Wild versus Free

[Dezi]

And maybe, forgotten it

I'd like to add though,that many 'motorhomers and campers' , i can't say ' wilders ' as thy are NOT(in my eyes),but think they are ! use "campsites" because of the very fact that there's others,like theirselves there,they have a comfort zone,a place of interest,someone to talk too,some sort of safety AND perhaps thats what they think 'camping or even wilding ' is all about !!
The mere fact that they have a camper worth £30,000 and upwards,makes them campers and wilders and really (i'm being a little blunt,so excuse me) were tuggers,that have either retired or come into a bit more money,so buy the all dancing motorhome which sits languishing on the large drive for 11+ months a year or maybe a weekend use at whitsun,but of course use to go to the favourite campsite within a 100 mile drive, not to overdo it .
Sounds like i'm having a go doesn't it,well maybe i am a little,i just wish that people accepted everyone who travels or actually likes camping and wilding and not looks down on others who have,lets say just a van,as long as everyone behaves theirselves and spreads a good name as always,there are a certain percentage that spoil it for all,who get tarred with being campers or wilders but being totally NOT, are there to 'party' or cause a ruckus and mess,these can be so called proper 'travellers' too,who basicly need to be taught how to behave and live like humans ( to true ?)
I know its hard to judge someone from a distance,and better perhaps to 'be at a distance' as you might mix with the wrong type,and it does seem sad that ,thats the way it is right across society,which only makes more barriers and breeds contempt,but people shouldn't presume,maybe i am myself,in this quiet rant of mine,have two older,longer served members (in their wisdom and rye humour) frightened off or offended 'newbies' or perhaps true/original wilders off from this great site, if you haven't gone ,give it a chance state your thoughts,as its better for a forum,i would think, for everyone to express their thoughts,practises,ideas,ideals,interests,knowledge etc etc this stops it being stale,led by a certain few,captivated to a certain area,but opens it up,to suggestions and newness ??????
Anyway back to 'wilding' so where's a good pub carpark ? or cheap campsite,that has that certain beer or sandwich ?that takes your 2.2 dogs and allows you to erect a marque outside your camper to meet 'aquantenses'

Well my self opinionated friend, as they say there is nothing like a well thought out viewpoint, and I think we can safely say that, that was nothing like one.
You know so much about me & others on this site & our lifestyles, yet we have never met. Clairvoyant are we.

Dezi

 

[duncananderson]

in defence of pubs!!!

barney said "wheres a good pub carpark", err look in the pub stopover section, i presume thats what its there for.
tintern abbey, tann hill, betsy-coewdy & my own gaff to name but a few.
theres another different list in google maps by mark. dezi has contributed loads of places. its up to people to try them and write a description (good or bad) its not everyones cup of of tea and its about personal choice.
however if you have been driving for hours and theres a nice, friendly, safe, pub carpark that welcomes motorhomes, campervans, self builds, trucks,
workers in tranny vans ect ect, surely its nice to know you have the OPTION
of stopping there.
most of the pubs listed are in stunning rural locations and i would certainly class my carpark as being a bit WILD.
I have welcomed about 50 vans here in the last 10 months. everyone of them were absolutley lovely people (evan aj !!!) and all left as personal friends.
well done barney on the rubbish front that is good good good.

vwalan said "i dont stop at pubs because of the type of people who frequent them"
most clientele of remote rural pubs are lovely gentle people and i must defend them. you are hardly going to park up in a lary town centre gaff are you?
wild places, campsites some good some bad, pubs its all about personal choice and how long you have been on the road that day.
if you dont feel comfortable in a place for whatever reason move on.

rant over for now

 

[barnybg]

Mmmm ?

Dezi ,What makes you think i was talking about you,and personally,but if the cloth fits ??? Duh,i'm generalizing as to create areaction or viewpoint,it is still allowed isn't it ?.....my friend !
Duncan...I know there's a 'pub stop over' section on this site...I was taking the Pi55 as carparks especially pub ones are not exactly........ Wild as in camping,maybe in other ways,try some of the Welsh valley ones,at 10 pm onwards ,but i guess i know what your saying and yes it's really good to have a friendly place that accepts you, listed,and thank you,good for us,good for you,hopefully.
I think some are taking it seriously about my little rant,it's just my idea of what 'wilding' is,compared to yours i suppose,wilding and free go together,because just by the mere fact your in the middle of nowhere or not parked next to someone/thing means it will be FREE (as theres no one to charge,and to charge for what..fresh air) and its WILD
Sorry ,i cant class a campsite or even a pub car-park as ...wild ,now i know you poor things cant seem to find 'wild areas' or are indeed running out of places because the powers that be,or business people or even land owners are fencing vast areas off,or charging for the right,or even moving you on,from these dwindling spots,but there's other places other than the UK and fish and chips

 

[Slowhand]

I think we can see from this thread that we have the following 'wild' members :

1. Campers, those that don't wild camp and never will, they just visit this site for the chat and banter etc.

2. Wannabes, those that like the idea of wild camping but have not got around to doing it for one reason or another.

3. Freecampers, those that wild camp because it's free and they are just parking for a few hours sleep, they refuse to pay camp site fee's for just a few hours parking.

