Possible Permitted Overnight Parking in Whitby

When tourism gets back to normal we would be the first to be banned again ? As a small Town it has too many visitor's.
 
As far as I can see Alf Abbott, Cons. West Cliff, Stewart Campbell, Cons. Streonshalh, and David Chance, Cons. Mayfield, are those most geographically connected with Whitby, but whether they would be supportive I don’t know. And whether others would have a special interest in the subject I can’t establish without local knowledge.
 
barge1914 said:
As far as I can see Alf Abbott, Cons. West Cliff, Stewart Campbell, Cons. Streonshalh, and David Chance, Cons. Mayfield, are those most geographically connected with Whitby, but whether they would be supportive I don’t know. And whether others would have a special interest in the subject I can’t establish without local knowledge.
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Ah, you beat me to it. Here's the response I'd already typed up. You've already done much of it.

It's a huge task emailing all the councillors you could usefully email. The group being encouraged to make the proposal are the Conservative Group on Scarborough Borough Council. They are here listed by group; https://democracy.scarborough.gov.uk/mgMemberIndex.aspx?FN=PARTY&VW=LIST&PIC=0

I know none of them personally though I did have some little email dealings with Andrew Backhouse – who now seems to be independent. From memory I'd have said he was conservative. Eight years ago he was quoted as being in favour of providing permitted places on car parks when he was the Cabinet Holder. I understand he no longer owns a caravan site and I might include him – and he might encourage the other independents.

The fairly obvious candidates are the representatives for the Whitby wards. These are Mayfield (perhaps), Whitby and Westcliff, and Streonshalh. I didn't know the consituencies, I had to look at the map.


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Here is the listing by ward. https://democracy.scarborough.gov.uk/mgMemberIndex.aspx?FN=WARD&VW=LIST&PIC=0

If I were to choose then I'd go for Cllr Bastiman who seems to be in charge of the whole thing and ALL the Members for the local constituencies not jsut those probably in favour of the project because of belonging to once political group. Then I'd maybe trawl through the home addresses of the whole 46 looking for those with Whitby addresses. There are at least two names missing from the list I was used to years ago.

Lot of work – but very satisfying. Oh, and although all the emails would be identiical I'd name each one individually. It's my limited experincethat multiple mail shots are identified sometimes by email programmes as junk and only get seen if the recipient happens to check his junk box.

If you choose more than just Cllr Bastiman then I'd love to know what responses you get.

EDITED to add ALL Whitby councillors.
 
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maureenandtom said:
Ah, you beat me to it. Here's the response I'd already typed up. You've already done much of it.

It's a huge task emailing all the councillors you could usefully email. The group being encouraged to make the proposal are the Conservative Group on Scarborough Borough Council. They are here listed by group; https://democracy.scarborough.gov.uk/mgMemberIndex.aspx?FN=PARTY&VW=LIST&PIC=0

I know none of them personally though I did have some little email dealings with Andrew Backhouse – who now seems to be independent. From memory I'd have said he was conservative. Eight years ago he was quoted as being in favour of providing permitted places on car parks when he was the Cabinet Holder. I understand he no longer owns a caravan site and I might include him – and he might encourage the other independents.

The fairly obvious candidates are the representatives for the Whitby wards. These are Mayfield (perhaps), Whitby and Westcliff, and Streonshalh. I didn't know the consituencies, I had to look at the map.


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Here is the listing by ward. https://democracy.scarborough.gov.uk/mgMemberIndex.aspx?FN=WARD&VW=LIST&PIC=0

If I were to choose then I'd go for Cllr Bastiman who seems to be in charge of the whole thing and ALL the Members for the local constituencies not jsut those probably in favour of the project because of belonging to once political group. Then I'd maybe trawl through the home addresses of the whole 46 looking for those with Whitby addresses. There are at least two names missing from the list I was used to years ago.

Lot of work – but very satisfying. Oh, and although all the emails would be identiical I'd name each one individually. It's my limited experincethat multiple mail shots are identified sometimes by email programmes as junk and only get seen if the recipient happens to check his junk box.

If you choose more than just Cllr Bastiman then I'd love to know what responses you get.

EDITED to add ALL Whitby councillors.
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Ok, job done. I have sent emails to Councillor Bastiman, the three Whitby Councillors and Councillor Backhouse. I'm not sure how the latter will receive this as he is still declaring an interest in a local campsite. I'll let you all know if I get any replies.
 
barge1914 said:
Ok, job done. I have sent emails to Councillor Bastiman, the three Whitby Councillors and Councillor Backhouse. I'm not sure how the latter will receive this as he is still declaring an interest in a local campsite. I'll let you all know if I get any replies.
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Be interesting to see how they reply especially after the lockdown over #covid19. Will they be for bringing much needed income in to the town from us OR will they still be pushing the Motorhoming community away to other areas who appreciate our input and spend.
 
