Clean air zones

CoPilot updated and avoid LEZ & CAZ selected.

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Kev: thanks for the heads-up. I'll try to remember not to rely on CoPilot to keep me out of trouble the next time I'm heading for the Squinting Cat!
That said, I wonder whether the reason it's not kept out of the Bradford CAZ is because St Lukes is within the CAZ and so it cannot find a route that doesn't enter the zone. Here's a map of the CAZ from the Bradford website with the last bit of your route overlaid...

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Good point and disgraceful too if there is no pain free route to a hospital.

Our local MP it seems visits Lizs sons cafe, words will be had about this, he's a tory but one of the good ones.
 
Thought I'd give it a try and so chose two locations (Sainsbury's just NE of Bradford and somewhere on the outskirts of Halifax). It should be possible to route between them an avoid the zone since both are outside. CoPilot did the best it could. However, it still routed me via the ring road. As mentioned in other threads, when the concept of CAZs was introduced, ring roads, bypasses and motorways were supposed to be excluded -- but Bradford's CAZ boundary is on the outer edge of the ring road and so that road is included. Anyway, here's the routing that CoPilot proposed...

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Just got back from the Hospital, Liz getting MRI scan.

I just put Hambledon Avenue in to see and it takes you right through it.

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I tried Bingley to Hambledon Ave and got three proposed routes, one of which went straight through the centre of Bradford while the other two used the east and west ring roads! I'm guessing here that the routing engine couldn't find a reasonable route that didn't pass through the CAZ? Nonetheless, it would be good for the system to give a warning where this is the case?!

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In contrast, I asked CoPilot to give me a route from close to the end of the M32 in NE Bristol to Bristol Airport. Google Maps routed me straight through Bristol's CAZ while CoPilot took a detour (including B-roads) to avoid the CAZ. Bottom line I guess is that CoPilot might help but is not infallible and hence its proposed routing must be checked and additional waypoints added where appropriate to ensure avoidance of CAZs...
 
They have created an impossible situation for people who don't have time on their hands to go a circuitous route, can't afford to do it, and for tourists.
 
Ulez they took a pollution recorder on the London tube . It was under 30 at road level and 250 at a tube station platform with shops so people work at intolerantlevels.. Its not the cars it the people ! Lol
 
1 Cup said:
Ulez they took a pollution recorder on the London tube . It was under 30 at road level and 250 at a tube station platform with shops so people work at intolerantlevels.. Its not the cars it the people ! Lol
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Brown Car Guy YouTuber took a hand-held pollution meter around London and consistently found pollutants to be within legal limits and "low" for the most part. The exception was the underground, which was consistently higher and mostly unhealthy. At one point, his meter detected a passing surface tube train some distance away as the pollution temporarily increased shortly after the train passed and then reverted to the previous level over a few minutes. This is similar to what Air Quality England's static sensors show -- they're consistently "low" with the highest often being close to where the Underground comes to the surface. That said, right now (17:00 15th July 2023) every online sensor in the country is showing "LOW"...

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The problem with sticking one’s head in the sand like the woman above appears to have done multiple times is no amount of excuses can fix ignorance or stupidity!

I bet rather than contacting the agency direct to resolve her, cough, ‘muddle’ she instead asked for advice from somewhere eminently sensible and well known for its wisdom and balanced opinions like Facebook….
 
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HELP!!!
Why is it some motorhomes that are Euro6 running on ADBLUE but when I do a registration check on ULEZ it’s not compliant
Now I’m confused
 
And just something else for the mix,
Transport for London website says the vehicle I’m looking at is compliant but auto express and Lombard finance company say it’s not 😡😡😡
 
andyjanet said:
HELP!!!
Why is it some motorhomes that are Euro6 running on ADBLUE but when I do a registration check on ULEZ it’s not compliant
Now I’m confused
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Because you don't own a 1967 ERF former Argos/Iceland Lorry that has a bloody great generator on the back, belching diesel emissions into the fresh air; because, being a Showman Member, your vehicle has magical properties that cause all such emissions to evaporate, harmlessly, to join those produced by 2 stroke motorbikes, historic vehicles from 40 years+ ago, who, running on leaded petrol produce only beneficial aromas, because we all know the switch to unleaded fuel was just junk science ...

Or, more likely, brown enevlopes galore went to the politicians, including the Greens [as in naive], who produced hugely inconsistent and contradictory Regs. Let us hope they all die from the carcinogens that their bloody woodstoves produce, in their Clean Air neighbourhoods. Off now to knit pair of sandals whilst the Office Aircon pushes my odours and emissions into the wide blue, soot laden yonder

Steve
 
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andyjanet said:
HELP!!!
Why is it some motorhomes that are Euro6 running on ADBLUE but when I do a registration check on ULEZ it’s not compliant
Now I’m confused
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Check your V5 is 100% correct, euro status, emmisions, vehicle type etc. any blanks can cause a red flag
Also is it over 3500kg I.e a PHGV as that can make a difference. This may not be the issue with your van but it certainly is for many of the road.

In some ways finally identifying V5 ommisions may be a good thing e.g. all sorts of vans such as the dishonest ved evaders in ex Ambulances will be getting picked up by the newer anpr cameras for taxation class and other V5 discrepancies that will red flag them in these ever growing zones.
 
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andyjanet said:
HELP!!!
Why is it some motorhomes that are Euro6 running on ADBLUE but when I do a registration check on ULEZ it’s not compliant
Now I’m confused
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Same with mine ULEZ compliant but not in all CAZ's

Apparently because it's London innit! :)
 
Pudsey Bear said:
My gripe also is it should not ever be applied to any private vehicle regardless of weight or classification if it is a private vehicle then a disabled person could be driving it, and a disabled person may not be able to get to their destination any other way than by car or a motorhome or whatever it doesn't matter.

Commercial vehicles also need to make deliveries into town centres, and some belong to very small businesses that can't afford to upgrade their vehicle, and how long before they move the goalposts on what is okay and what is not?
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Get the vehicle registered in disabled tax class and caz, lez, ulez no longer apply Kev
 
Pudsey Bear said:
My gripe also is it should not ever be applied to any private vehicle regardless of weight or classification if it is a private vehicle then a disabled person could be driving it, and a disabled person may not be able to get to their destination any other way than by car or a motorhome or whatever it doesn't matter.

Commercial vehicles also need to make deliveries into town centres, and some belong to very small businesses that can't afford to upgrade their vehicle, and how long before they move the goalposts on what is okay and what is not?
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You can apply for an exemption for any class of vehicle that carries a person who is eligible for adisabled badge.
 
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