4. FreeLoaders, those that find a spot and stay there for days/weeks only moving to get supplies from the supermarket etc and avoid spending money while away.

5. Meeters, these are those that just go to the meets arranged on here and other sites.

6. Any of the above, these are those that do not rule out any option, sometimes they will stop on a camp site, other times they will stop in the midddle of no where for the night and enjoy the views or a pub car park and enjoy a meal and a glass of wine etc.

I don't think any of us can say one is right and the others are wrong, everyone is different and has a different view on what 'wild' means.

I agree with the last part of your post so why was there so much arguing then?

 

[Deleted member 3802]

well done tit (sorry !! greg ) i think you have covered all the bases there
but for me personally my m/h gives me freedom it is set up with every thing we need and is never more than 5/10 mins away from being mobile inside and out ,if it feels right we stay if not a pot of tea and we move on,in one of the posts someone said about bein a people hater, anti social i think that could be a fair discription of me now and in the van i can be switched off, i have met and talked and had drinks with members on here but i don't do meets or anything organised in a group i have all the family and friends i can afford at home i get in my van live my dream and ferk the system at least till monday morning comes round again
p.s. i let a site member stop on my place in his van before he went to work abroad and told him he can park up over winter for a bit of leccy money why because i wish i could do the same

 

[Deleted member 3802]

I agree with the last part of your post so why was there so much arguing then?

because we are all differant troll

 

[Dezi]

Dezi ,What makes you think i was talking about you,and personally,but if the cloth fits ??? Duh,i'm generalizing as to create areaction or viewpoint,it is still allowed isn't it ?

.....my friend !
Duncan...I know there's a 'pub stop over' section on this site...I was taking the Pi55 as carparks especially pub ones are not exactly........ Wild as in camping,maybe in other ways,try some of the Welsh valley ones,at 10 pm onwards ,but i guess i know what your saying and yes it's really good to have a friendly place that accepts you, listed,and thank you,good for us,good for you,hopefully.
I think some are taking it seriously about my little rant,it's just my idea of what 'wilding' is,compared to yours i suppose,wilding and free go together,because just by the mere fact your in the middle of nowhere or not parked next to someone/thing means it will be FREE (as theres no one to charge,and to charge for what..fresh air) and its WILD
Sorry ,i cant class a campsite or even a pub car-park as ...wild ,now i know you poor things cant seem to find 'wild areas' or are indeed running out of places because the powers that be,or business people or even land owners are fencing vast areas off,or charging for the right,or even moving you on,from these dwindling spots,but there's other places other than the UK and fish and chips

Hi, probably because you personally answered my comments. the English language works like that .Duh

Dezi

 

[lisa01633]

we just sold our caravan and jeep to have the freedom of being spontanious .. we just had our third weekend in our mh and are loving the fact that you can just jump in and if you see somewhere nice you can just pull over and have a cuppa .. we paid for 2 sites this weekend so as for us not site paying i just blew that out the window

we are quite new to this and i'm sure we will find the free places soon lol

also if we had designated spots then we wouldn't annoy so much would we

 

[Dezi]

QUOTE=lisa01633;110321]we just sold our caravan and jeep to have the freedom of being spontanious .. we just had our third week[end in our mh and are loving the fact that you can just jump in and if you see somewhere nice you can just pull over and have a cuppa .. we paid for 2 sites this weekend so as for us not site paying i just blew that out the window

we are quite new to this and i'm sure we will find the free places soon lol

also if we had designated spots then we wouldn't annoy so much would we[/QUOTE]

Hi lisa01633, Selling your caravan & buying a motor home is a sure sign of maturity & a superior intellect, although there are one or two exceptions. Plenty of free wilding sites abound, both in the UK & abroad all fully documented on the web.
Dezi

 

[lisa01633]

Hi Dezi .. well they say life begins at 40 and i turned that in march .. time to get out and enjoy the scenery which you can't do in a caravan .. specially looking at the lanes we went around this weekend lol ..never been abroad haven't seen all the sights in this country yet .. not sure about the intellectual bit but the maturity is definately creeping up on me lol

 

[barnybg]

Ooh- err Mrs.

