CAMPERBANNED NC500’s fresh ban NEWS

[Wooie1958]

Completely self-inflicted and the reason why we stopped going up to Scotland.

 

[Rolyan57]

I think part of the problem is that some comments clearly presuppose that there’s not much of a problem and if there is, it’s not us.

It’s a shame we can’t find out exactly what’s happened, to what extent, caused by who. Plus the complaints.

I’m clearly not saying it is us, or that the majority should be punished. I’m merely pointing out that we don’t know the problem. It might not be us but there again it might.

Many of us will remember how Helmsley was lost. When it happened the usual response was “it’s not us, it’s not that bad, it might be cars” etc. Yet those of us there who saw it know that it was indeed motorhomers and campervanners. They behaved really badly.

So sometimes, it is us.

 

[trevskoda]

For carparks cameras are the way for sure, those wilding and being naughty will never be caught, they distroy the pleasure for others, sad but true.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

I think part of the problem is that some comments clearly presuppose that there’s not much of a problem and if there is, it’s not us.

It’s a shame we can’t find out exactly what’s happened, to what extent, caused by who. Plus the complaints.

I’m clearly not saying it is us, or that the majority should be punished. I’m merely pointing out that we don’t know the problem. It might not be us but there again it might.

Many of us will remember how Helmsley was lost. When it happened the usual response was “it’s not us, it’s not that bad, it might be cars” etc. Yet those of us there who saw it know that it was indeed motorhomers and campervanners. They behaved really badly.

So sometimes, it is us.

Yup.

They have similar problems in Spain and other tourist destinations that are very popular with motorhomers (never been, but it's been discussed often in here and elsewhere).

The obvious answer would be to provide a lot more facilities for visitors and police them properly.

Good luck with that happening!

 

[RichardHelen262]

The real problem isn’t the amount of motorhomes,
The biggest problem is the lack of facilities for the motorhomes

 

[Alf]

I always need to empty mine at home after a trip, and never had a problem emptying it in the toilet at home

Yes but you will be on a mains drain most remote areas are on septic tanks

 

[colinm]

Yes but you will be on a mains drain most remote areas are on septic tanks

With the correct toilet fluid this isn't a problem.

 

[Rolyan57]

The real problem isn’t the amount of motorhomes,
The biggest problem is the lack of facilities for the motorhomes

The biggest problem is the disgusting, irresponsible and entitled behaviour by some motorhomers, who have no moral standards and no social conscience.

That’s it. That’s the cause 100%. If there are no facilities, you book into somewhere where there is.

I’m really lucky that I had wonderful parents who brought me up correctly, with morals and standards. There is no excuse or justification for this behaviour if/when it happens.

 

[Rolyan57]

Yup.

They have similar problems in Spain and other tourist destinations that are very popular with motorhomers (never been, but it's been discussed often in here and elsewhere).

The obvious answer would be to provide a lot more facilities for visitors and police them properly.

Good luck with that happening!

Yes, I was reading one the other day about Spain. Can’t remember where, but as usual they’ve ignored the rules on maximum numbers and maximum night stays, in their droves. Dozens and dozens.

I was only thinking last week that I can’t think of another sport/hobby/group that has so many who are so willing to knowingly break rules, with complete disregard. We’ve all seen it in here and elsewhere, with them saying “I know it’s not allowed to overnight, but I do”, “I know the sign says don’t empty cassettes but I do”, “I know it’s max 5, but I stay whatever”, “”I know it’s a maximum 2 nights, but I stay a week”, “they haven’t provided bins, hence the rubbish”, “they haven’t provided elsan, so I’ll pop into the woods” etc etc etc.

While I’m sure it’s probably a minority, I can’t think of any other group that is quite so willing to knowingly break the rules, or social norms, without any consideration for the harm its doing, as the latest generation of motorhomers.

 

[trevskoda]

The real problem isn’t the amount of motorhomes,
The biggest problem is the lack of facilities for the motorhomes

They will just say go to a campsite.

 

[gasgas]

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The decision followed complaints from locals about waste dumping and anti-social behaviour.

