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Do you think hell will freeze over first. Even the Devil can't afford to keep warm these days.No Chance
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The disappointing thing about the fall in the gas price, is, that it sets the price of electricity despite the fact that heading towards 50% of power is generated by renewables which have more stable running costs.
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Obviously commodities wether fuel, electricity, food stuffs, minerals etc are traded on a longer term contract basis, but to my mind this system of pricing really is in need of reform.
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Obviously commodities wether fuel, electricity, food stuffs, minerals etc are traded on a longer term contract basis, but to my mind this system of pricing really is in need of reform.
Davy
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Some people I know had a new home built last year with ground source heating, they also incorporated their holiday lodges in the heating. Last week they where querying their bills with the installers, the energy use so low they thought they where somehow reading the meters wrong, they had previously lived in a old farmhouse that leaked heat like a sieve.I am now going to stick my head in the sand along with many others and see if I can find some ground source heating.
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No. The devil is in the detail, and if these prices continued it would mean hell on earth.Do you think hell will freeze over first. Even the Devil can't afford to keep warm these days.
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Fisherman
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Just been announced tonight that retail gas prices are now lower than they were prior to the war in Ukraine. But due to the fact that Europe secured its gas at much higher prices, our bills will take months maybe a year to reduce. The government have been backing on this scenario. The way things are looking the only help we will get this year will be continuing the £500 winter fuel allowance for another year. But it’s looking certain that the average bill will be below the government threshold of £3000, meaning no cash from them. Also diesel prices have been falling. Let’s hope for everyone’s sake that we are out of the woods sonnet than later.The disappointing thing about the fall in the gas price, is, that it sets the price of electricity despite the fact that heading towards 50% of power is generated by renewables which have more stable running costs.
Why does the price of gas drive electricity prices | Good Energy
We look at why the price of gas affects the prices of renewable energy and what this means for companies like us.
Obviously commodities wether fuel, electricity, food stuffs, minerals etc are traded on a longer term contract basis, but to my mind this system of pricing really is in need of reform.
Davy
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That could also be to do with the fact that the C&MC have recently introduced deposit taking as well. I'm guessing folks will be thinking longer and harder about booking if they stand to lose their deposits.
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I don`t necessarily agree with the C&MC going down the deposit route but i can`t blame them for doing it after what we`ve seen.
Several times i`ve been into receptions to see if there was pitches available for friends who are also members and yes i do have a couple despite the rumours who wanted to come and stay at the same time as us on a site.
The wardens just said no, we`re fully booked for the rest of the week yet when i go out last thing to the ablutions block which is well after last entry time there are normally loads of empty pitches, nobody in the late night arrivals area or the next morning and when questioned the wardens just say ..................... no show but they were booked so there`s nowt they can do.
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It had to come, some were simply at it, they should have done this years ago. The CCC do it, I have no problems with this. When you make a booking, you are making a commitment. Quite frankly there are some members who should have been booted out for their selfishness, booking up sites knowing full well they could no attend them all. Not often I support this mob, but I do here.
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They have more staff working at head office than throughout the rest of their entire site network.
People had been starting to block book pitches for different dates and even on different sites for the same dates, in other words making sure they had reserved a selection to choose from in advance and only deciding which to go for a particular one (or not) at the last minute. Bit like the people who hogged all the loo rolls
This means pitches were registered as booked but loads of no-shows and (I think?) wardens not allowed to override and make their own decisions on the ground.
Compounded by the fact that the new revamped booking system takes a lot of control away from the site wardens and it doesn’t seem to be working too well. A push towards everything controlled completely by tech, but without properly thinking through the practicalities on the ground?
Ivory towers and all that jazz
People had been starting to block book pitches for different dates and even on different sites for the same dates, in other words making sure they had reserved a selection to choose from in advance and only deciding which to go for a particular one (or not) at the last minute. Bit like the people who hogged all the loo rolls
This means pitches were registered as booked but loads of no-shows and (I think?) wardens not allowed to override and make their own decisions on the ground.
Compounded by the fact that the new revamped booking system takes a lot of control away from the site wardens and it doesn’t seem to be working too well. A push towards everything controlled completely by tech, but without properly thinking through the practicalities on the ground?
Ivory towers and all that jazz
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The C&MC policy of allowing people to book without deposit, and cancel without loss has been a bone of contention for years. The decision to charge everyone for electric caused some to leave, deposits might reduce the number of bookings, but I don't think it will reduce the actual numbers using sites, in fact it may well rise.
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You could well be right.
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The block booking thing on different sites at the same time was a crazy flaw in their booking system. Why would their system allow people to do that? To book more than one site for any given day/days! Had they sorted that out they would have gone a good way down the road of stopping the problem.
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I dont think technology is the C&M clubs strong point. I re-joined after a long absence in 2021 and their website is still as rubbish as ever when searching and finding CL sites and painfully slow. When we were out touring and looking for CL sites its was easier to find them on searchforsites and then click the link to the C&MC site to find the contact details etc. They still havent done stuff like put in the right Lat and Long or even what three words info as the postcodes on CLs can often be miles out.
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We are a small CL and charge £14 a night plus leccy which is metered. Had a couple with a big MH who used £12 a night at 35p a kwh and couldn’t believe they could possibly use so much. I did explain that I did a test with my MH and with just heating on ticking over low heat I used £8.30 in 24 hrs. Scary expensive now 
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We are a small CL and charge £14 a night plus leccy which is metered. Had a couple with a big MH who used £12 a night at 35p a kwh and couldn’t believe they could possibly use so much. I did explain that I did a test with my MH and with just heating on ticking over low heat I used £8.30 in 24 hrs. Scary expensive now
That sounds the way to go. Metered electric is one of the options I suggested to the lady on Arran who was saying she was going to close. I imagine it's expensive to put in though retrospectively.
Yesterday was a bit unusual. In all day and very cold. I am trying to make an effort to keep the heating as low as possible and of course off when we are out but £15 a night now including EHU is not sustainable really in winter at least.
The cl owners are moving this month but the CL will continue with the new owners. I suspect when we return which may be next autumn it will have doubled in price.
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Where?
I dont use site very often and even less use EHU but I do have to go th North Yorkshire soon and I'd rather spend my money with a memeber than not
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Just booked two nights at C&C Windermere for £21.40 per night for 2 adults. They discount out of season. We only start using c&mc sites as everyone’s prices go up towards high season. I suppose the reality is that both “Clubs” aren’t clubs anymore but businesses with £million plus turnovers per annum.