No MOT is OK 🤔

[wildebus]

I've watched a lot of EV stuff on YT and on TV but I don't recall that ever coming up.

Did a search and it sounds like where there is security it is quite poor. I must have seen something good and assumed it was standard.

 

[Concept]

Feed up with a car parked (dumped) in our street since December I grassed on it. I check online first and it has no MOT.
Reported it on line and this is the response:

"Thank you for your online report.
With regards to this, Police need to catch a vehicle being driven with no MOT to act on this. If you are to see this vehicle being driven, please call and report this, providing their location and direction of travel so that we can raise a live log with this information."

So seems alls ok not to have a MOT, surprised me! At least I didn't get done for wasting police time

Apparently if its just parked it's a council problem.......

 

[yeoblade]

I’ve not had an MOT on any of my vehicles, driven all over the U.K. and Europe for years without any problems.

Not required in IOM?

 

[trevskoda]

I’ve not had an MOT on any of my vehicles, driven all over the U.K. and Europe for years without any problems.

Want to reg my car and van over there, good backhander will be sorted.

 

[Deleted member 86180]

Ha ha could do Trev, but they would only be valid for six months from when you got home

 

[trevskoda]

Ha ha could do Trev, but they would only be valid for six months from when you got home

I love the IOM and been many times, and to see the TT, big problem as with coming here is the ferry prices, last time i was over I hired a light aircraft and flew the family over, then taxi into the town to catch the tram up the mountain.

 

[Wooie1958]

Not required in IOM?

Taken from the official gov.im site

Although there is no periodic MOT test for vehicles in general, annual roadworthiness tests are required for all goods vehicles over 3500kgs, buses, minibuses, passenger cars that are to be used as public passenger vehicles (taxis or private hire cars) and hire and drive vehicles which are over 3 years old.

Isle of Man Government - Vehicle registration and licensing

Information about vehicle registration and licensing on the Isle of Man including application forms.

www.gov.im

 

[Deleted member 86180]

I love the IOM and been many times, and to see the TT, big problem as with coming here is the ferry prices, last time i was over I hired a light aircraft and flew the family over, then taxi into the town to catch the tram up the mountain.

Just saw this Trev. Cheaper option - come over two weeks before in your van and leave a week after, plenty of wild camping and services if in the know. It’d be cheaper than a charter flight TT and GP .

 

[Deleted member 86180]

Taken from the official gov.im site

Although there is no periodic MOT test for vehicles in general, annual roadworthiness tests are required for all goods vehicles over 3500kgs, buses, minibuses, passenger cars that are to be used as public passenger vehicles (taxis or private hire cars) and hire and drive vehicles which are over 3 years old.

Isle of Man Government - Vehicle registration and licensing

Information about vehicle registration and licensing on the Isle of Man including application forms.

www.gov.im

Sorry just saw this. Quite right too, but I wasn’t referring to (and don’t own) goods vehicle over 3500kgs, busses, minibuses, passenger cars like taxis, or hire & drive vehicles over 3 years old. Not routinely checking these vehicles would be rather irresponsible. I was referring vehicles owned privately - like our motorhome, our cars (over the years), my two motorcycles!

You obviously searched the IOM Government web site to check my claim, put two and two together and arrived at five .

Just ask if you would like to know anything about the legislation on the Isle of Man concerning vehicle safety. For example, despite never having an MOT on any vehicle I have ever owned, it is possible to to be prosecuted for driving a vehicle on the island which is not roadworthy. To elaborate this, if you were involved in in an RTC on the island, your vehicle may be subjected to a vehicle examination and if found unroadworthy you would be prosecuted for that.

From what little knowledge I have of the U.K. MOT system, I’m more than happy with the more sensible Manx legislation. IMO of course.

I thank you.

