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I camp where & when I like, whether it's free or I have to pay that's up to me. What I won't do is pay extortionate fees, I have an absolute max of £10 but in reality a fiver is about all I would think about paying. I go to a few of the motorhomes shows (often to meet up with friends we have made during our travels), you are pretty much stuck with paying what ever they are charging or you don't go.
We have stopped on aires in France, Germany, Spain, Portugal & Belgium many of these were free but the odd ones do charge. Can these 'official' aires be classed as wildcamping many are free but some are more organized than some campsites.
We have stopped on aires in France, Germany, Spain, Portugal & Belgium many of these were free but the odd ones do charge. Can these 'official' aires be classed as wildcamping
many are free but some are more organized than some campsites.
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Hello Edbanger, I thought you had stormed off in the huff and were not coming back.
My handbrake set up is a lot more complicated than a tranny I am afraid. Needs a tweak and will be retested tomorrow and pass the MOT. It has done 5,000 miles in the last year, would have been more but life (death actually) gets in the way.
When are you actually going to post something useful on here (if ever). I asked you to put a bit of background in about yourself as you have given no information on yourself at all, you are not prepared to say what wilding you have done either. So from now on, I will treat you with contempt as you appear to be a troll.
You did not last long on the Sainsbury recipe forum and I am hoping history repeats itself on here.
If and when you learn the skill of interacting on this forum, only then will I interact with you.
Simples.
My handbrake set up is a lot more complicated than a tranny I am afraid. Needs a tweak and will be retested tomorrow and pass the MOT. It has done 5,000 miles in the last year, would have been more but life (death actually) gets in the way.
When are you actually going to post something useful on here (if ever). I asked you to put a bit of background in about yourself as you have given no information on yourself at all, you are not prepared to say what wilding you have done either. So from now on, I will treat you with contempt as you appear to be a troll.
You did not last long on the Sainsbury recipe forum and I am hoping history repeats itself on here.
If and when you learn the skill of interacting on this forum, only then will I interact with you.
Simples.
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Hey Guys we are free campers
Just had over 5 weeks in France and all nights were spent on aire's except for when we visited Kath's sister on a camp site.
A free loader I am
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sorry we had to pay for a couple of nights as charges were applicable on these specific aire's
Hi *****, Glad to see you are back. Hopefully the quality of useful information will now get back to its former level.
Any pics of stopovers ?
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Hi *****, We are off to France, Spain & Portugal around the 24th Sept for six weeks or so. I may ask you to let me have your old route from Sam Sebastian across northern Spain
(non motorway). Last year we followed the pilgrim trail from Pamplona to cape Finisterre, which is further south than your route.
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(non motorway). Last year we followed the pilgrim trail from Pamplona to cape Finisterre, which is further south than your route.
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You are spot on. The whole idea is to go and get lost just anywhere! Drive along see a pub in a nice spot, into the pub "If we have a meal and a few beers, can we stop-over in your car park landlord"? does the trick 99% of the time. Having said that I have just got back from the Isle of Wight where my parntner and I lived until Feb this year. We are in the Ventnor comic Jazz band (see us on Utube) and went back for the carnivals. Only stayed on one site during our fortnights holiday. If any one wants to know where to wild camp on the Island, I can certainly give you all the info you need.
Slowhand
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Straying a bit off topic again.
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Hi P*ss in Boots, There you go again attempting a little levity, pardon me if I dont laugh too hard! I hope the handbrake problems are fixed and its hard-on again then you wont have to move. You wouldnt want to spoil a lifetime of idleness? I was really hurt by your insults lol. Now wheres that pussy hiding this time, I wonder!
Pam10
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being a new comer to wild camping with our van , and never as yet in the UK , can i just ask the question . where does one park and not get moved on ? in france we pull up when and where we like , we don't need a "campsite" which was the whole point of buying an RV and no we not against paying at all , just want freedom . just don't want a policeman knocking on our window at 3am saying move on .
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Hi Pam10,
Your question is exactly like the first question I asked when I entered this forum. To date I havent received any meaningful answer. However I will endevour to resolve your plight.