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Does 'anti-social behaviour' include using the new 'motorhome innovation award, 2025'? In case you haven't seen it some manufacturers are installing a poo box which used to be a Thetford Cassette. It is environmentally friendly of course, because it uses no water. (and totally unconnected of course, costs the motorhome converter less than a Cassette toilet).
What you do is this: you do your business into a plastic bag which is designed to fit into the sooperdooper toilet bowl. You then dispose of the filled bag into 'your normal refuse bin' at home which is collected every fortnight. Apparently you have been carrying these filled bags around with you for a couple of weeks in one of your cupboards in the motorhome. So, back home the bag contents is sitting there in a black bin fizzing away for two weeks like an exploding bottle of pop. The refuse disposal officers come along and hitch the bin to the truck which then compresses the contents of the inflated bag of poo and it explodes, coating the operatives. They report it to the council who issue you with a fine and ban you from doing it again.
Or, you have disposed of the bag in the camp site dumpster. It fizzes away for a week or two and someone throws a broken awning pole or folding camp chair on top, bursting the bag. Your fellow camper gets covered in it and runs off to the showers where the remains goes down the plug hole, or rather doesn't, and blocks the drain. The poor chap then goes to reception, who then go round the site to find the culprit with the 'motorhome innovation of the year' award, fine them £100 and throw them off the site. Word gets around other camp sites who then ban that make of motorhome from their sites.
Or, as you are away from a site and away from home you stop at a supermarket and stuff (very carefully) your week's collection of filled bags into the supermarket rubbish bin near the entrance.
More ammo for the anti-motorhoming community.

That idea is even worse (which I thought was impossible) than the Ford wet belt. (a rubber belt runs in the engine oil of a Ford. 20,000 miles later if you are lucky it only costs £2000 to replace the belt if there is no engine damage from rubber fragments, or if you leave it a bit longer, £xxxxxx for a new engine).

 

[guerdeval]

Does 'anti-social behaviour' include using the new 'motorhome innovation award, 2025'? In case you haven't seen it some manufacturers are installing a poo box which used to be a Thetford Cassette. It is environmentally friendly of course, because it uses no water. (and totally unconnected of course, costs the motorhome converter less than a Cassette toilet).
What you do is this: you do your business into a plastic bag which is designed to fit into the sooperdooper toilet bowl. You then dispose of the filled bag into 'your normal refuse bin' at home which is collected every fortnight. Apparently you have been carrying these filled bags around with you for a couple of weeks in one of your cupboards in the motorhome. So, back home the bag contents is sitting there in a black bin fizzing away for two weeks like an exploding bottle of pop. The refuse disposal officers come along and hitch the bin to the truck which then compresses the contents of the inflated bag of poo and it explodes, coating the operatives. They report it to the council who issue you with a fine and ban you from doing it again.
Or, you have disposed of the bag in the camp site dumpster. It fizzes away for a week or two and someone throws a broken awning pole or folding camp chair on top, bursting the bag. Your fellow camper gets covered in it and runs off to the showers where the remains goes down the plug hole, or rather doesn't, and blocks the drain. The poor chap then goes to reception, who then go round the site to find the culprit with the 'motorhome innovation of the year' award, fine them £100 and throw them off the site. Word gets around other camp sites who then ban that make of motorhome from their sites.
Or, as you are away from a site and away from home you stop at a supermarket and stuff (very carefully) your week's collection of filled bags into the supermarket rubbish bin near the entrance.
More ammo for the anti-motorhoming community.

That idea is even worse (which I thought was impossible) than the Ford wet belt. (a rubber belt runs in the engine oil of a Ford. 20,000 miles later if you are lucky it only costs £2000 to replace the belt if there is no engine damage from rubber fragments, or if you leave it a bit longer, £xxxxxx for a new engine).

A friend had one installed in her new build,off grid,all singing van ,cost thousands to build on a crafter and I don’t think she used it once.

 

[TrevandJenny]

Well this will get the scribes writing. Is the problem regarding loo disposal where it goes? Well it is! Now forget people’s rights, they can, they cannot, they will, they won’t. Not me, wos them. It all has to be disposed of in a responsible manner.
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A lot of respondents state facilities need to be provided, Yes a great idea, By whom? At what cost, Contributions by campers maybe? Doubtful, Imagine a Scottish council building a toilet waste facility, unmanned with an honesty box or pay point, the cost to build will be tens of thousands,
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I make this point by experience, we visit Scotland annually, we use sites, wild camp as well as contributing into honestly boxes at some brilliant welcoming seaside spots we know, At most of these spots a notice advises of the box.
Call me cynical if you wish, last time at one of our favourite east coast spots we were next to the harbour gate where said box was, how many popped a donation to said box, very few, Maybe the same amount who would happily pay to dispose of their black waste.
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I’m all for freedom to roam camp overnight in whatever box on wheels we have for as long as we want, however services we are requesting will only be supplied if everyone, I mean everyone stops having deep pockets and comes up with suggestions to Scottish authorities. Let’s face it we’re in a period now where the most want the very best for the cheapest price. We need to use the facilities available, we’re all guilty at some stage of buying the cheapest provisions prior to leaving home, zooming up north and not buying much at all, unless we show as one the motorhome/van community will support the local area, we’re still stuck with a bad repore.
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A tale I recall, Whilst in the local post office on the Isle of Sky a motorhomer, entered and purchased a postcard and stamp, then innocently said, I have had a wonderful week on your island time to go home but need to send a card, it’s the only thing I needed to purchase whilst here.
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Enough said !!!

