Incident at C&MC site Culloden Moor

Sharon the Cat said:
Recently seen in a pub in Emsworth. They were so officious & over the top when we went in I wouldn't bother again but this really made me laugh. The courtyard gents had been turned into a unisex loo with 2 stalls appropriately marked. A very good idea to stop people having to walk through the pub but I can imagine the games some guys would play with this after a few too many beers!

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Anyone remember Green wing? 😂

 
I just remembered, I actually took a pic of it. It's even a real wall, not just a partition...

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We stayed at Moreton on Marsh just after they opened up and was impressed with the armband system. Three bands were in a bucket of Milton's at the entrance to the ablutions. You took a band and put it back in the bucket on the way out. Queues to get in were orderly despite the fact that the site must have had 200 units. Even the mobile chip shop and pizza baker worked.
 
antiquesam said:
To visit and pay for a stay on a site with facilities and not use them is your prerogative, but others may well feel that they wish to, or need to use them.
Your attitude of make everyone suffer for the odd offender is a bit like these despots who have, in the the not too distant past, shot everyone in a village for the sins of one person. We called that a war crime.
If you charge for a service you should endeavour to provide it or accept that you are breaking the terms of your contract and recompense those people.
We've stayed in two hotels since they've opened up and they explain in advance that your room will not be cleaned during your stay and that new towels will be left at the door and the dirty ones should be left in the bathroom. You know in advance and the choice is yours.
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For goodness sake, we are talking about a closed toilet
Your attitude of make everyone suffer for the odd offender is a bit like these despots who have, in the the not too distant past, shot everyone in a village for the sins of one person. We called that a war crime.
 
mariesnowgoose said:
I would wager that one of the biggest problems they are currently having to deal with, on top of the virus, are staff shortages (wardens).

I would also wager that the head office management are pretty remote from the 'sharp end' during 'normal' times, It's caused major headaches even for businesses that are savvy and more in touch with what they're supposed to be doing.

Definitely a touch of the 'ivory towers' about the club management, or so I'm told by those who know.
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Wardens especially older ones not going to be forthcoming.Younger guys couldnt live on a Warden Wage unless they are full time Vanlifers who dont mind earning just a little and having a Hook up and a Site included in the deal.
Main management not at "coal face" and now due to Covid19 away from danger.Probably sat at home remote working but happy to send down orders,and collect a lovely salary.
 
phase3begins said:
For goodness sake, we are talking about a closed toilet
Your attitude of make everyone suffer for the odd offender is a bit like these despots who have, in the the not too distant past, shot everyone in a village for the sins of one person. We called that a war crime.
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The principle is the same, some of us would consider death and the need to go in a similar way.
 
Your original thread said 200 people who had paid to use the toilet facility. Had been denied. You did not mention anything about most not using the facilities but using there own You did mention long queues in the morning. So by your original thread one must presume 200 paid for toilet facility and were denied access even though a lot of them did not want access. Now I am confused(i in case any one does not understand my thread I had a pm from op and I am replying in open not pm) brian
 
Interesting reading on today. Our boss is happy to take the money and thinks he is keeping us safe. He panics about his own safety but looks bemused when I talk about ours.

We could leave yes and seriously it has nearly come to that.

All the Covid Saftey is down to me and luckily I have cleaned before so no mops from toilets being cleaned out in washing up sinks. There is a colour coded moping and cloth system as well.

Things I did not know are when we sterilising surfaces it needs to stay on for more than 20 seconds wipe on wipe of is doing no good. Put the toilet seat down when flushing. We need to shower after every clean. That’s three times a day. ( we wear overalls, gloves, masks and goggles ) and now I read steam as in shower rooms holds the virus.

I read the government guidelines and still do, I wrote our rules based on that. If I had not I dread to think what we would be exposed to. He doesn’t need any risk assessment as under 5 employees. I tried to stop group bookingsthat’s our biggest problem.

Now the harsh bit all season we have had groups over 6 saying we are a bubble and laughing at us. We had a charity event say the same. ( I now look at them and say really and we are cleaning your toilets ) People clean their teeth in the pot washing up area and wash their children. The hand washing sinks get used by the children not many adults. People are peeing in the showers and wiping pooh up the toilet walls. I have caught one man using the water tap to clean his toilet cassette. We don’t allow visitors but hey we spend our days asking them to leave. It’s funny how many people now live together, for us it’s not.
And two metres what is that no one knows.
The thing is cleaning toilets is now a very different job and I see no change in the future. So we do it and keep ourselves as safe as possible.

My advice again use your own facilities I see people’s disgusting behaviour every day.