 

[mistericeman]

Sorry just saw this. Quite right too, but I wasn’t referring to (and don’t own) goods vehicle over 3500kgs, busses, minibuses, passenger cars like taxis, or hire & drive vehicles over 3 years old. Not routinely checking these vehicles would be rather irresponsible. I was referring vehicles owned privately - like our motorhome, our cars (over the years), my two motorcycles!

You obviously searched the IOM Government web site to check my claim, put two and two together and arrived at five .

Just ask if you would like to know anything about the legislation on the Isle of Man concerning vehicle safety. For example, despite never having an MOT on any vehicle I have ever owned, it is possible to to be prosecuted for driving a vehicle on the island which is not roadworthy. To elaborate this, if you were involved in in an RTC on the island, your vehicle may be subjected to a vehicle examination and if found unroadworthy you would be prosecuted for that.

From what little knowledge I have of the U.K. MOT system, I’m more than happy with the more sensible Manx legislation. IMO of course.

I thank you.

Same in the UK ....

MOT test is no guarantee of roadworthyness

And even WITH a current mot you could still be prosecuted for vehicle defects ...

Even mot exempt vehicles like classic vehicles still need to be roadworthy .

 

[Deleted member 86180]

Same in the UK ....

MOT test is no guarantee of roadworthyness

And even WITH a current mot you could still be prosecuted for vehicle defects ...

Even mot exempt vehicles like classic vehicles still need to be roadworthy .

Exactly, but as stated the Manx system (having our own legislation) shied away from the ‘garage on a nod’ system and empowered the vehicle owner - as it should be. IMO ‘of course’. Also saves money.

 

[Stanski]

You can insure an UnMOTed vehicle with no problems and lots are (Even ones over 3 years old)
You can't Tax an uninsured or unMOTed vehicle though.

Just done just that. Insured vehicle, no MoT or Tax.
Tried to tax, but no MoT (just ran out), refusal.
Strangely I recall in the past Tax is possible if no insurance, using V5 and Direct Debit.
Could be mistaken in this last aspect.

Now have MoT, Tax and Insurance, all within 24 hrs. I love Gov.UK website for simplicity.
Although direct debit setting up has become a tad more awkward, and expensive on monthly payments.

 

[Stanski]

I quite like the fact that we are tracked. Many a serious criminal been brought to justice because of this.

I don't care if they know where I go, I've nothing to hide. Same with CCTV, doesn't bother me in the slightest. If I had my way, it would be compulsory for every vehicle on the roads to have a dashcam.

Long live Big Brother!

Surprised at this revelation Robmac,
You wanting to be seen on CCTV, surely not after a lockin and you crawling home.
Could be rather embarrassing.

 

[Deleted member 86180]

Just done just that. Insured vehicle, no MoT or Tax.
Tried to tax, but no MoT (just ran out), refusal.
Strangely I recall in the past Tax is possible if no insurance, using V5 and Direct Debit.
Could be mistaken in this last aspect.

Now have MoT, Tax and Insurance, all within 24 hrs. I love Gov.UK website for simplicity.
Although direct debit setting up has become a tad more awkward, and expensive on monthly payments.

Indeed

 

[gasgas]

I would phone your local Police Station ............... .......

Where's that? Timbuktoo?
It's a competition between banks, post offices and police stations to see which one can close most branches the quickest. Last time I phoned 'my local' Police station which was 13 miles away they didn't answer the phone. Someone outside was shooting at my windows, breaking the pvc frames but not the glass. No voicemail facility either, so I sent them a fax. (It was a few years ago before they started closing stations and this one has now disappeared)
"Dear Mr Policeman I am being shot at. You are not answering your phone. This is my address . . . . . If it is convenient please could you call round?"
As being shot at clearly isn't very interesting to the Police I didn't dial 999 because I had previously been told off by a Policeman for dialling 999 to report that my neighbour's house was being burgled. The Policeman said, I quote: "Burglaries are not much of a crime, we are not interested. You must not dial 999 because you see a burglary in progress".
Anyway after being shot at, it took EIGHT DAYS for a policeman to call round and look at my broken windows. He wasn't interested either. The next day a Police lady was shot. They had the culprit in the nick two hours later.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

All the good police are out doing their jobs the test are too into donuts and coffee, if a rozzer ever told me not to dial 999 I would report the useless lazy twat.