 

[trevskoda]

Does 'anti-social behaviour' include using the new 'motorhome innovation award, 2025'? In case you haven't seen it some manufacturers are installing a poo box which used to be a Thetford Cassette. It is environmentally friendly of course, because it uses no water. (and totally unconnected of course, costs the motorhome converter less than a Cassette toilet).
What you do is this: you do your business into a plastic bag which is designed to fit into the sooperdooper toilet bowl. You then dispose of the filled bag into 'your normal refuse bin' at home which is collected every fortnight. Apparently you have been carrying these filled bags around with you for a couple of weeks in one of your cupboards in the motorhome. So, back home the bag contents is sitting there in a black bin fizzing away for two weeks like an exploding bottle of pop. The refuse disposal officers come along and hitch the bin to the truck which then compresses the contents of the inflated bag of poo and it explodes, coating the operatives. They report it to the council who issue you with a fine and ban you from doing it again.
Or, you have disposed of the bag in the camp site dumpster. It fizzes away for a week or two and someone throws a broken awning pole or folding camp chair on top, bursting the bag. Your fellow camper gets covered in it and runs off to the showers where the remains goes down the plug hole, or rather doesn't, and blocks the drain. The poor chap then goes to reception, who then go round the site to find the culprit with the 'motorhome innovation of the year' award, fine them £100 and throw them off the site. Word gets around other camp sites who then ban that make of motorhome from their sites.
Or, as you are away from a site and away from home you stop at a supermarket and stuff (very carefully) your week's collection of filled bags into the supermarket rubbish bin near the entrance.
More ammo for the anti-motorhoming community.

That idea is even worse (which I thought was impossible) than the Ford wet belt. (a rubber belt runs in the engine oil of a Ford. 20,000 miles later if you are lucky it only costs £2000 to replace the belt if there is no engine damage from rubber fragments, or if you leave it a bit longer, £xxxxxx for a new engine).

You could always post the full poo bags to a leader in the east as he loves stiring the sh one t.

 

[colinm]

A tale I recall, Whilst in the local post office on the Isle of Sky a motorhomer, entered and purchased a postcard and stamp, then innocently said, I have had a wonderful week on your island time to go home but need to send a card, it’s the only thing I needed to purchase whilst here.
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Enough said !!!

Hear that bull quoted quite often, I expect some even believe it! myself I found Skye to be rip off central 40 years ago, doubt it has improved since

 

[Glynno]

CAMPERBANNED NC500’s fresh ban on motorhomes & campervans edges closer as council gives major update
Elected members said they have been 'bombarded' by complaints
Mike Merritt The Scottish Sun
Published: 17:07, 17 Feb 2025Updated: 17:07, 17 Feb 2025
Councillors have today decided to move to impose an overnight ban on campervans using council car parks along the NC500 route.

The decision followed complaints from locals about waste dumping and anti-social behaviour.

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Highland Council's Sutherland County Committee unanimously agreed to recommend the ban at two key car parks where overnight stays are currently permitted.

At present, these car parks, located in Durness and Golspie on the NC500 route, allow campervans to stay overnight for £10 per night.

Visitors are currently restricted to a single night's stay and are prohibited from returning within 72 hours.

While daytime parking would remain unaffected, the council's parking enforcement team would begin policing overnight stays.

Full article:

NC500's ban on motorhomes & campervans edges close as council gives major update

Councillors have today decided to move to impose an overnight ban on campervans using council car parks along the NC500 route. The decision followed complaints from locals about waste dumping and a…

www.thescottishsun.co.uk

Its still the very minor minority that wrecks life for the others out there.

 

[Glynno]

You could always post the full poo bags tyo Putin as he loves stiring the sh one t.

Thats a Trump card you play.

 

[mistericeman]

The biggest problem is the disgusting, irresponsible and entitled behaviour by some motorhomers, who have no moral standards and no social conscience.

That’s it. That’s the cause 100%. If there are no facilities, you book into somewhere where there is.

I’m really lucky that I had wonderful parents who brought me up correctly, with morals and standards. There is no excuse or justification for this behaviour if/when it happens.

Couldn't agree more ......

I've even been shocked at some motorhome owners behaviour ON sites let alone when they are let off the lead ....

We must be 3 or so generations in of feral people breeding feral children ...

Sadly we live in a world of few if any consequences for people that transgress as its far easier to punish those that DO behave .

 

[Nabsim]

Its still the very minor minority that wrecks life for the others out there.

But that's the same for everything so we should all be used to it, it isn't just things connected to motorhomes

 

[Alf]

With the correct toilet fluid this isn't a problem.

I was referring to blocking the pipe with a quick overload