Incident at C&MC site Culloden Moor

[Sharon the Cat]

Funnily enough I used to stay at another marina up Robmac's way, where my brother moored his boat. It too was immaculate. Do people respect loos more if their investment is higher?

 

[antiquesam]

Funnily enough I used to stay at another marina up Robmac's way, where my brother moored his boat. It too was immaculate. Do people respect loos more if their investment is higher?

Probably just that they've been brought up proper.

 

[mickymost]

I really think you should get out more.

What out of the Toilet

 

[Robmac]

Funnily enough I used to stay at another marina up Robmac's way, where my brother moored his boat. It too was immaculate. Do people respect loos more if their investment is higher?

I'm moored at Crosshall Marina in St Neots at the moment Sharon and the facilities there are immaculate and the grounds are kept pristine.

I think it may be because the main users are members who pay for their moorings and respect the facilities and their guests treat them with equal respect because they don't want to embarrass/let down their boat owning friends/relatives. With only one or two exceptions every marina I have ever visited have been similar.

 

[mickymost]

I had a pm from op and I am replying in open not pm) brian

I also had a PM from OP and replied to him in PM. I feel he really feels strongly about the point he is trying to make here relating to his refund,and what with the new rules on this forum probably doesnt want to post anything in the open Forum on this thread where he doesnt agree with us which could get him banned.Just to say his PM was him explaining his feelings to me relating to Covid and he expressed to me he feels there is no chance of catching anything on a campsite Covid related due to the low figures.I feel the opposite to this and feel one could catch it anywhere.

I have said openly on this thread how I feel.Either DONT GO to campsite or if you cant resist that urge eating away at you like a kid needing a sweetshop then by all means go BUT use your own facilities and keep safe.

Michael

 

[mickymost]

Your original thread said 200 people who had paid to use the toilet facility. Had been denied. You did not mention anything about most not using the facilities but using there own You did mention long queues in the morning. So by your original thread one must presume 200 paid for toilet facility and were denied access even though a lot of them did not want access. Now I am confused(i in case any one does not understand my thread I had a pm from op and I am replying in open not pm) brian

I am also confused a little by what the OP wants to achieve as these are unusual times.He did say 200 needed and used 1 toilet which is outrageous.Going by this figure if each person took 5 minutes in the toilet (some would take a lot longer) but at 5 minutes each then it would have taken over 16 hours i/e two days to complete their business so doesnt add up.



Michael

 

[Sharon the Cat]

I'm moored at Crosshall Marina in St Neots at the moment Sharon and the facilities there are immaculate and the grounds are kept pristine.

I think it may be because the main users are members who pay for their moorings and respect the facilities and their guests treat them with equal respect because they don't want to embarrass/let down their boat owning friends/relatives. With only one or two exceptions every marina I have ever visited have been similar.

It was Crosshall I used to stay at. My brother bought his Hardy Pilot whilst it was moored there & kept it there for a couple of years, then moved it to a marina on Chichester Harbour. The grounds at Crosshall are gorgeous, beautifully kept.

 

[antiquesam]

I fear for society if people feel they can't express their views in a civilised manner without fearing banishment. This is happening right through the country with universities banning speakers because they don't agree with their views.

 

[Robmac]

It was Crosshall I used to stay at. My brother bought his Hardy Pilot whilst it was moored there & kept it there for a couple of years, then moved it to a marina on Chichester Harbour. The grounds at Crosshall are gorgeous, beautifully kept.

I'm actually moored next to a Hardy Pilot at the moment Sharon and I recently owned one before buying my present boat. I really miss the Hardy - a proper boat, but the headroom was just a little too low for me.

I've been moored at Crosshall on and off for 30 years now so possibly knew your brother. It's a lovely place to be, in fact I've been down there this morning just for a mooch about in a pleasant place. The clubhouse was known to stay open until daylight at times as well!

 

[landoboguy]

I fear for society if people feel they can't express their views in a civilised manner without fearing banishment. This is happening right through the country with universities banning speakers because they don't agree with their views.

So do I feel for people not being able to express their opinion without being accused of genecide
whats the old saying, please ensure brain is engaged putting your mouth into gear.

