Using the Motorhome as transport

[Kontiki]

Laws & rules aren't needed for sensible responsible people, if I drove somewhere in my camper I wouldn't park anywhere near another vehicle & would keep at least a 100 yards from anybody if we were out but I won't. The rules have to be for the idiots who think they know better, its the same as speeding limits, pretty much all experienced drivers could safely drive above the speed limits when conditions allow but there are inexperienced drivers & idiots who aren't safe at any speed so the laws have to be aimed at the lowest ability. That was why the message at the begining was wrong in recomending people 'should' stay at home where a better message would be MUST stay at home or you or your loved ones can DIE. People never took it serious enough at the begining, this virus can kill, thinking it was only old people with illness is & always the wrong message. In our town a 40 year old man with no known illness died alone in his flat after feeling unwell, my son in law had worked with him in the past. This virus is a killer & is as dangerous as any pandemic. We are in a war with a deadly enemy we can't see we have already lost when the first person died all we can do is limit the casulties. Sorry for being negative but I still think people consider this inconvenient but it is everybodys responsiblity that we don't catch it & become a statistic. Wash your hands properly & frequently this is the advice the daughter who is working in the NHS from a senior consultant.

 

[ricc]

ive just googled uk mortality rates, got the official monthly figures for england and wales , 2020 arnt available , ive looked back to 2016..... highest monthly figure was 64k in jan 2018 some summer months go down to high 30 ks , vast majority are in the 40ks.

 

[jpdlin]

I live in Scotland, very close to beauty spots, two weeks ago I took out van out for such a run, the carparks were busting with people, I haven't been out in it since, and I shan't until this whole thing is well and truly over. Any journey in any vehicle has to be considered essential under the terms laid out by Gov advice. We'll soon be experiencing a full lockdown like Italy.

 

[molly 2]

I will start my van at regular intervals .move the van up and down the drive to keep the clutch and brakes free , my drive is fairly steep so leaving hand brake off is a risk even with wheels chocked .having a dual mass fly seize up not good .

 

[yorkslass]

Laws & rules aren't needed for sensible responsible people, if I drove somewhere in my camper I wouldn't park anywhere near another vehicle & would keep at least a 100 yards from anybody if we were out but I won't. The rules have to be for the idiots who think they know better, its the same as speeding limits, pretty much all experienced drivers could safely drive above the speed limits when conditions allow but there are inexperienced drivers & idiots who aren't safe at any speed so the laws have to be aimed at the lowest ability. That was why the message at the begining was wrong in recomending people 'should' stay at home where a better message would be MUST stay at home or you or your loved ones can DIE. People never took it serious enough at the begining, this virus can kill, thinking it was only old people with illness is & always the wrong message. In our town a 40 year old man with no known illness died alone in his flat after feeling unwell, my son in law had worked with him in the past. This virus is a killer & is as dangerous as any pandemic. We are in a war with a deadly enemy we can't see we have already lost when the first person died all we can do is limit the casulties. Sorry for being negative but I still think people consider this inconvenient but it is everybodys responsiblity that we don't catch it & become a statistic. Wash your hands properly & frequently this is the advice the daughter who is working in the NHS from a senior consultant.

In some ways it's hardly surprising that the threat to health isn't taken seriously. An oft repeated phrase on the news is that for most people the symptoms are mild, not going to affect the young or healthy, so why would the numptys be concerned.......until it's their parents/grandparents who are struck down or deprived of treatment for other things that they can't have because all the resources are being directed towards this virus.

 

[RAW]

@Peter51 Has a good tale to tell on this one so maybe he will write it here. I won't spoil his yarn by writing about it.

For my own part I would love to take my Van out to somewhere isolated and be at a different location for walks and that but not sure it is worth the risk, not in terms of virus but in terms of the jobs worths and pillocks that think and believe they have some moral obligation to tell anyone they should not be out !!
These jobsworths and pillocks are far riskier than the Virus itself and it's lucky we don't have the same Gun rules as the USA, or those said folk they would probably taken to arms and started shooting people without any just cause !!

Partner is a a Key worker though so can move about fairly freely with her in a car.

 

[Nabsim]

In areas where crime levels are low the police will probably have more resources. On the news this morning the Derbyshire police were pouring black dye into the blue water of a beauty spot to deter people from going to take photographs.........It would be vandalism if anyone else had done that, wouldn't a sign have been enough ? Some policing will be too heavy handed, but as you say watch the media coverage. Derbyshire police seem to be very "enthusiastic" when they used a drone to film walkers a couple of days ago out on the moors ........Im sure there must have been bigger "gatherings" in town for them to worry about.

You never see them in town usually. Since police cuts started its rare there are more than a couple of officers on duty in Buxton on a Friday night. If you call they come from Belper.

