Wild versus Free

maingate said:
Thanks for that info Dezi.:)

ps; I should not be talking to you after the horrible things you have said about my good friend Arthur. He is not all there you know.:eek: Poor beggar.
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A priest asked Voltaire on his deathbed to renounce Satan.
Voltaire replied "Now, now my good man, this is no time for making more enemies".

So stop trying to lead me astray young man. I have sufficient individuals wishing to see my head mounted on a pike, without incurring the wrath of the Doncaster mafia.

Dezi
 
Dezi said:



Hi, Two minor points. 1] Some information on truckstops is years old, but that is not the same as being years out of date. 2 ] If you do not intend to divulge ( share) information, may I ask what sort of reception you anticipate getting from members when you ask a question ?

Dezi
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I expect nothing. The info I was speaking about was truck parking spots that are best not divulged, I've lost many a great overnight stop because of selfish gits finding them and ruining them .

Many of the truckstops in the POI you quote are shut now. Not my doing and not what I want, merely an observation.

Eric
 
What A thread

Man what a thread. I have just sat and read the lot all in one go. It seems that some where in the middle of the thread newbies came under some attack. I am new to this site.
I have been a camper since a child and started camping as a family only 10 years ago progressing from a tent -trailer tent- folding camper and then now to our lovely motorhome.
I haven't joined as yet but intend to. I am doing my reasearch to give me enough ammunition to talk the good lady into it - so far so good but still along way to go. The reason for wanting to "wild camp" is to get away a litle bit further a feild. We DA camp everyweeked and I see wild camping as the next stage in my camping experience.
I do feel that some newbe's to this have been given a little stick especially from Barnyby and regarding a motorhome worth more than 30k and the statement "motorhome lot" is a bit harsh. I am both a newby and a "motohome lot" but feel I have a lot to learn from many on this site. It's not nice to be victomised for trying to do something you love. I already abide by all the camping rules anyway. That said a good thread and debate between wild and free. For what it is worth I see wild camping as freedom of choice weather it be to pay not pay, car park or a beach - When I have found some wild spots I will share with you all as think this is the backbone of this great website
 
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i there,the newbie's you refer to are they still posting ??most were trolls:cool:
 
BarnyBG

I think you'll find that if your Road Tax and Insurance run out while you are abroad (as ours have done in the past) you can renew them either by post or online. The documents can then be posted to any address you nominate by a friend/relative who collects them from your doorstep - or possibly by the organisation concerned but we haven't tried this. There is the drawback of needing an address but you could use a mail office box.

As for the MOT - I agree absolutely with you. You have to go "home" for that and it is bloody annoying when there are similar systems in operation all over the EU and we are all supposed to be members of the same community. I'd certainly back any campaign to change the rules here. In the meantime, before heading abroad we always make sure we have an MOT that is going to be valid long after we plan to return.
 
John H said:
BarnyBG

I think you'll find that if your Road Tax and Insurance run out while you are abroad (as ours have done in the past) you can renew them either by post or online. The documents can then be posted to any address you nominate by a friend/relative who collects them from your doorstep - or possibly by the organisation concerned but we haven't tried this. There is the drawback of needing an address but you could use a mail office box.

As for the MOT - I agree absolutely with you. You have to go "home" for that and it is bloody annoying when there are similar systems in operation all over the EU and we are all supposed to be members of the same community. I'd certainly back any campaign to change the rules here. In the meantime, before heading abroad we always make sure we have an MOT that is going to be valid long after we plan to return.
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You ARE a rebel - I knew it
 
My reasons to Wild - pain and simple! 99% of the time, a registered site is miles away from where we want to be (Tourist attraction/town/fantastic views etc etc).
If a more local and suitable location is found, plain and simple it saves a bloody long walk or cycle ride to get to it. Not from the fact its Free or Not, but mine's on a convenience point of view. If a town (like France where there are the Aires or Municipal Sites) that have facilities are very close, I will use them quite happily. Pub Car Parks - like there's an issue there ;), but best of all are hidden gems in and around Canals/Forests etc.
For me it's not about the fact is free or not, but me and the wife to use the van with the Freedom of being able to visit here, there and everywhere with ease.
 
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Good! I'm very glad to hear it. I really wish we could meet - I'd LOVE to put a face to the name! Your tenacity is admirable.
 
I do all three:

Campsites, wildcamping, and stealth camping.

There are wildcampers who don't like stealth campers, and campsite aficionados who don't like either of the other two.

I'd say horses for courses. Do what suits your schedule and your pocket. To be honest, site camping even on CLs can mean quite a lot of planning ahead as the sites get booked, even if people don't show. I'm very much a spur of the moment person. I don't like booking ahead, espec many months in advance.

