I don't like or want a dinette Colin, which you pointed out in #50, it isn't a place to lounge for us, you CANNOT lounge in a dinette as it too upright, for us anyway, we have had a few vans with them, but bigger than I would want now, then end up as a catch all for coats etc. used for a few minutes a day, but take a lot of the vans length up. I'm not telling people not to have them, nowt to do with me, just not for us.
I wouldn't want another van with a fixed bed, either. I go with the principle I was told years ago, if at all possible, anything in a van should have more than one purpose.