Battery problem

[Deleted member 12051]

jump lead clamps are rather large, battery charger ones are a lot smaller and easier to get into confined spaces.... should be possible to get a charger on there

Never thought of just putting my small battery charger on - good call. Leisure batteries will be disconnected, charged and tested on disconnecting today. when I can get someone to test for me. I have no idea how to use a tester

If it was me I would take the main battery of the vehicle and fully charge it up while it is off reroute the leads( take some photo, so you know what goes where).
Once fully charged up. you can get the vehicle restarted. As others have said check out the leisure battery,s. The water heater should be fused check to see if it has tripped.

If it was me I would take the main battery of the vehicle and fully charge it up while it is off reroute the leads( take some photo, so you know what goes where).
Once fully charged up. you can get the vehicle restarted. As others have said check out the leisure battery,s. The water heater should be fused check to see if it has tripped.

hi Macker. No the fuse didn’t trip. As for rerouting I’ll look to see if there’s any give on these wires to take them away from the top of it. I couldn’t get them to move when I was trying to connect the jump clip. As previous reply I have smaller clips to affix to put on. I’ll try this first which may give me room to do this. If not it’ll be your suggestion to go for.

 

[Deleted member 12051]

May I just thank all of you for your lovely assistance trying to help me with this dilemma xx

 

[molly 2]

Sounds like you need a hands on expert ,can you find a mobile sparky or contact ,aanda caravans, they are battery charger experts and do an exchange unit service .but are in north wales.could be anything from a burnt out charger to burnt wire or fuse holder . if you connect a battery charger as suggested disconnect the neg post as it could power whatever is burning just be aware of sparks when reconnecting the neg

 

[Deleted member 12051]

Sounds like you need a hands on expert ,can you find a mobile sparky or contact ,aanda caravans, they are battery charger experts and do an exchange unit service .but are in north wales.could be anything from a burnt out charger to burnt wire or fuse holder .

My neighbour has just sent me a large battery charger and it apparently can jump it too. also a multi meter - Yes dead technical so much so he said he would talk Me through it on FaceTime ( I get a WiFi signal in garden) in a couple of days giving me time to charge all leisure batteries to eliminate bad/good.
Once again thank you for your input as well

 

[Deleted member 12051]

Sounds like you need a hands on expert ,can you find a mobile sparky or contact ,aanda caravans, they are battery charger experts and do an exchange unit service .but are in north wales.could be anything from a burnt out charger to burnt wire or fuse holder . if you connect a battery charger as suggested disconnect the neg post as it could power whatever is burning just be aware of sparks when reconnecting the neg

Thank you, I’m taking everyone’s comments on board

 

[mistericeman]

My betting is you've one bad battery at least out of your leisure set...
I have the same problem jump lead wise with our Ducato....
Positive is right under the wing/bulkhead (and its a pain because it has a multiple connector plate too)

I bought one of these and a suitable positive lead to connect it...

Longacre Battery Jumper Posts

Longacre battery jumper posts are an easy, innovative addition to any battery wiring circuit on cars where the battery is hidden away under the seat/in the boot etc, or where access is really quite tight. Available in positive or negative options (colour coded caps included), they can be easily...

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I've still not got around to fitting it though lol.

As above I'd get a battery charger on the starter battery THEN have a check of your leisure ones.

 

[FULL TIMER]

I will just mention if the boiler is a truma ultrastore the 240v fuse will not normally blow in your situation, there is a thermal cut out on the side of the boiler this will/ should reset its self once the mains has been switched off and everything has cooled down it is unlikely to have caused any damage to the boiler element. looking at your picture of the battery it looks like there is a metal part coming down off the positive terminal if you follow that back I'm almost certain it will be directly connected to the positive terminal maybe you could connect the jump lead to that.

 

[Deleted member 12051]

My betting is you've one bad battery at least out of your leisure set...
I have the same problem jump lead wise with our Ducato....
Positive is right under the wing/bulkhead (and its a pain because it has a multiple connector plate too)

I bought one of these and a suitable positive lead to connect it...

Longacre Battery Jumper Posts

Longacre battery jumper posts are an easy, innovative addition to any battery wiring circuit on cars where the battery is hidden away under the seat/in the boot etc, or where access is really quite tight. Available in positive or negative options (colour coded caps included), they can be easily...

www.demon-tweeks.com

I've still not got around to fitting it though lol.

As above I'd get a battery charger on the starter battery THEN have a check of your leisure ones.

