Using the Motorhome as transport

Robmac

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IF the main thing is that we keep 2 metres away from other humans, also that there is no fuel crisis would somebody please tell me why driving anywhere is dodgy? By the same token it's not always easy to maintain a 2 metre space on a busy pavement and wisely no-one is being nicked due to same circumstance, however I could get pinched if I visited rural Derbyshire keeping hundreds of yards away from anyone.

Personally I reckon I could cough or sneeze more than 2 metres if I was that careless so to do. A sudden sneeze with carrier bags of bogrolls in each hand on a busy high street could well spread something but surely the more considerate person driving to a quieter village to add to their stockpile could potentially spend less time on the pavement walking to a shop passing less people....?

I reckon this is won't be over for many many months and those of us that survive will find ourselves under more surveillance and regimentation then when it started. Glad I'm on the way out in any case!

And, perhaps a tad off-topic what utter heroes NHS staff are, thank you, thank you and thank you again...
I'm not sure the residents of that quiet village would agree with you. Especially the ones who rely on the village shop for their provisions which are already in short supply.

But I don't think it is dodgy driving to the shops. That is what most of us do.

The main problem is driving 20 or more miles say to a beach to get the daily exercise. Many are doing it when there is no need to. Also driving needs to be kept to a minimum - necessary journeys. Everyday there are traffic accidents, these have to be dealt with by the emergency services putting them at risk and also further stretching the NHS. You are far more likely to have an accident driving 20-30 miles than 2 miles down to the local shops.

I do agree with you about the NHS though, yes, utter heroes.
 

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Hmmm, my nearest shop is 6 miles away. Until this I hardy ever drove and used the bus for errands trying to be a Greeny. Hogs cleared that shop out and as I also shop for even older than me neighbours I had little option to drive to my local Tescos 15 miles away where the queues were right around the car park....[By the way, the first person I saw in Tescos car park was laden down with... wait for it... bog rolls]... So, should I have used the bus to get to Tescos and perhaps had no option but to sit next to someone and or maybe give anyone on the bus whatever I may or may not have? Or drive to avoid that risk but then incur the wrath of whoever as I gave up on my local shop...? That wee dilemma I put down to stupid greedy inconsiderable fools...

Apparently 50% of car crunches happen within 5 miles of home.. Oh well, keep yer heads down folks...
 

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Hmmm, my nearest shop is 6 miles away. Until this I hardy ever drove and used the bus for errands trying to be a Greeny. Hogs cleared that shop out and as I also shop for even older than me neighbours I had little option to drive to my local Tescos 15 miles away where the queues were right around the car park....[By the way, the first person I saw in Tescos car park was laden down with... wait for it... bog rolls]... So, should I have used the bus to get to Tescos and perhaps had no option but to sit next to someone and or maybe give anyone on the bus whatever I may or may not have? Or drive to avoid that risk but then incur the wrath of whoever as I gave up on my local shop...? That wee dilemma I put down to stupid greedy inconsiderable fools...

Apparently 50% of car crunches happen within 5 miles of home.. Oh well, keep yer heads down folks...
Everybody's circumstances are different. Like I say, only necessary journeys and if a necessary journey is 15 miles then so be it. Nobody is asking you to use the bus.

I too live in a village without any shops so I have to drive 4 miles to Tesco, there are nearer shops (slightly), but only small with limited range. I do use them though for small shops and always have.

Again as I said, the main objection is people travelling long distances to beaches etc under the guise of walking the dog or taking their daily exercise.
 
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IF the main thing is that we keep 2 metres away from other humans, also that there is no fuel crisis would somebody please tell me why driving anywhere is dodgy? By the same token it's not always easy to maintain a 2 metre space on a busy pavement and wisely no-one is being nicked due to same circumstance, however I could get pinched if I visited rural Derbyshire keeping hundreds of yards away from anyone.

Personally I reckon I could cough or sneeze more than 2 metres if I was that careless so to do. A sudden sneeze with carrier bags of bogrolls in each hand on a busy high street could well spread something but surely the more considerate person driving to a quieter village to add to their stockpile could potentially spend less time on the pavement walking to a shop passing less people....?

