Wild versus Free

and it's payed for:rolleyes::D but ferk all cash or pension to call owt till bob the builder gets his cheque book out now this goverment has stopped em useing their gardens it might be before i kick it:eek::D:D then i might get some new seat covers and wheel trims for my old bus :cool:

Evening you whinging northern tyke. Fortunately for you I am a man with a plan. As you live in a depressed area - oop norf - the government offers generous grants for business start ups. Hows about turning your 5 acres into a camp site !!!. A] You will have a good income, providing that sufficient people wish to holiday in Doncaster. & B] You can stay on your campsite without paying. problem solved. No need to thank me, its all part of the service.

Dezi
 
WILDING ???and free !

I think i have misunderstood the word or meaning WILDCAMPING for motorhomes....
Wildcamping,i thought was using your initiative,finding a beautiful place and staying ,then moving to the next,leaving it as you found it or cleaner !
As for wildcamping for MOTORHOMES,that means just that (to me) not caravans or tents etc,otherwise why not change the title or join a particular site,or am i being blinkered or the 'site' being open for more members .
I would of thought,that all 'wildcamping' would be FREE,otherwise how are you classing it as WILD ? You mean it hasn't a pool? or only several shower blocks or it hasn't a club house/bar ? I am indeed a bit confused ?????
Pulling into a PUB CAR-PARK,ooh thats really wild that and using council car parks,oo you devil's,what next ?Golf courses or UK services ? lol.
Each to their own i suppose,me i cant see the point in buying a motorhome take notice of the name (home) to park within 6 foot of another lot,or a caravan or tent ! AND for the same price as a Hotel !Just buy a car,book the hotel and stay there,it'll work out cheaper...
Ok if i was travelling to somewhere looking for that new spot,and i ran out of light etc,then yes i would ask the 'pub' or park in a car-park if possible but no way would that be my choice of campervan/motorhome 'wilding ',as for not spending money,some of you say,firstly it costs money in fuel,so whereever i fill up,i'm spending money,rather than sitting on my couch watching tele,secondly,i have to eat and so do others,then there's refreshment,gifts,pay to enter places,like heritage sites etc etc,if i sat on my butt in the house or booked that hotel,what would i spending or who would benefit ? for me France uses their heads,Spain sadly are starting to put barriers etc up,as they want their hotels full,and dont want people getting ideas,luckily Germany,Austria,Poland,Hungary,well the list is endless Abroad in Europe that is,that place many wont venture too,because they dont do 'pasties' or proper chips !!!Am i having a little rant,yes i guess i am,coz i haven't heard so much tosh in a while,i guess alot of you think your ' ruffing it' because your sleeping on 'foam',haven't got 240 electric and your 40 + plasma tv ????
So ,i'm not trying to upset anyone,but trying to put things into perspective,why pick on someone if they think 'WILDING' means free ? and i thought it was too ???to be honest and finding your own unique place without the need for blah,blah,blah.
To have the privalage to be hearded like sheep,to pay £15 to £50 per night,for some concrete square,where i can empty my waste and chat to other £50,000 motorhome owners,who talk about how much they paid and what they had in their last 'campsite' they were in...........NO THANKS.:rolleyes:
 
Thank you Barny, I was starting to feel like a bit of a freak there for a while.
Glad you have similar ideas regarding wildcamping.
 
Right then newbies, one of you start a new thread introducing yourselves and put some pictures up of your van, followed by a brief background of your wilding experience.

You have had plenty of digs about other members yet we know nothing about you.

BTW you sound like young knowitalls. As an 'oldie', I would be interested in what the youf of today is getting up to.:D I need to take an interest as you will be funding my old age pension before long.
 


Evening you whinging northern tyke. Fortunately for you I am a man with a plan. As you live in a depressed area - oop norf - the government offers generous grants for business start ups. Hows about turning your 5 acres into a camp site !!!. A] You will have a good income, providing that sufficient people wish to holiday in Doncaster. & B] You can stay on your campsite without paying. problem solved. No need to thank me, its all part of the service.

Dezi
good idea:cool:get thy sen up er wi ya cheque book i'm knacked 45yrs grafts dun me not like you school teachers:eek::D:D
tailgate when do you turn green offical:rolleyes::D
 
Hello Arthur,

April 2012 I hang me boots up. I am currently building up my grumpy levels to be a typical pensioner by then. This website is a grand place for practising on the young`uns.:rolleyes:

I have retired already but get nowt off this tighta**e government. I get the wife to stand outside the Post Office in a mini skirt on Pension day. It keeps me in fags and beer but she is not the lass she once was.:(

If I was like Dezi, I could sell one of me Mayfair apartments if I was a bit short.

