The demise of Lpg stations

molly 2

molly 2

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As LPG stations are closing can you go back calor , how would you be affected .Many new motorhomes come with underslung LPG tanks and no facility to revert to bottles . my heavy usage of gas is in winter .so running 6 klg bottles would very costly .Fitting a cheap diesel heater would help .MH manufacturers seem blind to the fact that refillable LPG could soon be a thing of the past .??? How would you overcome the problem ..
 
Same around Teesside where I live.
3 Petrol stations recently refurbished have taken out lpg. Pleased I live near a Calor depot which has recently refurbished the lpg fill bay and has no plans to stop selling auto gas.
Bonus is it’s the cheapest I have found within miles of my home.
 
Back on topic -

Although a lot of fuel stations are ceasing sale of "loose" LPG, the gas suppliers will continue to sell it. This makes it awkward and impractical for running a car - hence why I've gone back to a diesel car - but if you plan your routes in your campervan/motorhome you should be able to find it to fuel your habitation needs. Providing you don't go to north Scotland.

Re cost of bottles - years ago I used Budget Gas (local to Shropshire and West Mids area) in my caravans as it was quite a bit cheaper than Calor, but Calor own them now. Flogas was an alternative but looking at their online prices, they are similar to Calor. Got a 3.9Kg propane last week and it was only 21p more expensive than a Flogas one would have been.

Calor have us by the short and curlies.
 
I too run diesel vehicles & will continue to do so wherever possible. Too much £$%^ spoken about every mode of transport that exists, so I ignore it all & just go with what suits me..
 
jagmanx said:
I would happily spend more time in UK but
1 Limited Wild-camping and associated hassle (TROs)
2 Limited LPG
3 Height barriers even for a lunch stop etc
4 Few P&R accept motorhomes
5 Limited disposal of Cassette / Grey water/ Rubbish
6 Fresh water is just OK
Thus for us ..I rest my case !
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There are a hell of a lot of people who manage perfectly well in the UK!

On LPG:


Do you use this? Loads on there.
 
st3v3 said:
There are a hell of a lot of people who manage perfectly well in the UK!

On LPG:


Do you use this? Loads on there.
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Spot on.....

I've yet to have an issue.... BUT then I tend to seek solitude and studiously avoid popular honey spots
And or places where I'm even likely to be noticed, let alone raise anyone's hackles....
If we wish to stop in a location for a longer period than a night or 2 at a push (and we don't stay parked up with awning and chairs out etc)
Then we book onto a site.... Either CL/CS or a larger site IF its one that suits us (no club house or pool etc etc)

Some LPG fills may be lost BUT I can usually work around that (far north of Scotland could be an issue in winter)
But that'll change when I fit the eberspacher and go back to only needing gas for cooking.....
If it gets really bad then it'll be back to calor bottles etc....

Life really is too short to be worrying at times ;-)
 
channa said:
Calor 6 kg propane at £23.50 there needs be a solution
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Bugger that, I fill my spare 6kg bottles at Morrisons for under £7 each.
I can’t see the solution, those assholes have got us by the cobblers.
LPG in Morocco is under 15p per litre, if anyone says it’s distribution costs, bollox!
 
GreggBear said:
Why is LPG in decline? Its only 2 bloody minutes since the powers that be hailed it as the way forward! Sound familiar?.....
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Why is it on the way out when we were told it’s the clean way to go?
Anyone know the emission figures of vehicles running on LPG?
 
Just another lie to get everyone spending money. The government are no better than some slick marketing company now, fill your head with whatever bullshit best furthers their current cause. No more interested in the welfare of you & I than the man in the moon.....😡😕
 
spigot said:
Why is it on the way out when we were told it’s the clean way to go?
Anyone know the emission figures of vehicles running on LPG?
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its on the way out because sales have fallen to a level that is not profitable For garage's to sell it . Modern petrol vehicles full of electronics etc , is it practical or possible to convert to LPG ????.
 
molly 2 said:
its on the way out because sales have fallen to a level that is not profitable For garage's to sell it . Modern petrol vehicles full of electronics etc , is it practical or possible to convert to LPG ????.
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Yes Garages/Petrol stations are going down the EV route
EV safer and maybe less to install/maintain and will be more profitable
 
I guess the way forward could be ( as you say )
Heating by Diesel and maybe Cooking by diesel
If you could do both then Red diesel in the gas locker!
But when will diesel not be available ? (not at all soon)
Seems about £1500 for a diesel Hob (2 burners)
 
I am looking forwards and think that diesel heating is probably the way.

Gas, either refillable or perhaps later ,back to exchange bottles will continue to supply my hob, fridge, and heat up water for showering. Those do not use very much, 11 kilos can last me a month. it is the heating that is by far my biggest consumer.

Last time I looked only 400 new LPG bi-fuel vehicles had been registered (2018). You cannot buy a new one nowadays, sure there are still converters out there and one or two companies that specialise in e.g motorhome tank installations and other stuff. It is a dying market in the UK, demand from us for domestic use is a tiny drop in the ocean. Supply is predicated on demand for road fuel which is no longer there. Enjoy it whilst it lasts, but if thinking of installing a new system, take a long term view. And if operating a business dedicated to supplying and installing this kit, likewise.

A shame, because as a road fuel it has some advantages, but also some downsides. The marketplace has turned against it, after some early enthusiasm. Things may be different in other countries, but in the UK that's just how it is, and I don't see it changing.

Forecourt pumps will be coming out when it's time to time to replace/repair/upgrade, unless they are actually still profitable to operate. I don't see any new ones going in, nevermind an expansion of the network.
 
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