I reckon this is won't be over for many many months and those of us that survive will find ourselves under more surveillance and regimentation then when it started. Glad I'm on the way out in any case!

And, perhaps a tad off-topic what utter heroes NHS staff are, thank you, thank you and thank you again...
i have noticed that whilst walking on local streets social distancing has been much easier due to the lack of traffic. Only one selfish individual driving unnecessarily could lead to a virus transmission and lost life. Just stick to the rules and save lives. NHS workers are dying, can’t people just follow some simple rules and stop being selfish.
 

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We have a trauma consultant next door, an anaesthetist, specialist in resuscitation, also first responder for our part of the Peak District, in the mountain rescue, and a helicopter medic. He’s regularly called out to sort out the idiots, or the unwitting, who all too quite amazingly frequently get themselves into a pickle on our country roads, misjudging bends, overtaking daftly, falling off their bikes, breaking legs and ankles in the hills, and so on. If non-residents stay away then there’s only a miniscule fraction of the normal traffic left. So he and his colleagues can concentrate on keeping Coronavirus victims alive at the teaching hospital in Sheffield. It’s 15 miles to the nearest hospital from here. Every accident or mishap ties him up, paramedics, ambulances, police, often fire brigade, for whom it can be a 30 mile round trip to attend a single incident and can take up many man-hours. Every extra car, bike or person increases the likelihood that essential personnel will be diverted from fighting Coronavirus.

If you are not part of the solution then you become part of the problem, a small part maybe, but multiplied by the many it becomes a big problem.

Use your common sense, if you can’t walk to a shop, or pharmacy obviously you may have no option but to drive. It’s essential to eat, it’s nice to walk in the country, but it ain’t essential.

So the answer is bugger off, don’t come, we don’t want you here! If you live here already you should know the score already.

Finally, whilst I can sympathise why many think the Derbyshire Police over-reacted, their blunt instrument seems to have been very effective, it’s thankfully one hell of a lot quieter here this weekend.
 

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@Peter51 Has a good tale to tell on this one so maybe he will write it here. I won't spoil his yarn by writing about it.

For my own part I would love to take my Van out to somewhere isolated and be at a different location for walks and that but not sure it is worth the risk, not in terms of virus but in terms of the jobs worths and pillocks that think and believe they have some moral obligation to tell anyone they should not be out !!
These jobsworths and pillocks are far riskier than the Virus itself and it's lucky we don't have the same Gun rules as the USA, or those said folk they would probably taken to arms and started shooting people without any just cause !!

Partner is a a Key worker though so can move about fairly freely with her in a car. ;)
Ooo I better change the habit of a lifetime and write something. I drove in my camper about 5 miles to an empty layby on the moors with the intention of going on a walk round the reservoirs, an easy high level walk on a cold but sunny day. As I left the van a cyclists started to shout at me that I was in breech of the rules by using the van to reach the layby. As I walked a little towards him (still a good 4 metres away) to have a discussion his shouting got louder, I tried to ask him what the difference between me being there for a walk and his being there for a cycle was, I also wondered where he had cycled from, probably Manchester or somewhere, he had a top of the range cycle (it only had 4 spokes on each wheel). The more I tried to have a friendly discussion the more angry he became, he was obviously terrified and I decided I could not trust him to not throw a stone through the window I drove off and abandoned the walk.
So there we are - strange times. I suppose.
The absurdity of the angry and blindly hypocritical (or cognitively dysfunctional as we call it these days) cyclist did make me realise that one mans common sense could be seen by another as a dangerous rule infringement.
I will be walking from home in the future, I am lucky to live in a place where I can walk to isolated places from my house and I will stick to this in future!
 

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iandsm and others, this is a wind up right, which bit of STAY IN DOORS are you not getting???