You should be doing alright with all them royalties from your appearances on Crimewatch.;)
 
I will never forget the night / morning of my honeymoon (steady there at the back...) where we wild camped near a stone circle in Scotland - and woke up to the most magical sight of a misty morning dew on the stones, and a mist filled valley (ooh - hairs standing up as I type) extending miles beyond and the majestic mountains clear as a bell above. And not a single Daily Mail reading sock/jesus creeper wearing pipe smoking bigot to be seen!
 
Know it all newbies and 'oldies ??

Ok,as for me,i have never ever 'used or payed' to go in a sheep pen, i mean campsite, oops i tell a lie,once when 'roughing it in Tenerife ' with my sleeping bag,not knowing where to go,and in the middle of no where,i stumbled on ,what they called a campsite,which had tents set up for people who didn't have one,smelling of urine and vomit,noisy drunk locals or dare i say 'gypsies' as that what they seemed like,i stayed the night and then found my other 'nights' along the coast on the beach.
I have been to 'sites' to meet friends and also enquired at them and parked near to them (it was dark) and i honestly can say i have no intention of staying at any,both abroad and back in the UK overpriced and unsuitable,but hey thats just me and my opinion.
I have 'wilded' for over 35 years,the last 10 on and off,mostly on,or should i say in a campervan/motorhome.
I think spending your money locally does go along way,but moreso,is the way you look (sadly) the way you act,and the way you treat the place or area,for example i have found a stunning cove or beach in Greece,near Kavala,i have been going there for three years now,roughly every 3 months for a week or more a time,and from the first day,i collected all the rubbish,not just in my spot or area,but the whole beach !! it didn't look like anyone noticed AND i didn't do it for that,i done it for my personal thing,thinking of nature and not wanting holiday makers or locals to think i caused or added to it,within 2 dys there wasn't any litter/rubbish to be seen,every morning from then on,i'm greeted with 2 fresh fish from the fishermen,and every evening,i get smiles and nods when i turn up and also waves,i am accepted,i start my little clean up,when i arrive each time and bin it.everyones happy.
Now if i played my music loud,lit big bonfires,sweared,shouted,walked around nude,crapped in the bushes etc etc,then my little heaven,would have lasted the once,and i can also say the same for all my other spots,i cant vouch for anyone else,i would hope everyone acts like this,and nothing to do with age,young or old,theres always dickheads (scuse my french)I'm no friendly looker either with long hair.nearly to my waist and long beard to my chest (biker not hippy..nowt wrong with hippies though :) ) but its your actions and the way you come across( this is not intended as a lecture for younger wilders,who actually WILD ) and i would think it harder trying to make the 'locals' relax more to you,if YOU pull up,in an old van,with hand painted murals 4 irish wolfhounds and Black Sabbath blasting out of your old Marshal amps !!
I have what i call,a posh motorhome (dont you know,lol) a 95 Talbot Autoquest 6 berth,but to some including the motorhome lot this isn't good enough,and i have been shrugged off a few times,to me,their loss.
I dont see how the 'newbies' come across as knowitalls,but are or where asking a question about 'wildcamping' and i cant see where they say how old they are ? so unless your very old (Maingate) but your not,as have't reached pensionable age as yet,maybe old in the tooth in/on this site !! but give them a chance and dont frighten them off,WE can all play a part in the wildcamping scene....maybe,even in pub carparks and council parking :)
 
Hello Arthur,

April 2012 I hang me boots up. I am currently building up my grumpy levels to be a typical pensioner by then. This website is a grand place for practising on the young`uns.:rolleyes:

I have retired already but get nowt off this tighta**e government. I get the wife to stand outside the Post Office in a mini skirt on Pension day. It keeps me in fags and beer but she is not the lass she once was.:(

If I was like Dezi, I could sell one of me Mayfair apartments if I was a bit short.

