French crit air

[barryd]

I have seen large numbers of motorhomes in France displaying the Angles Morts signage (including a few that looked as though they were probably below the weight requirement?). If my motorhome was in excess of 3t500, I would certainly not be taking the risk of not displaying them. Are all relevant locations on your motorhome suitable for magnetic signs? Mine has no steel surfaces in suitable locations at the rear.

Ill probably get the magnetic ones but Im not sticking stickers on it. Yes it has a metal shell. Unless its aluminium of course.

 

[colinm]

Ill probably get the magnetic ones but Im not sticking stickers on it. Yes it has a metal shell. Unless its aluminium of course.

You seem to be new to this motorhoming lark, maybe you need a beginners guide.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

You can get magnetic ones. Maybe I should get a set but if I get to France and Im the only one using them they are coming straight off!

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No good for allyminiuum vans.

 

[barryd]

No good for allyminiuum vans.

I can't find out what its made of. Ill see if a fridge magnet sticks to it.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

As far as I know the only steel vans are PVCs the coachbuilts save weight for payload

 

[barryd]

The answer is not really. A bit of stick but not much. Just have to wing it then as I aint fixing sticky stuff to it.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

I think you can get them in that thin plastic that they made tax disc holders from, just wet and it stays put unless you peel it.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Gripper Mats by Proper Design: A Safer Way to Display Blind Spot and “Angles Morts” Signs on Campervans, Long Vehicles, Lorries, and Horse Boxes

Gripper Mats by Proper Design offer a non-adhesive, damage-free solution to securely display blind spot or "Angles Morts" signs on campervans, lorries, and horse boxes. Ideal for non-magnetic surfaces, they are reusable, weather-resistant, and easy to apply, protecting both your vehicle and...

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[barryd]

Gripper Mats by Proper Design: A Safer Way to Display Blind Spot and “Angles Morts” Signs on Campervans, Long Vehicles, Lorries, and Horse Boxes

Gripper Mats by Proper Design offer a non-adhesive, damage-free solution to securely display blind spot or "Angles Morts" signs on campervans, lorries, and horse boxes. Ideal for non-magnetic surfaces, they are reusable, weather-resistant, and easy to apply, protecting both your vehicle and...

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These are removable and reusable apparently.

ANGLES MORTS - Easy Dot-decals For Blind Spot - Angles Morts Shop

Angles Morts decal set 25 x 17 cm. for vehicles. Mandatory from 3.5 tonnes in France. Blind spot warning sticker, reusable, 3 stickers per set Angles Morts Sticker, the blind spot. Weather-resistant sticker for reuse on the motorhome. 17 x 25 cm sticker for blind spots on heavy vehicles. The...

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Mixed reviews on a OAL thread I found. They last for a while but start to peel off apparently after a couple of thousand miles.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Might be down to how smooth the surface was, if it was properly clean etc.

 

[barryd]

Then there are these. You could put one of them on the back and two magnetic ones on the front doors. Or you could just not bother and just pick one up from the side of the road which has bound to have blown off a brit van.

Angles Morts Suction Cup Removable Top Quality Signs Motorhome RV A Class | eBay

Angles Morts Removable Signs. Why do we use a picture of a coach?. Our own testing has shown it actually takes much more force than the cup manufacturer claims to pull them off. No, we can't, as it depends on you sticking them on properly to the right surface.

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[TeamRienza]

£69 for a pack of 3, so a non runner.

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I buy a standard pack of stickers and remove the backing, cut 1cm off it on all 4 sides, restick it to the back of the actual sticker. Easily removed and discarded at end of holiday and has minimum adhesive contact with body work.

Davy

 

[gasgas]

Did they give a reason for refusal?

My 1999 Transit is not eligible for a Critaire. However, I reckon it is cheaper to drive a smokey old clonker and pay the occasional £100 fine than it is to drive a modern wagon with computers breaking down every few miles. Actually apart from the customary 6 month life of the Sevel passenger air bag monitor (£400 - £800) it is usually some cheap £50 sensor or £0 bad electrical connection that causes you to get a £1,000 bill from incompetent garage diagnosis, or pretty soon it is going to be from £2,000 to £4,000 to New Engine bills for Fords with their wet belts. Never mind their very inventive prices (?£300 each) of their injectors which go on strike just out of warranty. Meanwhile I will have paid a couple of £100 fines and my old clonker will still be going. In reality of course as soon as I see a low emission zone sign I do a 3 point turn in the middle of the road, holding up the traffic, and then drive 20 - 50 miles extra to get round the zone. I did that recently approaching Bath where there wasn't any provision for non compliants to turn round and go away.

 

[gasgas]

£69 for a pack of 3, so a non runner.

