New Highway Code rules.

Have seen many replies on this subject and overall am disappointed with feelings. Amazingly I had far more support for being transgender than a cyclist. Very much doubt that I will renew my membership when due!
 
Robmac said:
Culpability should be based on evidence. Nothing to do with anger.
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Yes evidence is the best thing to have, road rage behind the wheel is dangerous and there is lots of video evidence where motorists force cyclists into the gutter causing them to crash.
Look at the the comments on here that obviously have an obvious underlying quiet distain of cyclists. I'd like to hear the when they're driving.
Calling for registration numbers, paying vehicle excise duty and insurance . Motorists have no right to aim their cars and vans at cyclists just because the law does not require cyclists to have those things.
There are some dangerous road rage people behind the wheel. Maybe now they will get a jail term, a deserved 6 month ban, a fine and higher insurance premiums.
Robmac said:
We're going round in circles here. I agree anger against ANY road user should be punished. But you completely miss the point that drivers should be able to gather evidence against cyclists too.

I'll leave it at that!
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Motorists that get annoyed at cyclists minor bad behaviour ,that causes no damage or injury, is not enough to spend millions of pounds on arrests and prosecution. Yes cyclists that jump red lights should be punished BUT the only person that gets hurt if they make a mistake is the cyclist . Nobody else is injured or killed. How would spending money on implementing number plates and using police resources to follow it up help that situation ?

Jumping a red light in a car or van or a lorry is far more serious and it does cause injury and death. They also cause thousands of pounds worth of damage to lamp posts fences barriers and other road infrastructure . Cyclists cause none of that . Motorists should just refrain from getting annoyed .
By the way, Motorists do not own the road just because they pay tax each year to own a motor vehicle .
There is no such thing as "road tax" , that was abolished in 1937 . Vehicle excise duty is only a tax for owning a car / van. Yes the money collected is used on the repair of the roads ....but cyclists don't damage the roads either.

I will also leave it at that .........unless ........🙂
 
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Well now you have all got excited over bikes, lets talk about another thing I used to do before my hip problems, horse riding.
The new guidance is to pass horses at more than 2m and less than 10mph, that should wind up some on here.
 
Pedalman said:
Yes evidence is the best thing to have, road rage behind the wheel is dangerous and there is lots of video evidence where motorists force cyclists into the gutter causing them to crash.
Look at the the comments on here that obviously have an obvious underlying quiet distain of cyclists. I'd like to hear the when they're driving.
Calling for registration numbers, paying vehicle excise duty and insurance . Motorists have no right to aim their cars and vans at cyclists just because the law does not require cyclists to have those things.
There are some dangerous road rage people behind the wheel. Maybe now they will get a jail term, a deserved 6 month ban, a fine and higher insurance premiums.

Motorists that get annoyed at cyclists minor bad behaviour that causes no damage or injury is not enough to spend millions of pounds on arrests and prosecution. Yes cyclists that jump red lights should be punished BUT the only person that gets hurt if they make a mistake is the cyclist . Nobody else is injured or killed. How would spending money on implementing number plates and using police resources to follow it up help that situation ?

Jumping a red light in a car or van or a lorry is far more serious and it does cause injury and death. They also cause thousands of pounds worth of damage to lamp posts fences barriers and other road infrastructure . Cyclists cause none of that .

I will also leave it at that .........unless ........
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I won't bother to answer other than that I have no underlying quiet disdain of cyclists. I'm all for safety for cyclists, after all my kids and grandchildren are cyclists.
 
ScrappyDoo said:
Err.. when I took my driving lessons and test, it was in the Highway Code,?pedestrians always had right of way.
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No.

Rule 8​

At a junction. When crossing the road, look out for traffic turning into the road, especially from behind you. If you have started crossing and traffic wants to turn into the road, you have priority and they should give way (see Rule 170).
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From rule 170:

  • watch out for pedestrians crossing a road into which you are turning. If they have started to cross they have priority, so give way
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Robmac said:
Sorry but I don't think that is right (the bit about right of way).

I believe that pedestrians and cycles have right of way in SOME situations and quite rightly.
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Correct you can be done for J walking, ie suddenly turning and just walking onto a road, you are required to stop look and listen, had a uncle whom a lady just turned right onto a zebra crossing weighting of his new that day tiger cub, she got done and had to pay all costs.
 
Pedalman said:
Motorists have no right to aim their cars and vans at cyclists just because the law does not require cyclists to have those things.
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I don't think anyone is saying anything even remotely close to that.

Pedalman said:
Yes cyclists that jump red lights should be punished
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How do you propose we identify them?

Pedalman said:
BUT the only person that gets hurt if they make a mistake is the cyclist . Nobody else is injured or killed. How would spending money on implementing number plates and using police resources to follow it up help that situation ?
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What about when they damage a car but cycle off. Or the car that takes evasive action and hits something else? Maybe even another cyclist.... Still be the car's fault though I suppose :rolleyes:

Pedalman said:
Motorists should just refrain from getting annoyed .
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I can't ignore people breaking the law, but as long as you're happy with it....
 