You should be doing alright with all them royalties from your appearances on Crimewatch.;)

mayfair ferkin mayfair he has property on sandbanks in poole:eek::D no kiddin and in italy and scotland and now he trying to buy some of my terrace propertys in donny:rolleyes:
 
You could'nt be more wrong

Hi, the point i was making is quite a simple one. Wild camping is about freedom, & your choice of overnight stop. Some people think wild camping is getting something for nothing & nowt else. " note the idium old un" If you insist on not paying for a nights stop regardless then there is not much freedom involved, you are dictated by whats available.However it takes all sorts.Some folks would rather park up round the back of a supermarket than pay a couple of pounds for a night at say monsal head or on a beach car park with a stunning view.

Dezi
Wild Camping is... wait for it ... Camping in "wild or remote areas."
Free Camping is all about not paying anyone for "zero facilities" and that includes Supermarket carparks or any other.
People who use 'designated sites' only are not of the intrepid variety and thus would not enter any forum such as this one.
I'm a free camper and like the price. I dont use official camp sites simply because I dont like paying £20+ for the parking of 4 wheels on some field owned by a guy who wants my money. It would be cheaper for me to park within central London at £5 per wheel for a few hours of darkness.
Mostly 'some users' of this site seem utterly senseless and I doubt if they have ever had a camper-van.
For this reason I exit this shambolick site but... pronto! And thanks but no thanks.
 
Wild Camping is... wait for it ... Camping in "wild or remote areas."
Free Camping is all about not paying anyone for "zero facilities" and that includes Supermarket carparks or any other.
People who use 'designated sites' only are not of the intrepid variety and thus would not enter any forum such as this one.
I'm a free camper and like the price. I dont use official camp sites simply because I dont like paying £20+ for the parking of 4 wheels on some field owned by a guy who wants my money. It would be cheaper for me to park within central London at £5 per wheel for a few hours of darkness.
Mostly 'some users' of this site seem utterly senseless and I doubt if they have ever had a camper-van.
For this reason I exit this shambolick site but... pronto! And thanks but no thanks.
oh kin el:eek:not summut i said i hope:rolleyes:watch the door on the waaay out !! sorry:eek:
 
Where does this £20 a night come from? I have never paid anywhere near that.

Anyway, I thought you had gone.:confused:
 
Niether have I -- but thats an average 'without hook-up' during peak periods. As I said in an earlier post, "I Dont Pay."
I just Won a fiver because someone said I wouldnt get a respons within 5 mins -- I got 2. Thanks :D
 
Ok,as for me,i have never ever 'used or payed' to go in a sheep pen, i mean campsite, oops i tell a lie,once when 'roughing it in Tenerife ' with my sleeping bag,not knowing where to go,and in the middle of no where,i stumbled on ,what they called a campsite,which had tents set up for people who didn't have one,smelling of urine and vomit,noisy drunk locals or dare i say 'gypsies' as that what they seemed like,i stayed the night and then found my other 'nights' along the coast on the beach.
I have been to 'sites' to meet friends and also enquired at them and parked near to them (it was dark) and i honestly can say i have no intention of staying at any,both abroad and back in the UK overpriced and unsuitable,but hey thats just me and my opinion.
I have 'wilded' for over 35 years,the last 10 on and off,mostly on,or should i say in a campervan/motorhome.
I think spending your money locally does go along way,but moreso,is the way you look (sadly) the way you act,and the way you treat the place or area,for example i have found a stunning cove or beach in Greece,near Kavala,i have been going there for three years now,roughly every 3 months for a week or more a time,and from the first day,i collected all the rubbish,not just in my spot or area,but the whole beach !! it didn't look like anyone noticed AND i didn't do it for that,i done it for my personal thing,thinking of nature and not wanting holiday makers or locals to think i caused or added to it,within 2 dys there wasn't any litter/rubbish to be seen,every morning from then on,i'm greeted with 2 fresh fish from the fishermen,and every evening,i get smiles and nods when i turn up and also waves,i am accepted,i start my little clean up,when i arrive each time and bin it.everyones happy.
Now if i played my music loud,lit big bonfires,sweared,shouted,walked around nude,crapped in the bushes etc etc,then my little heaven,would have lasted the once,and i can also say the same for all my other spots,i cant vouch for anyone else,i would hope everyone acts like this,and nothing to do with age,young or old,theres always dickheads (scuse my french)I'm no friendly looker either with long hair.nearly to my waist and long beard to my chest (biker not hippy..nowt wrong with hippies though :) ) but its your actions and the way you come across( this is not intended as a lecture for younger wilders,who actually WILD ) and i would think it harder trying to make the 'locals' relax more to you,if YOU pull up,in an old van,with hand painted murals 4 irish wolfhounds and Black Sabbath blasting out of your old Marshal amps !!
I have what i call,a posh motorhome (dont you know,lol) a 95 Talbot Autoquest 6 berth,but to some including the motorhome lot this isn't good enough,and i have been shrugged off a few times,to me,their loss.
I dont see how the 'newbies' come across as knowitalls,but are or where asking a question about 'wildcamping' and i cant see where they say how old they are ? so unless your very old (Maingate) but your not,as have't reached pensionable age as yet,maybe old in the tooth in/on this site !! but give them a chance and dont frighten them off,WE can all play a part in the wildcamping scene....maybe,even in pub carparks and council parking :)