Within all of the UK it is mostly frowned upon to park any m/home overnight. In some towns and localities it seems that there is an un-written rule regarding motorhomes. Consequently virtualy every speck of land owned by any council has overhead hieght-barriers and / or large boulders/mounds of earth barring access. Obtaining or refilling any water tanks is a huge problem. Yes! you can use garage forecourts but will experience very low water pressure at the water-taps and only than if a tap exists. In a nutshell m/homers are virtualy prohibited from stopping except where the driver considers s/he can park without damage and also away from boy-racers,thieves,hooligans and other such dredges of society too numerous to mention. I base these (my) personal conclusions upon three years of wilding and free-camping. The manufacturers of m/homes are in for a double whammy. 1: the recession. 2: that buyers will be expected to fork out £30k - £60k and then learn that they cannot park their hard earned m/home anywhere near any scenic location. The National Trust are the first offenders to m/homers and the local councils are a close second. Commentors upon, Wilding or Free Camping, often believe that such m/homers dont buy Roads Fund licences, Insurance or MOT''s. Also that the fuel used by such m/homers must come free also. The sooner these stupid persons who want to forbid Wilding and Free m/home campers realise that a large Industry could collapse the better. In addition the Industy it self should sit up and help clear the way for the sake of continueing in business and customer freedom. Northern and S/Ireland is now a Dont-Go-Area due to 'No Overnight Parking' Height Barriers and boy racers who are actively encouraged to wreck any prospects of a m/home driver getting any sleep. Im sorry to be wet blanket on this 'thorny subject' but those are the facts as I have learned at first hand. I can supply areas and location 'Not To Go'
If you have knowledge of France etc ...good. I beleive its a different set-up over there.
Take care
Your question is exactly like the first question I asked when I entered this forum. To date I havent received any meaningful answer. However I will endevour to resolve your plight.
Within all of the UK it is mostly frowned upon to park any m/home overnight. In some towns and localities it seems that there is an un-written rule regarding motorhomes. Consequently virtualy every speck of land owned by any council has overhead hieght-barriers and / or large boulders/mounds of earth barring access. Obtaining or refilling any water tanks is a huge problem. Yes! you can use garage forecourts but will experience very low water pressure at the water-taps and only than if a tap exists. In a nutshell m/homers are virtualy prohibited from stopping except where the driver considers s/he can park without damage and also away from boy-racers,thieves,hooligans and other such dredges of society too numerous to mention. I base these (my) personal conclusions upon three years of wilding and free-camping. The manufacturers of m/homes are in for a double whammy. 1: the recession. 2: that buyers will be expected to fork out £30k - £60k and then learn that they cannot park their hard earned m/home anywhere near any scenic location. The National Trust are the first offenders to m/homers and the local councils are a close second. Commentors upon, Wilding or Free Camping, often believe that such m/homers dont buy Roads Fund licences, Insurance or MOT''s. Also that the fuel used by such m/homers must come free also. The sooner these stupid persons who want to forbid Wilding and Free m/home campers realise that a large Industry could collapse the better. In addition the Industy it self should sit up and help clear the way for the sake of continueing in business and customer freedom. Northern and S/Ireland is now a Dont-Go-Area due to 'No Overnight Parking' Height Barriers and boy racers who are actively encouraged to wreck any prospects of a m/home driver getting any sleep. Im sorry to be wet blanket on this 'thorny subject' but those are the facts as I have learned at first hand. I can supply areas and location 'Not To Go'
If you have knowledge of France etc ...good. I beleive its a different set-up over there.
Take care
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as a matter of interest a m,home is a m1 category under eu. law as a definition of vehicle. that makes it a car with a special body . under eu law it cannot be classed different to a car. if cars can park there so can a m,home. sleepng in a car is allowed unless a by law as been passed by a local authority. signs saying no sleeping in motorhomes are not really legal as it should say no sleeping in cars. . this as been taken up by a few euro m,home clubs and thats why the interiour ministry in spain issued a letter to all police in spain. it also applies to uk. there as been letters sent to the eu comunity to evoke these no camping in m,homes signs in uk .as and when i shall let you all know. unless m,home folk fight the regulations or atleast make sure the authorities abide by their own laws we shall be brushed away. unfortunately the m,home community as many mamsey pamsey folk who never question authority ,do as they are told and never stand upfor their rights. thats why uk is suffering the troubles we have. as for wild camping in uk its really a bit difficult to wild. as there is hardly any real wild places . unlike africa. etc . but wild /free is the same as far as i can see. but do we really need a fall out of the definition i dont think so. i can say i wild camp and also free camp. cheers alan.