Put in proper cycle presbyterian paths as in Germany, seems to work well, they did put some white line marked of bits at the side of the road near me but car drivers park or drive in it, so that was a waste of taxpayers monies.
 
Please don’t confuse the cycle terrorists with cyclists. They are a selfish group of people who think they are special. Like any pack animals the more of them the more dangerous they become. Cameras and illegal flashing lights just makes them worse. They never show the Highway Code sins they commit or the foul mouthed abuse they give others.
In my teens it looked like I would have a life in a wheelchair, not willing to be the cripple child I did everything to hide it. A bicycle made a good walking frame. It didn’t take long before I tried to ride it. Wow so much easier than walking. Freedom, I cycled everywhere.
It was suggested to me I should join a cycling club, so I started watching them and even followed them when they were out in a pack. Some of them drove cars, but still treated car drivers with contempt. Even forcing cars to pull over to let the pack through.
I’m not saying they are all bad, but the way they dress seems to effect them in some way. If they wanted to get fit heavy clothing would make more sense.
Discovering being able to cycle safely in Europe thrilled me. Sadly one evening in Denmark Anita and myself had a near death experience. Flaming cycle terrorists not stopping for a junction somehow managed to miss us. There was lots of Danish cussing as they realised the stupidity of their actions. Some did apologise, but we were very shook up.
 
trevskoda said:
If you did that on many roads here you would be driving over the ditch in a field, many roads are only 10ft wide and my wagon is 7ft wide at least, then there is the hedges growing out to contend with.View attachment 105557
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So, if you came up behind a cyclist on that narrow country road would you start blowing your horn and demanding the cyclist gets out of your way ?
What you should do is hang back a few seconds, ( as you would with a horse and rider) Im sure any decent cyclist who is riding on those roads will pull over into the next available farm gate and let you pass . Patience .
 
Pedalman said:
So, if you came up behind a cyclist on that narrow country road would you start blowing your horn and demanding the cyclist gets out of your way ?
What you should do is hang back a few seconds, ( as you would with a horse and rider) Im sure any decent cyclist who is riding on those roads will pull over into the next available farm gate and let you pass . Patience .
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I do as you say, but at late nights when an old flat cap drunk fart dressed in black appears at a blind corner where I have slowed down decides to ride into the grille, pick himself up and cycle off, or found laying in a ditch boking his guts up what chance do we have.
 
colinm said:
Well now you have all got excited over bikes, lets talk about another thing I used to do before my hip problems, horse riding.
The new guidance is to pass horses at more than 2m and less than 10mph, that should wind up some on here.
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Horses and riders should be given far more respect than even pedestrians and cyclists. If a horse is spooked the rider can fall from a great height , the horse might also be fatally injured if it bolts . Im not a horse rider BUT as a cyclist when I meet horses on the roads I slow right down to a walking pace, if approaching from behind I also slow right down but I talk to the rider , "hello, how are you doing , nice day , is it okay to sneak past" ? talking to the rider also lets the horse know a person is approaching behind them and the horse doesn't get panicked .
 
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Pedalman said:
Horses and riders should be given far more respect than even pedestrians and cyclists. If a horse is spooked the rider can fall from a great height , the horse might also be fatally injured if it bolts . Im not a horse rider BUT when as a cyclist I meet horses on the roads I slow right down to a walking pace, if approaching from behind I also slow right down but I talk to the rider , "hello, how are you doing , nice day , is it okay to sneak past" ? talking to the rider also lets the horse know a person is approaching behind them and the horse doesn't get panicked .
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My late g dad stopped at the side of the road in his new Toyota 1000 to let a young rider past, then the horse let fly with the back hoof and smashed the car wing in, her dad the farmer was not going to pay up until the police arrived and sorted the insurance out for us, in today's roads horses are best in fields for safty of all, maybe in the future we all will be back to them mind you.
 
The new one about this area the deliveroo guys nae lights up on pavements through red lights if these guys are using bikes for business purposes they should be held to some sort of mot scheme for lights and brakes and defiantly business insurance they seem to have some very high powered electric bikes.
 
was gonna read them all but got caught up in squirrelcooks re writing of forest gump😂. I only ever read the last three then but in lol
 
Wully said:
The new one about this area the deliveroo guys nae lights up on pavements through red lights if these guys are using bikes for business purposes they should be held to some sort of mot scheme for lights and brakes and defiantly business insurance they seem to have some very high powered electric bikes.
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I think Deliveroo delivery riders are insured, here is their website.

Deliveroo | The Deliveroo Riders Website

riders.deliveroo.co.uk riders.deliveroo.co.uk
 
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