Whole of London to be hit by new Ulez expansion ordered by Sadiq Khan

[Owlhouse]

Looks like I won't be going to London again

Sadiq Khan plans London toll roads as electric car use rises

Sadiq Khan is planning to roll out a “Singapore-style” network of toll roads across London once drivers have switched to electric vehicles.

uk.yahoo.com

It’s just a different way of taxing people. A pure con. If they are that worried about ‘pollution’ ban log burner fires as they give out as much as three diesel cars. In Edinburgh the pollution levels didn’t fall during lockdown even though there were very few vehicles around. Go figure!

 

[colinm]

It’s just a different way of taxing people. A pure con. If they are that worried about ‘pollution’ ban log burner fires as they give out as much as three diesel cars. In Edinburgh the pollution levels didn’t fall during lockdown even though there were very few vehicles around. Go figure!

Why is it that when I google 'Edinburgh pollution levels during lockdown' all the results come back saying there was a large reduction?

 

[trevskoda]

Why is it that when I google 'Edinburgh pollution levels during lockdown' all the results come back saying there was a large reduction?

Its a ploy to make you go buy electric cars.

 

[mark61]

Plans for a toll system in London are well on the way. It will replace both LEZ and ULEZ to include EV's.

You are not wanted on the roads in your own vehicle no matter how it's powered, sooner people understand that the better.

 

[alcam]

It’s just a different way of taxing people. A pure con. If they are that worried about ‘pollution’ ban log burner fires as they give out as much as three diesel cars. In Edinburgh the pollution levels didn’t fall during lockdown even though there were very few vehicles around. Go figure!

So vehicle pollution stayed the same with less vehicles ?
Can't figure that at all . Total mystery

 

[Drover]

They need to take a leaf out of the Maltese Government....
Free public transport for all...
Well all who hold a residency card....
Just dont try to travel at school opening or closing times.....its crazy.

 

[mark61]

So vehicle pollution stayed the same with less vehicles ?
Can't figure that at all . Total mystery

Owlhouse just used the word "pollution"

No wonder you can't figure it out if you misquoted.

 

[alcam]

Owlhouse just used the word "pollution"

No wonder you can't figure it out if you misquoted.

The context was pollution from vehicles .
But , if you like , 'pollution stayed the same with less vehicles' .
Still a mystery

 

[trevskoda]

They need to take a leaf out of the Maltese Government....
Free public transport for all...
Well all who hold a residency card....
Just dont try to travel at school opening or closing times.....its crazy.

So they just pollute with buses, but it would cut the traffic, then again I would always get the seat beside the big fat lady using up almost 2 seats.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

The transition to 'clean energy' is a long and painful process and we need fossil fuels to get us there.

All the policies and edicts seem to be 11th hour after years of not doing much about it - apart from wind farms, a tiny bit of tidal, and an exponential explosion in the production of solar panels - also now fitted onto nearly everything that moves!

So they just pollute with buses, but it would cut the traffic, then again I would always get the seat beside the big fat lady using up almost 2 seats.

Oi! You mind who you're talking to

This time of year when it gets cold I need me big winter knickers on

 

[alcam]

The transition to 'clean energy' is a long and painful process and we need fossil fuels to get us there.

All the policies and edicts seem to be 11th hour after years of not doing much about it - apart from wind farms, a tiny bit of tidal, and an exponential explosion in the production of solar panels - also now fitted onto nearly everything that moves!


Oi! You mind who you're talking to

This time of year when it gets cold I need me big winter knickers on

Time they harnessed the excess energy generated in winter knickers .
Wind power alone in mine would power a large village though I suspect the noise abatement society would not be happy

 

[barryd]

An interesting read on pollution in London during the pandemic.

The context was pollution from vehicles .
But , if you like , 'pollution stayed the same with less vehicles' .
Still a mystery

A good explanation here. Pollution from vehicles considerably dropped during Covid but there was a knock on effect that 03 Ozone levels rose. Presumably from people staying home, cooking, using power etc?

There are a lot of other factors at play apparently also. Weather, wind, pollutants from elsewhere.

No idea how credible the source is.

How Covid-19 lockdowns have affected air quality in London

www.frontier-economics.com

 

[Scotia]

Tea time rush !

 

[Drover]

So they just pollute with buses, but it would cut the traffic, then again I would always get the seat beside the big fat lady using up almost 2 seats.

No old buses left there that I could find, ( I would have bought one if I found one).
Us old un's get a seat as its law there that younger models have to move

 

[trevskoda]

The transition to 'clean energy' is a long and painful process and we need fossil fuels to get us there.

All the policies and edicts seem to be 11th hour after years of not doing much about it - apart from wind farms, a tiny bit of tidal, and an exponential explosion in the production of solar panels - also now fitted onto nearly everything that moves!


Oi! You mind who you're talking to

This time of year when it gets cold I need me big winter knickers on

Not if you lived with a big stallion like me.

 

[terry ward]

i was a london cab driver for 40 years if i was to go back driving i think i would have to do the knowledge again mr khant has ruined london i have 14 plate vw it will cost me £12 50 to leave my house

 

[trevskoda]

i was a london cab driver for 40 years if i was to go back driving i think i would have to do the knowledge again mr khant has ruined london i have 14 plate vw it will cost me £12 50 to leave my house

Use someone elses plate to escape.

 

[kensowerby]

Always thought London was a marvellous fantastic place in the 60s when I could see it in my rear view mirror coming home
No fun trying to get through the city centre with a d8 cat on a low loader and your police escort buggers off and leaves you stuck on vauxhall bridge at 10 0'clock in the morning.☹☹ often left stranded in the city in those days, you were classed as something that left a mucky mark on knickers

 

[GeoffL]

An interesting read on pollution in London during the pandemic.


A good explanation here. Pollution from vehicles considerably dropped during Covid but there was a knock on effect that 03 Ozone levels rose. Presumably from people staying home, cooking, using power etc?

There are a lot of other factors at play apparently also. Weather, wind, pollutants from elsewhere.

No idea how credible the source is.

How Covid-19 lockdowns have affected air quality in London

www.frontier-economics.com

Interesting read. Assuming there was no bias towards CAGW, the measurements are probably accurate. However, the same possibly cannot be said for the projections. I tried to find out the amount of sunshine in London in 2019 vs 2020 but ran out of time. If 2020 had significantly more sunshine, that alone could account for the decrease in NOX and increase in Ozone. ISTR also reading a piece that claimed microparticulate pollution increased during the colder lockdown months because the additional use of home heating more than offset the reduction from traffic. The latter being minimal because the amount of particulate pollution from traffic had a logarithmic relationship with traffic volume -- this because the majority of particulate pollution comes from resuspension.

 

[trevskoda]

Interesting read. Assuming there was no bias towards CAGW, the measurements are probably accurate. However, the same possibly cannot be said for the projections. I tried to find out the amount of sunshine in London in 2019 vs 2020 but ran out of time. If 2020 had significantly more sunshine, that alone could account for the decrease in NOX and increase in Ozone. ISTR also reading a piece that claimed microparticulate pollution increased during the colder lockdown months because the additional use of home heating more than offset the reduction from traffic. The latter being minimal because the amount of particulate pollution from traffic had a logarithmic relationship with traffic volume -- this because the majority of particulate pollution comes from resuspension.