Hi mistericeman. That sounds great. Just to let you know my starter battery has been on charge and I have just fired the motor up and wallah (not sure how you spell that) it has turned over. I will check it again in morning to eliminate that one from the other 3. Battery 1 on charge as we speak. Battery 2 was also put on charge for about 15 mins then the horrid smell came back again - binning that one. lastly no 3 on charge, no smell at present. I sincerely hope I can retain 2 of 3.
I will update everyone after new one ordered. Then place everything in situ. Thereafter, check boiler and fingers crossed. Many thanks.

 

[Deleted member 12051]

I will just mention if the boiler is a truma ultrastore the 240v fuse will not normally blow in your situation, there is a thermal cut out on the side of the boiler this will/ should reset its self once the mains has been switched off and everything has cooled down it is unlikely to have caused any damage to the boiler element. looking at your picture of the battery it looks like there is a metal part coming down off the positive terminal if you follow that back I'm almost certain it will be directly connected to the positive terminal maybe you could connect the jump lead to that.

Full timer I’ll check in morning about model and if it has a thermal cut out not forgetting the metal part for future reference. As it is I have engine battery going. Checking again in morning to see if it turns over. Many thanks

 

[mistericeman]

Hi mistericeman. That sounds great. Just to let you know my starter battery has been on charge and I have just fired the motor up and wallah (not sure how you spell that) it has turned over. I will check it again in morning to eliminate that one from the other 3. Battery 1 on charge as we speak. Battery 2 was also put on charge for about 15 mins then the horrid smell came back again - binning that one. lastly no 3 on charge, no smell at present. I sincerely hope I can retain 2 of 3.
I will update everyone after new one ordered. Then place everything in situ. Thereafter, check boiler and fingers crossed. Many thanks.

Sounds promising.... Hopefully things work out and you've just got one duff battery.

AND many thanks for updating us...

 

[Robmac]

AND many thanks for updating us...

I thought that too. So often neglected!

 

[Canalsman]

Replacing one out of three leisure batteries is not ideal.

The remaining two older batteries will have different electrical characteristics to the new one. The outcome may be that the bank of batteries does not charge to its full potential.

There is also a possibility the other two batteries have been damaged by the failure of the third.

I would suggest there are two options.

If the remaining two batteries have sufficient capacity to meet your needs then just use those until they need replacing. Take care to insulate and make safe the connections to the failed battery.

If you require the capacity that three batteries provide I recommend that you buy three new batteries.

Don't forget that Alpha Batteries provide a discount to members.

 

[Deleted member 12051]

Hi all. 2 out of 3 batteries goosed. Other one is holding its charge. Replacements arriving tomorrow. Will place in situ once they have arrived. One question before the boiler is tackled. Would the inverter have been affected?

 

[wildebus]

The inverter would usually have cut out when the voltage dropped to say under 11V (exact value depends on settings and model) so while that voltage is not good for the batteries, it would not usually be terminal for them). Inverter should not be affected.

 

[in h]

and wallah (not sure how you spell that) it has turned over.

I think the word you are after is "voila"

 

[Deleted member 12051]

“Voila” I sincerely hope so. I can’t thank everyone so much once again. I love this site for help and explaining in laymen’s terms to those that don’t have technical knowledge Er, like me. But hey, I’ve got this far with instructions from you kind people. Update again after the weekend. Regards Patricia

 

[Deleted member 12051]

Batteries not arrived although next day delivery was Thursday. 2 phone calls and 2 emails - no reply to either. Well, testing on hold until arrival of these. Keeping everyone in the loop until then. Stay safe guys and gals.

 

[Robmac]

Batteries not arrived although next day delivery was Thursday. 2 phone calls and 2 emails - no reply to either. Well, testing on hold until arrival of these. Keeping everyone in the loop until then. Stay safe guys and gals.

I've been getting deliveries but usually a couple of days later than advertised.

I think a lot of companies are overwhelmed because everybody is doing 'those little jobs they have been meaning to do' at the moment. Have you checked their website for a Coronavirus statement?

 

[Deleted member 12051]

I've been getting deliveries but usually a couple of days later than advertised.

I think a lot of companies are overwhelmed because everybody is doing 'those little jobs they have been meaning to do' at the moment. Have you checked their website for a Coronavirus statement?

Thanks for that. I understand about the deliveries. Me being impetuous to get on with the job doesn’t help Lol!

 

[ricc]

all the local retail shops have shut so they get the 85%of staff wages paid by taxpayer, nobody is driving to them anyway, so those online outlets that are open are a tad busy, as are the couriers.