I wanted to discuss with the doc and have sent poor Neil up to the surgery to hand it over at the reception desk!

Coming to some sad state of affairs when you have to old-fashioned write to the GP to get through to them!!! 😡

They're gonna regret having made me do that when the doc reads the letter .... :devilish: 👹:ROFLMAO: :cool:

Gawd help the other poor blummin patients who are housebound etc.
 
Could you not phone your surgery and speak to a doctor about it?
phoned doc yesterday (wednesday)....she said she is not worried about it???????Hmmmm,, rather mistrustful of medical folk after my experiences over the past few years.......


,,just hope it hasnt rendered the 2nd jab ineffective...if its gone round my blood stream instead of muscle as the liver will have probably mopped it up..
or worse still hope it doesnt interfere with C treatment..
 
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Just had call from surgery 10 mins ago, must have been literally minutes after Neil dropped my letter off.

Amazing what an old fashioned communication can achieve!
Wonder if anybody even remembers what letters are these days? :unsure: :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::cool:

Anyway, I've got my second jab booked at GPs a week tomorrow. Yay!

That's less that 8 weeks since the first jab, so hopefully the 2nd jab will be slightly more effective than it would have been if I'd had to wait the full 12 weeks. They aren't currently allowed within the guidelines to offer a 2nd jab at less that 8 weeks from the 1st - or so I've been told.

Result. That's another irritating worry ticked off the to do list (y);) 🥳
 
,,just hope it hasnt rendered the 2nd jab ineffective...if its gone round my blood stream instead of muscle...... or worse still hope it doesnt interfere with C treatment..

Very much doubt it will have done either of those, Trixie, stop worrying (y);) xx
 
If it's anything like our surgery 'tis tricky.

Never had a problem before, in fact they're an excellent GP practice, but....

Since last Friday (nearly a week!) I have been unable to get through to them on the phone.
It's been constantly engaged, no matter what time of day you ring.
Don't know what the issue is, but its not good.

I have had to resort to putting down in writing what I wanted to discuss with the doc and have sent poor Neil up to the surgery to hand it over at the reception desk!

Coming to some sad state of affairs when you have to old-fashioned write to the GP to get through to them!!! 😡

They're gonna regret having made me do that when the doc reads the letter .... :devilish: 👹:ROFLMAO: :cool:

Gawd help the other poor blummin patients who are housebound etc.
Just discovered our nhs dentist has changed its rules and we are no longer on the books. New regime is they only treat anyone who is nhs after they have treated everyone who is private. In our case that would be mid June....as that is so far in the future they are not taking appointments...catch 22 and f.o. methinks.
Specsavers also have no nhs appointments and offered us a 'very reasonable' deal for a check up....bye bye nhs.
 
Just discovered our nhs dentist has changed its rules and we are no longer on the books. New regime is they only treat anyone who is nhs after they have treated everyone who is private. In our case that would be mid June....as that is so far in the future they are not taking appointments...catch 22 and f.o. methinks.
Specsavers also have no nhs appointments and offered us a 'very reasonable' deal for a check up....bye bye nhs.
I thought Dentists were still closed for NHS appointments due to some (very strange) regulation, so can only treat Private currently? (I have wondered how much the nations already poor teeth & gum health will have declined in the last 12 months :( )

Ref Specsavers, how much is a eye test now?
In Scotland eye treatment seems to be totally free and Specsavers are as far as I can tell operating normally (within the social distancing regulations). I've had a couple of letters reminding me to schedule an annual checkup.
I needed a fairly urgent appointment last Sept during the Keslo meet ... called them in the morning and went in the next day.
 
I thought Dentists were still closed for NHS appointments due to some (very strange) regulation, so can only treat Private currently? (I have wondered how much the nations already poor teeth & gum health will have declined in the last 12 months :( )

Ref Specsavers, how much is a eye test now?
In Scotland eye treatment seems to be totally free and Specsavers are as far as I can tell operating normally (within the social distancing regulations). I've had a couple of letters reminding me to schedule an annual checkup.
I needed a fairly urgent appointment last Sept during the Keslo meet ... called them in the morning and went in the next day.
It could be just our local specsavers who are very booked up. They are sending details of their package but I don't see why we should pay if we are entitled not to under the nhs. Trying not to get angry...
Re the dentist, it was news to us too. They are bupa...
 
I thought Dentists were still closed for NHS appointments due to some (very strange) regulation, so can only treat Private currently? (I have wondered how much the nations already poor teeth & gum health will have declined in the last 12 months :( )

Ref Specsavers, how much is a eye test now?
In Scotland eye treatment seems to be totally free and Specsavers are as far as I can tell operating normally (within the social distancing regulations). I've had a couple of letters reminding me to schedule an annual checkup.
I needed a fairly urgent appointment last Sept during the Keslo meet ... called them in the morning and went in the next day.

My NHS dentist has apparently been operating right throughout the pandemic, no 'strange regulations' here.

He and his wife operate a 100% NHS practice, as far as I know.
They are like hen's teeth, so I feel quite lucky to have found them a few years back.

Maybe dentistry is different in Scotland, David?
 
My NHS dentist has apparently been operating right throughout the pandemic, no 'strange regulations' here.

He and his wife operate a 100% NHS practice, as far as I know.
They are like hen's teeth, so I feel quite lucky to have found them a few years back.

Maybe dentistry is different in Scotland, David?
Dentistry has definately been affected. Dental students are going to have to retake an entire year as no practical training in practices have been taking place. my checkups have been cancelled and only emergencies dealt with.

This was a year ago and maybe as more mitigations have been developed, things changed.

This I think looks an interesting article ... https://dentistry.co.uk/2021/03/29/nhs-dental-targets-increase-to-60-from-april/
 
Going back to first lockdown our NHS dentist was only treating emergency cases, sometime since then they returned to standard treatments. Our optician was also doing something similar, I had to have replacement glasses last summer and they where concerned as to the readout from 'puffer', got sent to local Moorfields clinic, turns out I just look hard. :ROFLMAO:
 

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