I too had a PM from the OP, even though I thought my post said it all and was as objective as I could make it, I took the time to explain it in more detail to avoid upset.
And Ill say again, I value all of Bills posts on here

 

[mickymost]

And Ill say again, I value all of Bills posts on here

I also Value Bills posts, he always talks sense is level headed and seems like a fair person in his outlook.But as others I feel he is not going to post much on Wildcamping in the near future as he doesnt like the way things are on here just now.

 

[st3v3]

You want to be careful taking pics in public loos

I've only ever had a problem in the ladies.

I really think you should get out more.

It's a pub, I was out lol

 

[mickymost]

I've only ever had a problem in the ladies.



It's a pub, I was out lol

At least it wasnt a Council "public toilet" Steve lol

 

[Val54]

Just to bring this thread back on track, I had a look at the recent feedback on the CMC website for this site. Two conclusions, the wardens weren't/ aren't coping and possibly the facilities themselves have ongoing issues without the damage caused by persons unknown. I'm guessing the damage was the final straw and the wardens refused to deal with it. Sounds like a "perfect storm" handled very badly both by on-site staff and the CMC management. Here's an example of the feedback ......

"Have used this site twice yearly for some years. Excellent location,used to be immaculate (all be it with a couple of very tight corners).Now has a shabby and neglected air. Grass poorly maintained, weedy pitches and poorly maintained paintwork.Female warden agitated and not coping with the job, agree with previous critical comments.Female toilets (2) overflowing and not checked at 6pm.Not Covid safe and definitely not at all to Club standards.Will not be back."

 

[witzend]

What out of the Toilet

Toilets locked and there's 200 queuing for it

 

[antiquesam]

Toilets locked and there's 200 queuing for it

And he's messing about in there taking pictures. Lucky it wasn't a feature film.

 

[REC]

It is so sad that people are not supported properly doing any job. I would assume that they were just not able to cope if the posted review is anything to go by. The complaint brought by the OP needs to be properly addressed since he feels aggrieved by the poor communication, not to mention facilities closed. The lack of empathy for the other campers was unnecessary and, as always happens, makes a bad situation worse. The issue of whether he should be there is really beside the point. If the campsite is open, a service should be provided . The CMC would be better to accept that there were several issues, that it was not necessarily dealt with well and apologise properly. Covid risk assessments don't have to be done if less than five employees but a good management would produce one anyway in order to support their staff, hopefully they will look at what happened on this site and have a plan to prevent recurrence. A goodwill gesture might help appease but not hopeful that it will be forthcoming.

 

[vindiboy]

When we bought our vans we made sure that each and every one of them had an adequate shower ,and toilet facilities aboard, this is a must have for us , I would hate to shower in a communal shower and use the sit down facilities in the same , don't mind a stand up pee but even this is not often a great experience .

 

[REC]

When we bought our vans we made sure that each and every one of them had an adequate shower ,and toilet facilities aboard, this is a must have for us , I would hate to shower in a communal shower and use the sit down facilities in the same , don't mind a stand up pee but even this is not often a great experience .

We decided not to have a shower for several reasons, although we do have a toilet. I do think that if a site offers the facilities, they should be clean & safe...and it is the choice of the individual whether they wish to use them in these times. Don't understand why some people have become so careless ( and even deliberately misuse) since Covid....it seems to have brought out the worse in some individuals and is so sad.

 

[Val54]

It is so sad that people are not supported properly doing any job. I would assume that they were just not able to cope if the posted review is anything to go by. The complaint brought by the OP needs to be properly addressed since he feels aggrieved by the poor communication, not to mention facilities closed. The lack of empathy for the other campers was unnecessary and, as always happens, makes a bad situation worse. The issue of whether he should be there is really beside the point. If the campsite is open, a service should be provided . The CMC would be better to accept that there were several issues, that it was not necessarily dealt with well and apologise properly. Covid risk assessments don't have to be done if less than five employees but a good management would produce one anyway in order to support their staff, hopefully they will look at what happened on this site and have a plan to prevent recurrence. A goodwill gesture might help appease but not hopeful that it will be forthcoming.

Absolutely right Ruth, we can only surmise from the other reviews of the site that toilets in both sections were overflowing and that someone had kicked down the cubicle door(s) to find a working toilet, possibly leaving doors hanging off etc. So I get that there might have been a crisis but the response was diabolical. There must have been the option of calling in outside help, either from area managers or private contractors. To simply opt to close the toilets and not spend money sorting the problem out before the next morning is unacceptable but typical of CMC. I hope the OP gets a proper response.