There are another three representing Whitby. Sue Tucker (alongside Alf Abbott), Michael Stonehouse (alongside Stewarrt Campbell), and Glen Goodberry (wirh David Chance). The one name missing is Joe Plant who now sits only on N Yorks County Council. I thought he lived in Whitby and was one of our worst opponents. Joe was devious. When devising the TRO for Whitby he sent an email to a N Yorks senior manager asking to find ways of avoiding going through the TRO mandatory procedure - the email dropped in to me, probably by accident, with the answer to an FoI query. I've no idea why he's no longer a councillor for SBC but I'm sure he's still influential. An email to him might bring useful information or he might just ignore you. Here's his personal page http://joeplant.yourcllr.com/

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I'm not sure how far you wish to take this but there might be a facebook page where, eventually, local residents' comments might be published. https://www.facebook.com/groups/realwhitby/ I'm not a memher so I know little of it other than the address. And of course, there is Whitby Town Council itself.
 
Yes I wondered about the Town council, I was reluctant to press their buttons without some intel on their opinions.
 
barge1914 said:
Yes I wondered about the Town council, I was reluctant to press their buttons without some intel on their opinions.
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I‘ve had a quick look through the Town Council minutes and not surprisingly there is no mention of this issue. The last full Town Council meeting appears to be 30 March and I suspect at the moment normal co7ncil business is being conducted through web meetings as required. Unless anyone has a local contact the only source will be local press.
 
There is a facebook group called "Campaign for Real Aires CAMpRA". Barge1914 would you mind if I copied your letter to that forum?
 
channa said:
As s former ratepayer to Scarborough council, I have been critical in the past of their antics and “tourist prevention officers” attitude towards visitors .

What is often overlooked in the case of Whitby (and Filey) is the residents themselves are oppressed by SBC . give or take Whitby to Scarborough is just shy of 20 miles. the decision making processes equally 20 miles away and the locals with justification feel the poor relatives investment and policy concentrates around the town of Scarborough itself no where else matters

It is no different to this area which falls under Kirklees there is a strong resentment that Huddersfield receives all the spoils and Dewsbury if lucky gets a few scraps..

Of course it happens all over the country, but worth considering it isn’t the townsfolk of Whitby itself that has created problems in The past before we write off the town completely.

The car park suggested, is quiet enough , not surrounded by local hotels etc who could raise possible objections or campsites arguing a conflict of interest. A taxi to and fro the town centre will see change from a fiver each way and allows folk to have a drink or two if visiting the hostelries in the town. Oh and taxis are part of the local economy .

In the longer term if the idea is successful then who knows the calendar may be extended ? In either event the proposal is more than we have at the moment
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Whitby won't be seeing me. After the 'good times' rejection I've found new camper friendly destinations.
 
Biggarmac said:
There is a facebook group called "Campaign for Real Aires CAMpRA". Barge1914 would you mind if I copied your letter to that forum?
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Hi. In fact the more people who copy it and put it to good use the better. It would be particularly good if people who live in areas where such issues exist copy adapt and send it to their own councillors. A letter from a ratepayer counts more brownie points than one who is ‘out of the Parish’.
 
It's our duty to help these people:


Yorkshire Oneupmanship? I'd have put this in fun and games but I think they are serioius.

Naz Shah, MP for Bradford:. only this afternoon I rang my sister to ask her, do you remember when we used to go to Scarborough because mum used to send us there for summer holidays? That is what poverty is.

Rtbert Goodwill, MP for Scarborough: Many of my friends never went on holiday.

Judy Cossins: I grew up in Scarborough …. couldn't afford to go anywhere other than a day trip to Whitby.

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk

Yorkshire MP under fire after saying holidays in Scarborough are 'what poverty is'

A Yorkshire MP has come under fire after saying holidays in Scarborough are 'what poverty is' after being sent there by social services as a child.
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Gavin Williamson and they promote Scarborough he was born and educated In the time the irony of course is as an MP represents the constituency miles away in the Midlands
 
Good on Whitby not a good experiance in February when I was parked in the large overflow carpark. Me and one other car and a warden walked all the way over the carpark to tell me my wheels were slightly over the lines and if i didn't put them in I would have to buy 2 tickets and also to make sure I wasent staying overnight. Had a better welcome in windimere marina. Apart from that shouldent we be e-mailing our councllers to encourage /put a few places in there park and rides. Would pay a nominal fee if required. As we won't be in france this year will still have money to spend. Come on then councillors who wants my money 😂
 
Here is the link to the letter on the North Yorkshire Enquirer. (Ignore the name...they’ve done a Guardian on the spelling for my security). We’ll have to wait and see where it goes.
Can I ask you to copy the link to any other forums or elsewhere you think it may be of interest or possibly do some good.

North Yorks Enquirer | “A Breath of Fresh AIRE”

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