 

[yeoblade]

Where's that? Timbuktoo?
It's a competition between banks, post offices and police stations to see which one can close most branches the quickest. Last time I phoned 'my local' Police station which was 13 miles away they didn't answer the phone. Someone outside was shooting at my windows, breaking the pvc frames but not the glass. No voicemail facility either, so I sent them a fax. (It was a few years ago before they started closing stations and this one has now disappeared)
"Dear Mr Policeman I am being shot at. You are not answering your phone. This is my address . . . . . If it is convenient please could you call round?"
As being shot at clearly isn't very interesting to the Police I didn't dial 999 because I had previously been told off by a Policeman for dialling 999 to report that my neighbour's house was being burgled. The Policeman said, I quote: "Burglaries are not much of a crime, we are not interested. You must not dial 999 because you see a burglary in progress".
Anyway after being shot at, it took EIGHT DAYS for a policeman to call round and look at my broken windows. He wasn't interested either. The next day a Police lady was shot. They had the culprit in the nick two hours later.

Back to the subject, did everyone involved have a MOT ?

 

[gasgas]

Just saw this Trev. Cheaper option - come over two weeks before in your van and leave a week after, plenty of wild camping and services if in the know. It’d be cheaper than a charter flight TT and GP .

Absolutely. Go with your camper, leave it somewhere quiet, return home as a foot passenger if you have to return that is, then FP it back for the TT and stay. I used to live there so I know where all the fresh water supplies are and the toilets, where to stay overnight in quiet and where the best fish and chips is.
I have a spare set of IOM number plates in the garage . . . . . I wonder if I could change identities just before I board the ferry? Trouble is I can't remember what camper it was from - - oh yes, it was a Burstner. I would need some Burstner logos and stick them over the AutoSleeper ones. I wonder if any beady eyed Policeman would recognise the disguise?

In fact one year when I lived there and worked in the adjacent island (as the UK is known) I would fly each weekend. I found the cheapest way to get from UK to IOM was to book one flight from England (over the Isle of Man) to Belfast, walk across the tarmac to another planeand fly from Belfast fast to Douglas. Two flights are cheaper than one. Or were then . . . .

 

[gasgas]

Back to the subject, did everyone involved have a MOT ?

Back again to the subject I was surprised to have it confirmed recently that you (or at least a dealer) can tax a vehicle without insurance being in place. My granddaughter bought a car from a dealer, he didn't check insurance. My granddaughter had been assured by her mother that she (the mother) had bought and arranged insurance. She hadn't so granddaughter was driving around for three months uninsured when Mr Plod stopped her, impounded the car and of course she was left to find her way home and £1000 to release the car and buy one month's insurance. And a £300 fine and 6 points. And £1400 for a subsequent year's insurance. (Its a cheapest basic car).
Seems a bit daft to me that you can buy a vehicle from a dealer who can tax it on your behalf when you don't have insurance, but you can't tax it if you don't have an MOT. Which is more important?

 

[mistericeman]

Exactly, but as stated the Manx system (having our own legislation) shied away from the ‘garage on a nod’ system and empowered the vehicle owner - as it should be. IMO ‘of course’. Also saves money.

I'm happy to pay to have someone that is not only an extra pair of qualified eyes to look over my vehicles (even the ones that are mot exempt)
Once a year
In a facility where they have the ability to inspect parts of the vehicle easily that would be a struggle at home ...
And with equipment that eliminates my 'compensating' for proplems that have developed over time ....

Having seen the state of some tax exempt vehicles ...

I personally think the removal of mot requirement was a ridiculous action ...