Just before this all got into gear I picked up a new M/H and there it has sat on the drive ever since, I haven't even gone and put stuff in it. Why because it is not essential!! Driving 20 miles to take the dog out is not essential. Find somewhere closer. I to have dogs and they are getting board of the same local walks but that is just tough. Driving potentially puts other people at risk. My daughter got side swiped by an impatient a*** joining A34, only 3 cars in sight. But she was seen by 12 different folk. At an ratio of 2.6 ish that puts an additional 30+ people at risk. DON'T do it stay in doors. If you want some encouragement there is a great song out there called Stay the F*** indoors. Heed it we will all benefit
 
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DON'T do it stay in doors. If you want some encouragement there is a great song out there called Stay the F*** indoors.
I posted that song in the Jokes section after seeing it on 'This Morning' today, 59 views but only 4 'likes', a lot of comments nothing to do with the song though, at least it gets people talking I suppose
 

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I certainly find it hard to understand why a very few think it clever to try to circumvent rules for their selfish convenience when we are all about to endure a period of many deaths, some of which could be prevented by obeying the rules set out.
Its not difficult to understand. They are simply selfish and self centered and don't give a f-ck about anyone other than themselves.
 

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OK, I'll not go out, not shop for three of my neighbours one of whom is diabetic, with an average age of 70 years. Also another old chap, he's 70, lives on his own with only a genny and battery pack for electricity at the back of beyond and another family that seem to be petrified of what's going on and rely on me and a couple of others to get them some supplies. The hell I won't give up on them, I will continue to drive and help those just a whisker older than myself for as long as I can and as best I can.
 

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OK, I'll not go out, not shop for three of my neighbours one of whom is diabetic, with an average age of 70 years. Also another old chap, he's 70, lives on his own with only a genny and battery pack for electricity at the back of beyond and another family that seem to be petrified of what's going on and rely on me and a couple of others to get them some supplies. The hell I won't give up on them, I will continue to drive and help those just a whisker older than myself for as long as I can and as best I can.
Nobody has said you should stop!

Only those who flout the rules which you're not.
 

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I have just SORNED My Van and it is getting covered up with its custom-made cover so the local yobbos will not get at it easily in the garden with rocks etc.
I also have custom boarding for the house lower floor windows for the same reasons. I expect a lot of trouble in a couple of weeks time.
 

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I have just SORNED My Van and it is getting covered up with its custom-made cover so the local yobbos will not get at it easily in the garden with rocks etc.
I also have custom boarding for the house lower floor windows for the same reasons. I expect a lot of trouble in a couple of weeks time.
It must be awful to live in fear all the time, I feel sorry for you and your family.
 

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They do it now sometimes but in case of real trouble it would get worse, I live on a through road.
 
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OK, I'll not go out, not shop for three of my neighbours one of whom is diabetic, with an average age of 70 years. Also another old chap, he's 70, lives on his own with only a genny and battery pack for electricity at the back of beyond and another family that seem to be petrified of what's going on and rely on me and a couple of others to get them some supplies. The hell I won't give up on them, I will continue to drive and help those just a whisker older than myself for as long as I can and as best I can.
As stated for some people there is a need to leave home, also the daily exercise is a must - if folk don't exercise then even more pressure will be put on an already apparently over-stretched NHS. My Sister works for the NHS and my Partner for the Police and so I have some knowledge of what is going on behind the scenes, yet I think this current pandemic is potentially going to bring on some economic disaster potentially for both the UK and the US.

The streets are deserted; many businesses are closed (including the one I work for, but thankfully I have been furloughed) and so the economy is sliding to the floor. UK was in a time of austerity and now will be in a time of intense borrowing, wish I had put more time into prepping in some ways, anyhow if anyone is interested in that side of things the Netflix Series "Doomsday Preppers" is pretty good if you want something to watch, www.netflix.com/gb/title/80001101 (now in it's second series)

Stay safe everyone, whether inside or outside
 

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They do it now sometimes but in case of real trouble it would get worse, I live on a through road.
Sounds shockingly sh1te, what part of the World do you live in ?

I am lucky in that I live in a place where the Yob culture is in a minority.
 

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