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Pam10
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Thanks everyone , seems like a sore point . we spend most of our time in france and love the freedom to stop where we like . sadly over here it seems very different , i agree the local councils are stopping motorhomes from parking overnight , we even struggle to PARK , as we are big compared to the EU vans , but with a husband 6ft 6" he can't sleep or even stand up in a small van . hey ho , looks like france will win again . shame, so much in this country to see , the councils need to wake up , before its to late .
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I would like to agree with you but I simply cannot due to my own personal experiences of several weeks free-camping. In the main free-camping is not tolerated almost everywhere now. 3 years ago it was a lot different and considerably easier. But things have changed for others and also myself during this summer period. I have spoken with lots of m/homers and seemingly all (not most) agree. Im not angry at what is happening to our lack of choices and freedom--- Im furious! You very rightly state that there are places to park if you are responsible and take precautions. I dont disagree with that statement. But there are fewer and fewer spots to overnight left. Initialy it was the Gypsies that caused the closure of numerous parking zones ,, simply because it cost the rate-payers several hundred thousand pounds to clear-up after they were eventualy evicted. Then not too surprisingly 'No Overnight Parking signs' appeared. In addition the bolders and mounds of earth etc. You must have seen them? They are in most places that I have visited (to date) this summer. I do not wish to sound annoyed, perhaps it is the way you read that which I write and add your own intonation or colour to my words?
Take care
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Teffy
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I'm finding all this very worrying. We got our motorhome end of last year and had one weekend out, parked overnight in a car park at the coast. Because of work problems haven't been able to get away although my husband and son went to a music festival in it last week. Was thinking of a week away in October with part proper sites and part other places but you all make sites sound so dreadful and other places so difficult to find that I'm wondering if I shouldn't just stop at home? We don't have much money and the van is quite elderly like us.
Pam10
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i know that feeling Teffy , i am worried about wild camping , i think we will book sites , sadly , the problem is they are expensive , if we take our sons we are four adults works out about £25 a night , and we don't need the loo's or showers , just the parking! all seems wrong , hence go to france its cheaper , use the Aires in the villages , they are free or cheap , we use all local shops when out there to put back in what we take out so to speak . we found some brill places to stay last year and this june , just breath taking , beside rivers , on the beach . amazing , the boys loved it .
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Due to my recent experiences and chatting to numerous other m/homers during the last several weeks Im now utterly against m/homing within the UK. It seems to me that our only viable choice for m/homers is to go south to France and beyond.
I dont want to sound like an old soldier or a grumpy old man but,, those out of the way places where we used to be able to park-up for the night have all but disapeared (okay you might find the occasional overnight parkup spot available) but beware! Due to political correctness and modern laws there are now too many same sex couples at these out of the way locations (how else can I say it?). In addition gypsies fouling every green spot throughout the land have caused councils to fork out multi-£££thousands to clean and sanitise these areas. Councils cannot state (for political reasons) that its the gypsies,,, so they state that its the youth of today having "Raves." Its a sign of the times Im afraid. In Stranraer Scotland there is 1 overnight spot which is free "Bunker Cafe" and car park with toilets and water. (free 2 U and no charge) Lorries use it and its not noisy and its safe. Overlooking a Loch.
Take care
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Hi Pam10 and Teffy and welcome.
If you do a bit of homework before a trip, you can still find places to wild. The height of the season is over now and it should be quieter.
We are off to Scotland next week and expect to wild all the time unless the weather is atrocious. I am a member of the C&CC club even though I have not been on one of their sites for about 18 months. The small 5 van sites are cheap. They have a lot of temporary Holiday sites and weekend meets throughout the year. They are very basic with just fresh water tap and elsan disposal. If you are a family then these are a good option with kids in tow.
I have a list of wilding spots on my Tom Tom. It will cost you £15 to be a full member here and you get the lot. If it saves one night on a site then you have got your money back.
I use google earth to plan my trip. Apart from the Scottish places I have on the satnav, I have sussed out some new places and will give them a try. You should get yourselves to Scotland, the rush is over as it is wall to wall m/homes in Summer. I cannot think of anything worse. We were up the West coast of Scotland in March and saw only one other m/home, it was brilliant. Out of season you can ignore some of the no overnighting signs as they have no basis in law. The local people often tell you to stay.
If the signs are official council ones then it is best to respect them. The further North you go, the more wilding spots there are.
Cheer up, the Autumn is a fantastic time to get away.
If you do a bit of homework before a trip, you can still find places to wild. The height of the season is over now and it should be quieter.