I like your style Barny,you cant beat Greece we love it,i would imagine you would fill up a few bags with all the plastic bottles that wash up on them beaches.
 
If everyone thought like you................

i totally dislike campsites and try to avoid them at all times. i find them horrible places and not exactly over keen on the people that i find on them if and when i use them. some seem like a boat marina walk through one to get to the other. what does a campsite offer. expensive water somewhere to tip loo and thats it. dont use club houses as they are full of people i dont like. dont actually use pubs muchas same people frequent them as well. cant see anymore safety on a campsite and usually feel the campsite as just ripped me off. wild free call it what you like. dont pay for parking if i can help it. sooner be on a gypsy camp than a campsite. and you get a better welcome . spent a few days in portugal last winter with a fairground . hard to communicate but what a friendly bunch. no thank you keep your camp sites . cheers alan.

It seems to me Vwalan that you are very opinionated about people that use camp sites.
You say you don't like club houses and pubs - seems to me you are loner or even worse a people hater.
Campsites ripped you off - I can't believe you are saying that!
Rather be with gypsies or fairground workers. Good God man - they are all villains and vagabonds.
You sound like a man of my own heart. BUT keep it quiet mate. We don't want too many people doing what we are doing. Chill - Peace man.
 
Oh thats nice innit !!!

I try to help out the disadvantaged with a cunning business plan & suddenly I am a retired school teacher with property in mayfair. Neither of those claims are strictly accurate.

I agree with Maingate on one point however.Some members need to get a few miles under their belt & a few experiences behind them before jumping in and criticizing others, who just may,possibly have been there and dun it.

Dezi
 
A little awakening rant ?or a shock to the 'system'

And maybe, forgotten it

I'd like to add though,that many 'motorhomers and campers' , i can't say ' wilders ' as thy are NOT(in my eyes),but think they are ! use "campsites" because of the very fact that there's others,like theirselves there,they have a comfort zone,a place of interest,someone to talk too,some sort of safety AND perhaps thats what they think 'camping or even wilding ' is all about !!
The mere fact that they have a camper worth £30,000 and upwards,makes them campers and wilders :) and really (i'm being a little blunt,so excuse me) were tuggers,that have either retired or come into a bit more money,so buy the all dancing motorhome which sits languishing on the large drive for 11+ months a year or maybe a weekend use at whitsun,but of course use to go to the favourite campsite within a 100 mile drive, not to overdo it .
Sounds like i'm having a go doesn't it,well maybe i am a little,i just wish that people accepted everyone who travels or actually likes camping and wilding and not looks down on others who have,lets say just a van,as long as everyone behaves theirselves and spreads a good name as always,there are a certain percentage that spoil it for all,who get tarred with being campers or wilders but being totally NOT, are there to 'party' or cause a ruckus and mess,these can be so called proper 'travellers' too,who basicly need to be taught how to behave and live like humans ( to true ?)
I know its hard to judge someone from a distance,and better perhaps to 'be at a distance' as you might mix with the wrong type,and it does seem sad that ,thats the way it is right across society,which only makes more barriers and breeds contempt,but people shouldn't presume,maybe i am myself,in this quiet rant of mine,have two older,longer served members (in their wisdom and rye humour) frightened off or offended 'newbies' or perhaps true/original wilders off from this great site, if you haven't gone ,give it a chance state your thoughts,as its better for a forum,i would think, for everyone to express their thoughts,practises,ideas,ideals,interests,knowledge etc etc this stops it being stale,led by a certain few,captivated to a certain area,but opens it up,to suggestions and newness ??????
Anyway back to 'wilding' so where's a good pub carpark ? or cheap campsite,that has that certain beer or sandwich ?that takes your 2.2 dogs and allows you to erect a marque outside your camper to meet 'aquantenses' :D
 

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