Duh!duh! ............After the fact,let me explain slowly,i generalized you took the bait,as if i was talking about you,you answered to it,i answered back and so forth,is that enough Eeengliiiish for you or do you want me to say it in the original British tongue/dialect............ Welsh


As stated by many ,including me. each to thier own I like 'wilding' the term or definition to me,is what it says,not campsites for motorhomes or pub weekenders for M/H's,or top class camp sites to pay more money than a hotel for motorhomes,or caravan club,lets get together with them,but again , its my point of view I like it,you may not want or like what i want or like,cool.
I enjoy this site because it interests me,hopefully i can debate or read other posts and either comment or move on,i happened to comment to this thread...sorry,that i am a proper 'wilder',now then let me into your fairytale,what do you do/go and own ?

 

[Slowhand]

Fight!!


Eric

 

[Coolasluck]

4. FreeLoaders, those that find a spot and stay there for days/weeks only moving to get supplies from the supermarket etc and avoid spending money while away.





FreeLoaders
I dont really like that term,for me wilding is just what it says and camping away from it all and away from humanity,if that is at all possible and not paying some robbing git to park with their permission.When we full-time i will be a freeloader we will have to be careful with our cash which will mean buying essentials only and not throwing our money away.
As long as you dont cause a nuisance take rubbish away and are left alone what harm are you causing.Incidentally we do wildcamp now and take our food with us its cheaper that way.We have always worked all our lives and have paid into the system,so as far as i am concerned we are not freeloaders anyway.Once we have packed it all in we will spend the rest of our lives freeloading as has been termed and making as much from life as possible,and enjoying the important things in life,if people dont like it tough.**** them and the horse they rode in on.

 

[Dezi]

Duh!duh! ............After the fact,let me explain slowly,i generalized you took the bait,as if i was talking about you,you answered to it,i answered back and so forth,is that enough Eeengliiiish for you or do you want me to say it in the original British tongue/dialect............ Welsh


As stated by many ,including me. each to thier own I like 'wilding' the term or definition to me,is what it says,not campsites for motorhomes or pub weekenders for M/H's,or top class camp sites to pay more money than a hotel for motorhomes,or caravan club,lets get together with them,but again , its my point of view I like it,you may not want or like what i want or like,cool.
I enjoy this site because it interests me,hopefully i can debate or read other posts and either comment or move on,i happened to comment to this thread...sorry,that i am a proper 'wilder',now then let me into your fairytale,what do you do/go and own ?

Er no, I finished a comment by saying "possibly have been there and dun it” & you replied "And maybe, forgotten it"
That’s replying to me personally. Not generalising. I suggest that you stop digging, you are in deep enough already & I am getting bored.

Incidentally the original British( Brythonic) tongue/dialect was not exclusively Welsh. But that’s for another forum.

Dezi

 

[Deleted member 3802]

TIME GENTLEMEN PLEASE

 

[maingate]

I go away for a few hours to get my MOT done and look what happens!!

The deported Welshman spits his dummy out of the pram and Dezi has missed two Board meetings in the City replying to him.

Barny, go a bit further East. We cannot be doing with you AND vwalan at the same time. Better still, you two sell your vans and get into model railways and join the appropriate forum.

Coolasluck, if you try to full time up here, I will set the dogs on you.

Give me gypsies every time. Bleeding Welshmen and Cornwallonions.

BTW, failed MOT on handbrake.

 

[Deleted member 3802]

BTW, failed MOT on handbrake.
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One of a dwindling band.


drop it in an i'll sort itcheap for oap's

 

[Dezi]

I go away for a few hours to get my MOT done and look what happens!!

The deported Welshman spits his dummy out of the pram and Dezi has missed two Board meetings in the City replying to him.

Barny, go a bit further East. We cannot be doing with you AND vwalan at the same time. Better still, you two sell your vans and get into model railways and join the appropriate forum.

Coolasluck, if you try to full time up here, I will set the dogs on you.

Give me gypsies every time. Bleeding Welshmen and Cornwallonions.

BTW, failed MOT on handbrake.

Oi maingate, Will you and that geriatric in Doncaster stop spreading these rumours i.e. rapacious retired lecturer, now coining it in city property markets. If word gets out I shall have to stop sending out the begging letters to lottery winners.

Dezi

 

[Coolasluck]

BTW, failed MOT on handbrake.







There is a god after all and those dogs like me so would be more likely to attack jou Jim

Im going to change my avatar soon just to prove my point on said whipets

 

[Edforth]

Im glad some else agrees with me Free-Camping is not Wilding. And it dous'nt make a person a Freeloader either. The 'dictatorial olduns' on this forum are abject juveniles. They maybe colourful old twits to some -- but to others they are gremlins in disguise. Anyway how can campers spend so much time on the forums ie: "several thousand postings" and yet be free spirits who are out enjoying the freedom of an open field gate?
One guy has been parked up so long his handbrake had siezed-up without him knowing about it!
Take care.