We are off to Scotland next week and expect to wild all the time unless the weather is atrocious. I am a member of the C&CC club even though I have not been on one of their sites for about 18 months. The small 5 van sites are cheap. They have a lot of temporary Holiday sites and weekend meets throughout the year. They are very basic with just fresh water tap and elsan disposal. If you are a family then these are a good option with kids in tow.
I have a list of wilding spots on my Tom Tom. It will cost you £15 to be a full member here and you get the lot. If it saves one night on a site then you have got your money back.
I use google earth to plan my trip. Apart from the Scottish places I have on the satnav, I have sussed out some new places and will give them a try. You should get yourselves to Scotland, the rush is over as it is wall to wall m/homes in Summer. I cannot think of anything worse
. We were up the West coast of Scotland in March and saw only one other m/home, it was brilliant. Out of season you can ignore some of the no overnighting signs as they have no basis in law. The local people often tell you to stay.If the signs are official council ones then it is best to respect them. The further North you go, the more wilding spots there are.
Cheer up, the Autumn is a fantastic time to get away.
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Hi again,
Yep Its agreed that things are getting a little difficult in England. Scotland was okay last year but seems to have tightened-up somewhat this season. Regarding "Wales" I lived in Cemaes Bay, thats on the Ise of Anglesey, for 14 years. Lovely beaches un-spoiled with quaint villages and olde worldy pubs. I was on the fringes of the local council and even then, there were mutterings that the overnighter campers would be excluded. The reasoning was that m/homes used supermarkets to fill-up with food and diesel at cut prices and thus contributed nothing to the Welsh-local-communitiesl. On top of that councilors argued that m/homes hogged the foreshore's car-parks etc. At the time I had no interest in m/homes so just listened to what seemed like honest and valid opinions. But when I last visited Anglesey 12 months ago I did notice that No Overnight Parking signs were in evidence. The Holyhead Ferry operators have made it known to the local councillors, that keeping camper types away will hit the port extremely hard financialy and this could have a knock-on effect. The tiny villages are unable to cope with the width of m/homes as they fill the tiny street and tower over the small terraced cottages thus blocking out all the available daylight into their small cottage windows. I can see the villagers point of view but what is the answere?
I'm not into caravan sites either. I refere to them as Tin-Towns. If they all were to become motorised there would be an even bigger problem.
Take care
Yep Its agreed that things are getting a little difficult in England. Scotland was okay last year but seems to have tightened-up somewhat this season. Regarding "Wales" I lived in Cemaes Bay, thats on the Ise of Anglesey, for 14 years. Lovely beaches un-spoiled with quaint villages and olde worldy pubs. I was on the fringes of the local council and even then, there were mutterings that the overnighter campers would be excluded. The reasoning was that m/homes used supermarkets to fill-up with food and diesel at cut prices and thus contributed nothing to the Welsh-local-communitiesl. On top of that councilors argued that m/homes hogged the foreshore's car-parks etc. At the time I had no interest in m/homes so just listened to what seemed like honest and valid opinions. But when I last visited Anglesey 12 months ago I did notice that No Overnight Parking signs were in evidence. The Holyhead Ferry operators have made it known to the local councillors, that keeping camper types away will hit the port extremely hard financialy and this could have a knock-on effect. The tiny villages are unable to cope with the width of m/homes as they fill the tiny street and tower over the small terraced cottages thus blocking out all the available daylight into their small cottage windows. I can see the villagers point of view but what is the answere?
I'm not into caravan sites either. I refere to them as Tin-Towns. If they all were to become motorised there would be an even bigger problem.
Take care
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bernardfeay
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We always park more or less where we like. I don't like the idea of being on a campsite and having to follow protocol. Some people like to gossip with others, we don't. Guess I'm not really shy, more antisocial.
guyd
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buy local. keep local shops going. keep local area as you like it. dont buy from teco et al. As stated - by some - 100K mh and too tight to pay for a camp site - and too tight to pay an extar quid for a 4 pack of beer from the local shop - no they drive 10 miles to tesco to save a quid.
Caveat - I live in a tourist town. I see this all day long. and 99% of MH owners are stressed to f**k and grumpy as f**k and cant drive for toffee down any narrow road. - Laugh? I nearly bought a 32' motorhome!
Caveat - I live in a tourist town. I see this all day long. and 99% of MH owners are stressed to f**k and grumpy as f**k and cant drive for toffee down any narrow road. - Laugh? I nearly bought a 32' motorhome!