On forums such as outandaboutlive (is that the MMM associated forum?) my opinion is that the management and the readership tends to go hand in glove with the official converters and site providers. Most of these magazine or website ventures are partly funded by advertising and the traders who provide stuff "free" for review even whole motorhomes for 6 months, so they can hardly be impartial.

The theme of them tends to be buy this, buy that, insure this, insure that, health and saftey, can't be too careful, spend some money..... so home conversions and wild camping are rather alien to their cause despite the odd mention or olive branch they may offer in that direction.
 
caspar said:
Good! I'm very glad to hear it. I really wish we could meet - I'd LOVE to put a face to the name! Your tenacity is admirable.
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Why is it that you manage to sound so patronising? Perhaps its because you are being so patronising. I still prefer friends who don't think it amusing to deliberately mislead others who might be in trouble. Pick on me all you like - I can give as good as I get - but there are people out there with no knowledge of the law who might in the past (I doubt if they will now) have believed your "advice". By the way, are you following me?
 
Firefox said:
I do all three:

Campsites, wildcamping, and stealth camping.

There are wildcampers who don't like stealth campers, and campsite aficionados who don't like either of the other two.

I'd say horses for courses. Do what suits your schedule and your pocket. To be honest, site camping even on CLs can mean quite a lot of planning ahead as the sites get booked, even if people don't show. I'm very much a spur of the moment person. I don't like booking ahead, espec many months in advance.

On forums such as outandaboutlive (is that the MMM associated forum?) my opinion is that the management and the readership tends to go hand in glove with the official converters and site providers. Most of these magazine or website ventures are partly funded by advertising and the traders who provide stuff "free" for review even whole motorhomes for 6 months, so they can hardly be impartial.

The theme of them tends to be buy this, buy that, insure this, insure that, health and saftey, can't be too careful, spend some money..... so home conversions and wild camping are rather alien to their cause despite the odd mention or olive branch they may offer in that direction.
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Now then Firebox, I am a member of outandaboutlive and I am certainly not a pillar of the establishment.:D
It is a very good site for technical help but it does have its share of knowitalls with a snotty attitude. They used to be very arrogant with newbies but thankfully their manners have improved lately. I had a go at one or two of them and maybe it has made a difference. Taking the mickey can be a powerful weapon sometimes.:D

A number of them do wildcamp and some are occasional posters on here. I am not telling you my name on there but the avatar should give it away. I have not posted for a while as there have been quite boring subjects lately.
 
True, I'm not particularly knocking them. Indeed I buy MMM quite regularly. But like the tabloids I tend to take some of what is written with a pinch of salt bearing in mind they are not going to bite the hand that feeds them.

There's probably even been more of an acceptance of unconventional camping now than there has been in the past. I remember the MMM "Height fight" back from the 1980's but it has always been on the basis that Mr and Mrs Pinkerton-Smythe could pick up their weekly shopping in the the coachbuilt rather than "heaven forbid" someone would have the temerity to spend the odd night in an otherwise empty car park :p
 
intresting thread :and some eaqualy intresting ideas. wild camping to me is waking up miles from anyware and away from the crowds and almost always free if you have any sense, free camping is parking whare you do not have to pay car parks laybies exetera camp sites ok if you dont mind paying through the nose for a bit of grass and expensive leccy that if you have your telly on and you use a leccy kettle together trips your meter , as for me the first two are the way to go i love the word FREE, EVEN FREELOADER, we have had 18 months in the van and never payed for a nights parking up once. i pay enough tax insurance and tax on petrol so wilding free or free wilding is my way to go, but then again i was born and grew into an old tight fisted yorkshire man but i now live is south wales and love the place its a secret i found one day
 
I have been motorhoming for 51 years and have never ever stayed at a campsite. I am on the same wavelength as Mandrake, whereby, it is the quiet areas that is my cup of tea. I love being near water, with the offside wheel on sand and nearside wheel on hard ground (LHD) when possible. Here are a few places you can achieve that.
La Barrosa (Chiclana de la Frontera) Conil de la Frontera, Tarifa, Torreguadiaro, Fuengirola, La Cala del Moral, Rincion de la Victoria, Torrox Costa, Nerja, Majorca. I could go on and on.
 
100 per cent with you guys i have been wild camping for 73 years and never paid for a nights kip,i also have a bigger motor home than the lot of you and always have.
 
coolasluck said:
100 per cent with you guys i have been wild camping for 73 years and never paid for a nights kip,i also have a bigger motor home than the lot of you and always have.
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thers an old saying size dont matter its what you can do with it that realy counts;):D but then again if your gona have one you might as well have A BIG ONE
 
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