Wow that's inflation for you. When I w'or - a - lad they were 3/9d for a pack of three.

 

[gasgas]

Can’t you make yourself one with a scanner and colour printer? Can’t see the French authorities stopping you simply to check your compliance.

Davy

Nowt to do with critair but last time we were in France I joined a queue at a Police road block where they were diverting vehicles off to the side to be weighed. My heart was in my mouth as for some inexplicable reason AutoSleeper choose (I think they still do for the Nuevo) to plate wagons at 3300kg which mine is. I haven't had it weighed fully loaded (Not to self to get that done) so I might have been over the weight. Monsieur Gendarme waved me though and stopped the blanc-van-homme behind me. I guess that they just look and can tell if a van is overloaded by how low on the springs it is.

 

[gasgas]

Does anyone know of a reliable sat nav which will keep me away from LEZs (2002 dirty diesel, Crti Air 4 etc)?

Firstly I think these zones are springing up all over the place and I doubt that any sat nav will keep up with them. You just have to keep a sharp eye out for signs. Secondly I would have thought if you have a 2002 wagon it would at least comply with something? My 1999 doesn't though. Thirdly, a) when you see a sign just turn round and take your money somewhere else or b) park up outside town and get the bus in. In Europe there are many towns and cities where they don't even charge bus fairs. The whole Dunkirk Oblast (county) for example has not charged any bus fares since 2017. Bavaria had / has a system of paying €9 for a travel ticket which takes you anywhere on any form of transport - bus, tram, train - except the high speed intercity trains for 24 hours. You park up in a free Stellplatz and let someone else do the driving.

 

[alcam]

For the breatherlyser whilst the law compelled that they be carried, there was no law enacted to fine anyone instead the police had to inform the driver of the law, it was revoked after 8 years.

I'm sure ferries were still selling them in the last year or so

 

[Norfolk NewBoy]

Firstly I think these zones are springing up all over the place and I doubt that any sat nav will keep up with them. You just have to keep a sharp eye out for signs. Secondly I would have thought if you have a 2002 wagon it would at least comply with something? My 1999 doesn't though. Thirdly, a) when you see a sign just turn round and take your money somewhere else or b) park up outside town and get the bus in. In Europe there are many towns and cities where they don't even charge bus fairs. The whole Dunkirk Oblast (county) for example has not charged any bus fares since 2017. Bavaria had / has a system of paying €9 for a travel ticket which takes you anywhere on any form of transport - bus, tram, train - except the high speed intercity trains for 24 hours. You park up in a free Stellplatz and let someone else do the driving.

Easier said than done!
I drove into Aachen on a wide dual carriageway and suddenly found myself passing under an LEZ sign: no chance of turning round and no easy way of knowing which route to take to get out of town. I'd travelled down "back roads" to get there and probably missed earlier warnings. Anxious time but I got away with it.
Driving through Freiburg on my way to Titisee: I spot little signs on the side of the road saying "Umvelt Zone" owtte. "Oh sh%&" I say. Fortunately I got away with that one as well. (Did I spot a map showing an acceptable route as I "hurtled" down the main road? I think I did but I wasn't expecting it so I was concentrating on the traffic around me.)
I think I got away with another infringement on the same holiday and I was glad that I could relax, knowing that these were not monitored by ANPR cameras.

However, times are changing and I would love a little (?) electronic device which could tell me that problems lie on the road ahead. A generic green blob around the city name would be a starter, alerting me to the need to take greater care: I'm not asking for an ability to specify "my" dirtiness and steer me clear of it (although data updated on a daily basis, foc, would be nice ).

I've considered forking out over £300 for a new device, even though I'm quite happy with my current TT 6200 because a couple of LEZ fines would cover the cost. BUT is there anything worth spending that money on?

 

[TJBi]

Firstly I think these zones are springing up all over the place and I doubt that any sat nav will keep up with them. You just have to keep a sharp eye out for signs. Secondly I would have thought if you have a 2002 wagon it would at least comply with something? My 1999 doesn't though. Thirdly, a) when you see a sign just turn round and take your money somewhere else or b) park up outside town and get the bus in. In Europe there are many towns and cities where they don't even charge bus fairs. The whole Dunkirk Oblast (county) for example has not charged any bus fares since 2017. Bavaria had / has a system of paying €9 for a travel ticket which takes you anywhere on any form of transport - bus, tram, train - except the high speed intercity trains for 24 hours. You park up in a free Stellplatz and let someone else do the driving.

They're also springing up in Spain, where it would appear that foreign-registered vehicles need to be registered with each individual local authority whose clean air zone they wish to enter.

 

[gasgas]

. . . .and what if they are not? Is the paella in spanish prisons any good?