New Highway Code rules.

Pedalman said:
When cycling in daylight I have worn high viz clothing, high intensity flashing lights front and back,( I'm sure you've seen them ) and I was still hit twice by A- hole motorists.
So I wear a camera now ( just like cars have dash cams) and I will send every close pass to the police .
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I have to say I really dont like those flashing lights some cyclists use. I find them really distracting and disorientating as a motorist. Maybe its just me.
 
barryd said:
I have to say I really dont like those flashing lights some cyclists use. I find them really distracting and disorientating as a motorist. Maybe its just me.
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Me to Barry, but to be fair they are more eye catching, and that’s the most important thing. To many cyclists die on our roads, anything that helps make them safe is ok by me.
 
Hello folks. I’m a Car driver, van driver, Motorhome driver, walker and cyclist. I cycle miles and part of these new rules I also have mixed feelings about as they can be misunderstood and look favourably towards cyclist and pedestrians but it’s really about awareness and consideration even towards the motorists. It’s to keep us all safe. My daily issue cycling which I have are, close passing and cutting my forward direction off when a car turns left! It really does happen.
The best thing about this post is that we’re all reading it and discussing it which means we’re all becoming more aware of fellow road users and hopefully this will make us all look out for each other. Europe is my absolute favourite place to take Elvis our Motorhome and my bike. They really are more generous to all tarmac users over there. Stay safe people.
 
Pedalman said:
When cycling in daylight I have worn high viz clothing, high intensity flashing lights front and back,( I'm sure you've seen them ) and I was still hit twice by A- hole motorists.
So I wear a camera now ( just like cars have dash cams) and I will send every close pass to the police .
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Unfortunately any cyclists behaving dangerously cannot be identified from dashcam footage as they don't have a registration number.
 
The primary concern here, must be safety for cyclists and pedestrians.
My mate was killed on the Erskine Bridge by a motorist who drove with no concern for my mates safety. He got 6 months and was released after 8 weeks, and was banned for 3 years. Life is cheap.
I don’t own a bike, I just reckon that to many drivers don’t like cyclists, and that state of mind can cause fatalities.
 
Robmac said:
Just to clarify though, the suggestion was for riders to wear a high vis belt with the registration number on it rather than a plate fixed to the bike. My post was about making the registration visible as it is on other motor vehicles.
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Registration numbers on cars does not top motorists from breaking the law.
 
Robmac said:
Unfortunately any cyclists behaving dangerously cannot be identified from dashcam footage as they don't have a registration number.
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How can cyclist behave dangerously, if they crash they inevitably only hurt themselves.
Three pedestrians were killed by cyclists in 2017 it didn't say who was to blame or if the pedestrian stepped out in front of the cyclist .
If cyclists killed as many people as motorists do or caused as much damage something would need to be done , but they don't.
Who do motorists kill ? Themselves, other motorists, motorcyclists, pedal cyclists , and pedestrians NO WONDER MOTORISTS NEED INSURANCE.
 
Pedalman said:
How can cyclist behave dangerously, if they crash they inevitably only hurt themselves.
Three pedestrians were killed by cyclists in 2017 it didn't say who was to blame or if the pedestrian stepped out in front of the cyclist .
If cyclists killed as many people as motorists do or caused as much damage something would need to be done , but they don't.
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If you reckon that cyclists don't behave dangerously I think you must be driving around in blinkers!

What possible harm would it do to introduce registrations?
 
Fisherman said:
Sorry Pudsey, but motorised vehicles come with number plates, and yet I see stupid and dangerous drivers most journeys. It doesn't seem to stop them.
And before you post that we are at least accountable due to our plates I am well aware of that.
But cyclists rarely cause fatalities, whereas they are killed on our roads every day, by people driving dangerously with number plates.
What next insurance being mandatory for cyclists. Cyclists having to pass a test before being allowed on the road, surely not.
With global warming we should be trying to encourage people to use their bikes, not making it more difficult.
Just my thoughts, and they are worth nothing.
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I agree many car/van drivers don't give space for cyclists, but from what I see when out is about 80% don't have a clue about their own safety or any highway code rules, and how would we register bikes as almost all here are kiddies riding them from about 4 years of age up to teenagers.
 
Robmac said:
Culpability can only be based on evidence.

I think you are twisting words somewhat.
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Life threatening anger towards cyclists needs to be punished , and since bike cameras have become as popular as Dash Cams, drivers are being punished with evidence.
 
Pedalman said:
Anger towards cyclists needs to be punished , and since bike cameras have become as popular as Dash Cams drivers are being punished with evidence.
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We're going round in circles here. I agree anger against ANY road user should be punished. But you completely miss the point that drivers should be able to gather evidence against cyclists too.

I'll leave it at that!
 
Seems to be a lot worse in England than here, though many of the bikes are in housing estates, not many kiddies take them into towns or main roads.
 
colinm said:
That's absolutely fine under the new highway code, as it states.
"“Where you are able to do so, you should open the door using your hand on the opposite side to the door you are opening; for example, use your left hand to open a door on your right-hand side."

Anyway, if your touch screen is in middle of car it will be difficult to not obey that. 😝
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If you are overtaking a cyclist you should give them five feet clearance, so when a cyclist overtakes you and he too gives you five feet clearance there would not be a problem when you open the door
 
big tom said:
If you are overtaking a cyclist you should give them five feet clearance, so when a cyclist overtakes you and he too gives you five feet clearance there would not be a problem when you open the door
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If you did that on many roads here you would be driving over the ditch in a field, many roads are only 10ft wide and my wagon is 7ft wide at least, then there is the hedges growing out to contend with.
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I believe the 5 foot space for a cyclist is to stop you running over his head if he falls over. If your car can fall over on a level road the cyclist should give you 5 foot clearance too.
As a cyclist I do give 3 foot clearance, if I can, as careless drivers have opened doors on me often enough. However the drivers behind who intend to pass me with one foot clearance often stop me from having the room to do so!
When I was 12 a lorry knocked my arm off my handlebars on a slight bend as his trailer crabbed in on a curve. 18" at the front minus 1" by the back. I am sure he did not know he hit me. It felt like he did not care.
Cyclists are vulnerable! You drivers who's pride expects equivalence from cyclists do not understand the roads.
 
Robmac said:
I don't fully understand the new rules but it looks like cyclists and pedestrians will be given priority in certain situations (such as cyclists undertaking near corners and pedestrians crossing the road).

I'm willing to be stood corrected, but it seems at first glance an ideal opportunity for a certain element of society to be looking at making a lot of money out of motorists insurance policies.
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Err.. when I took my driving lessons and test, it was in the Highway Code,?pedestrians always had right of way. Cyclists is a new matter given there’s so many taking up the sport. Here in Spain and Portugal, you must give them a huge wide berth when overtaking.
 
ScrappyDoo said:
Err.. when I took my driving lessons and test, it was in the Highway Code,?pedestrians always had right of way. Cyclists is a new matter given there’s so many taking up the sport. Here in Spain and Portugal, you must give them a huge wide berth when overtaking.
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Sorry but I don't think that is right (the bit about right of way).

I believe that pedestrians and cycles have right of way in SOME situations and quite rightly.
 
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