 

[Nabsim]

@Peter51 Has a good tale to tell on this one so maybe he will write it here. I won't spoil his yarn by writing about it.

For my own part I would love to take my Van out to somewhere isolated and be at a different location for walks and that but not sure it is worth the risk, not in terms of virus but in terms of the jobs worths and pillocks that think and believe they have some moral obligation to tell anyone they should not be out !!
These jobsworths and pillocks are far riskier than the Virus itself and it's lucky we don't have the same Gun rules as the USA, or those said folk they would probably taken to arms and started shooting people without any just cause !!

Partner is a a Key worker though so can move about fairly freely with her in a car.

Ha ha, I said to Caz the other day shall I start taking pot shots of people walking by or cycling past. Let the townies stay in the towns and cities and leave us country folk to OUR countryside hahahahaha

 

[peter palance]

surely you just need to know where the supermarkets are so you can pick a plausable one to be heading for.

carry-ing a shoping bag,oh and moneys,p.s. dont go mad, ok.pj.

 

[Robmac]

@Peter51
Partner is a a Key worker though so can move about fairly freely with her in a car.

How so?

 

[RAW]

How so?

That would be telling

 

[Robmac]

I didn't think that 'key workers' could travel about freely, and even if they could I don't think that they should be taking passengers.

Or is this another wind up??

 

[2cv]

I certainly find it hard to understand why a very few think it clever to try to circumvent rules for their selfish convenience when we are all about to endure a period of many deaths, some of which could be prevented by obeying the rules set out.

 

[Robmac]

I certainly find it hard to understand why a very few think it clever to try to circumvent rules for their selfish convenience when we are all about to endure a period of many deaths, some of which could be prevented by obeying the rules set out.

He obviously didn't just watch the news report where they said as much.

They also said that if this continues stricter rules or full lockdown will come in due to the minority of abusers risking others lives.

 

[witzend]

my drive is fairly steep so leaving hand brake off is a risk even with wheels chocked .having a dual mass fly seize up not good .

Its the clutch that usually seizes I can't think of any reason thats more likely to happen witha DMF. Leaving the handbrake on tight enough to hold on a steep drive isn't good a couple of 6" chocs should do the job.

 

[molly 2]

Mainly the cost if it won't free off ,using low gear driving trick

 

[Kontiki]

Unfortunately some people think they are being clever bending the rules, have they got to have armed soldiers patrolling our streets before people get the message. Understand why some people might get confused, Boris saying not to go to the pub & the same day his dad on national TV saying he would carry on????? WTF.
In previous post I said I might have to use the camper to go to a funeral, might be able to borrow my daughters car who lives close by. She hasn't used it for a week she had to self isolate when she returned to the UK & will extend it for few days to help out. I will still be contacting the local police & funeral directors to see if we are allowed to attend. Things are changing daily, we are supposed to clear the mother in laws council bungalow & hand the keys in on the 26th April but nobody can tell us what the solution is. Doubt if we could even hire a van & no idea where can we take it.

 

[REC]

Unfortunately some people think they are being clever bending the rules, have they got to have armed soldiers patrolling our streets before people get the message. Understand why some people might get confused, Boris saying not to go to the pub & the same day his dad on national TV saying he would carry on????? WTF.
In previous post I said I might have to use the camper to go to a funeral, might be able to borrow my daughters car who lives close by. She hasn't used it for a week she had to self isolate when she returned to the UK & will extend it for few days to help out. I will still be contacting the local police & funeral directors to see if we are allowed to attend. Things are changing daily, we are supposed to clear the mother in laws council bungalow & hand the keys in on the 26th April but nobody can tell us what the solution is. Doubt if we could even hire a van & no idea where can we take it.

Must be so hard for you. At a difficult time, everything is made more complicated and nobody knows the answers! Everyone is learning on the job! Hope things work out for you.

 

[trevskoda]

No funeral parties or grave gathering allowed here or hospital visits even for the diying.

 

[Deleted member 64209]

IF the main thing is that we keep 2 metres away from other humans, also that there is no fuel crisis would somebody please tell me why driving anywhere is dodgy? By the same token it's not always easy to maintain a 2 metre space on a busy pavement and wisely no-one is being nicked due to same circumstance, however I could get pinched if I visited rural Derbyshire keeping hundreds of yards away from anyone.

Personally I reckon I could cough or sneeze more than 2 metres if I was that careless so to do. A sudden sneeze with carrier bags of bogrolls in each hand on a busy high street could well spread something but surely the more considerate person driving to a quieter village to add to their stockpile could potentially spend less time on the pavement walking to a shop passing less people....?

I reckon this is won't be over for many many months and those of us that survive will find ourselves under more surveillance and regimentation then when it started. Glad I'm on the way out in any case!

And, perhaps a tad off-topic what utter heroes NHS staff are, thank you, thank you and thank you again...