Thank you Marie for calling your friends send my best regards from a fellow toilet cleaners.
Oh yes and grumpy wardens on occasions we are only human ...
 
witzend said:
In this present time Why would 200 people want to use the same toilet.:unsure: In normal times we always use our own facility's
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It's all that humping water after a shower and trying to get rid of the lumpy bits from the cassette when you're paying for constantly running water and a flushing lavatory.
 
I can't help but think a simple text to all campers explaining the reason for closure, would have been a courteous thing to do. Communication is key when dealing with the public.
 
antiquesam said:
To visit and pay for a stay on a site with facilities and not use them is your prerogative, but others may well feel that they wish to, or need to use them.
Your attitude of make everyone suffer for the odd offender is a bit like these despots who have, in the the not too distant past, shot everyone in a village for the sins of one person. We called that a war crime.
If you charge for a service you should endeavour to provide it or accept that you are breaking the terms of your contract and recompense those people.
We've stayed in two hotels since they've opened up and they explain in advance that your room will not be cleaned during your stay and that new towels will be left at the door and the dirty ones should be left in the bathroom. You know in advance and the choice is yours.
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Thats fine, and Im just posting what I would do and as I paid for my facilities when I bought my motorhome it isn't a problem. I wont argue your opinion of my actions would be and is also your opinion, I have my reasons and you have yours.

I wouldnt say shooting everyone in the village was a good analogy though ;) cmon....a bit extreme that one ! war crime wow.

Making everyone in the village cross their legs or go home in case someone contracts covid and spreads it round the country = deaths for me isnt the same as a "war crime" Im beginning to see now why Phil has decided to stop moderating this forum. As soon as anyone posts a difference of opinion some members take it to the extreme (like you in this case) war crime ha ha.

I didnt attack the OP, I put my pov across, I actually think fishermans posts are spot on, and yes the club need to get it sorted, then you coming on to me and calling me a war criminal :eek::eek::p

If I can just sum up my last post here, in my eyes what you are saying is they should say

"hey open the toilets and risk infection because we have paid for these facilities" which means in my eyes these peope are no different than any other spreading the virus . How to stop it, close the problem !

I am friends with a well respected 150 pitch site in Wales, and the stories he ahs told me about "us" and the things some of "us" complain about is a joke in these times.

Anyway, Im off to shoot some villager who didnt obey the rules.

enjoy, and remember if 5 of you dont like what others say (me) then 5 post reports auto deletes the post. Just like some despot shoting villagers and ruining the chance to see the whole posts for everyone else = dead forum run by they who run together .
 
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landoboguy said:
Thats fine, and Im just posting what I would do and as I paid for my facilities when I bought my motorhome it isn't a problem. I wont argue your opinion of my actions would be and is also your opinion, I have my reasons and you have yours.

I wouldnt say shooting everyone in the village was a good analogy though ;) cmon....a bit extreme that one ! war crime wow.

Making everyone in the village cross their legs or go home in case someone contracts covid and spreads it round the country = deaths for me isnt the same as a "war crime" Im beginning to see now why Phil has decided to stop moderating this forum. As soon as anyone posts a difference of opinion some members take it to the extreme (like you in this case) war crime ha ha.

I didnt attack the OP, I put my pov across, I actually think fishermans posts are spot on, and yes the club need to get it sorted, then you coming on to me and calling me a war criminal :eek::eek::p

If I can just sum up my last post here, in my eyes what you are saying is they should say

"hey open the toilets and risk infection because we have paid for these facilities" which means in my eyes these peope are no different than any other spreading the virus . How to stop it, close the problem !

I am friends with a well respected 150 pitch site in Wales, and the stories he ahs told me about "us" and the things some of "us" complain about is a joke inthese times.

Amyway, Im off to shoot some villager who didnt obey the rules.

enjoy, and remember if 5 of you dont like what others say (me) then 5 post reports auto deletes the post. Just like some despot shoting villagers and ruining the chance to see the whole posts for everyone else = dead forum run by they who run together .
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That got you thinking though. I was using Extinction Rebellion and BLM tactics.
 
Landoboguy well put. Definite thumbs up. Everyone has an opinion (as I say. Right wrong indifferent. R W I ) A club I belong to has a member that cannot be wrong. Only one way to do things. His way. ( no not me)). We have done things in front of him to show that there is more then one way to do say something. His reply is your wrong here is how to do say it. Some people cannot accept other people have an opinion. I believe that includes me occasionally. Sometimes I will think why on earth did they say that. They had there reason. Brian
 
antiquesam said:
It's all that humping water after a shower and trying to get rid of the lumpy bits from the cassette when you're paying for constantly running water and a flushing lavatory.
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You should look at it as part of your fitness regime ..... 🤔😂😂
 
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