Hank the Tanks Dodgy battery and solar system

Don't know if you read the whole thread Bill but you are preaching to the converted. I agree, Lithium is the way to go, I have no doubt about that but by your own admission in your post you say "Right now all of the large manufacturers are trying to rip folk off with overpriced lithium systems as options". The difference for me is shelling out "right now" the neck end of £3k or £120 to maybe (for now) improve a current system to make it viable for next years touring. I questioned it because I had time to think. Do I need an all singing all dancing lithium system "right now". I don't really. We weren't far off having enough power last year and did indeed manage several weeks in Salcombe off grid without moving the van. Its not childs play for me. I can't fit any of this stuff myself if for no other reason than I can't get up on the roof of the van for a kick off.

There is already a good controller and panel in place, its just not quite good enough. Yet. Im happy though to change the controller providing it does what the current one does which also charges the engine battery and as long as down the line when or if I do go Lithium its not redundant. Sadly there is no middle ground. You can't say, ill just have a medium priced Lithium and solar system please and get some dodgy local bloke in a shed to do it for £30 an hour. If I am getting it done I want the best system and the best people to fit it but I just don't think I need it yet.
I don’t know where the 3k is coming from Barry.

2 X 100ah lithium with heaters and blutooth BMS £800
Additional 120w solar panel and cabling etc. £70
Victron MPPT 100/20 £65
Victron 20 amp mains charger £115
Victron 30 amp b2b. ( optional) £160
Leisure battery to vehicle battery charger £85
Ancillary equipment. £50
Total £1345

I did not mean for you to go up on the roof and fit your own solar Barry, but fitting an additional panel is a very simple process.
As much as I would recommend fitting the best you can afford as above there are cheaper viable options, but I just prefer victron gear. And the B2B is optional for you as you don’t have a smart alternator.
As for someone to fit this gear and supply it for you, look no further Barry. David is most certainly your man. I know David and I trust him completely.
And sorry Barry I have not read the whole thread.

My point was more in surprise that there is really not much to discuss here, you either do it or you don’t Barry. But whatever you do all the best Barry. (y)
 
I don’t know where the 3k is coming from Barry.

2 X 100ah lithium with heaters and blutooth BMS £800
Additional 120w solar panel and cabling etc. £70
Victron MPPT 100/20 £65
Victron 20 amp mains charger £115
Victron 30 amp b2b. ( optional) £160
Leisure battery to vehicle battery charger £85
Ancillary equipment. £50
Total £1345

I did not mean for you to go up on the roof and fit your own solar Barry, but fitting an additional panel is a very simple process.
As much as I would recommend fitting the best you can afford as above there are cheaper viable options, but I just prefer victron gear. And the B2B is optional for you as you don’t have a smart alternator.
As for someone to fit this gear and supply it for you, look no further Barry. David is most certainly your man. I know David and I trust him completely.
And sorry Barry I have not read the whole thread.

My point was more in surprise that there is really not much to discuss here, you either do it or you don’t Barry. But whatever you do all the best Barry. (y)

David has packed in I believe Bill and I had quotes from VanBitz and Off Grid solutions. The nearly £3k quote from Vanbitz wasnt even Lithium! It was lead carbon! The Off Grid Solutions quote was just short of £3k from memory but it was the best stuff. A few extra bits from memory and 2 x Victron panels but also a considerable labour charge. I was about to push the button on it, in fact I was all for it while we were away but having had time to think I was exploring the option of just improving what we have for a small fraction of the cost myself. Some questioned in this thread whether it was overkill for us, hence the possible change of direction.
 
I don’t know where the 3k is coming from Barry.

2 X 100ah lithium with heaters and blutooth BMS £800
Additional 120w solar panel and cabling etc. £70
Victron MPPT 100/20 £65
Victron 20 amp mains charger £115
Victron 30 amp b2b. ( optional) £160
Leisure battery to vehicle battery charger £85
Ancillary equipment. £50
Total £1345

I did not mean for you to go up on the roof and fit your own solar Barry, but fitting an additional panel is a very simple process.
As much as I would recommend fitting the best you can afford as above there are cheaper viable options, but I just prefer victron gear. And the B2B is optional for you as you don’t have a smart alternator.
As for someone to fit this gear and supply it for you, look no further Barry. David is most certainly your man. I know David and I trust him completely.
And sorry Barry I have not read the whole thread.

My point was more in surprise that there is really not much to discuss here, you either do it or you don’t Barry. But whatever you do all the best Barry. (y)
You're wasting your time Bill, go find a wall to bang your head on I gave him loads of info but his brain is alcohol baked and he's forgot.
 
You're wasting your time Bill, go find a wall to bang your head on I gave him loads of info but his brain is alcohol baked and he's forgot.

Scoff all you like! When I have fettled it myself for the price of a tank of Diesel who will have the last laugh huh? You all laughed at the hose pipe thread and Cava Cork solution didnt you? Not laughing now eh?
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Just think how much it enriches your lives my super long threads? What would you rather be doing? Getting dragged out shopping with your missus or contributing to a super duper helpful thread like this? Stop complaining, I'm doing you a favour. No, don't thank me.
 
Just think how much it enriches your lives my super long threads? What would you rather be doing? Getting dragged out shopping with your missus or contributing to a super duper helpful thread like this? Stop complaining, I'm doing you a favour. No, don't thank me.
Oh feck, you still wittering on like a old washer woman?
 
Just think how much it enriches your lives my super long threads? What would you rather be doing? Getting dragged out shopping with your missus or contributing to a super duper helpful thread like this? Stop complaining, I'm doing you a favour. No, don't thank me.
I would rather go shopping with my wife, then have my molars extracted without anaesthetic than read through this thread Barry. It reminds me of the magic roundabout, but once on this roundabout there is no way off. :)
 

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