Have you thought/realised?

Jon said:
Completely unnecessary!
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I had an auditor once who had a saying that made him very good at his job, and very revered.

"Don't tell me, show me."

The reason it caused such a stir was because the majority of the time the people who couldn't show were talking cr4p.

I'm sure you wouldn't want to look like you're talking cr4p, so post a link ;)

Edit to add, a link specific to CV of course.
 
st3v3 said:
I do apologise Jon, I left it out at first because I thought it would be obvious, but apparently not.

I edited to include " a link specific to CV of course. "
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Virus are virus and they all work the same way roughly. They deal with HIV very effectively these days, reducing the viral load so it cannot be passed on
 
Jon said:
Please inform me of another vaccine that enables you to pass on the disease whilst protecting the vaccinated body. It doesn't happen and that isn't how they work. There are some individuals who are naturally immune and can carry/infect others but they are very rare, remember your history, there was a lady called Plague Mary who lived from 1869-1938 who infected at least 53 people with Typhoid without having any symptoms herself. She was forcibly incarcerated twice by the authorities.
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I'm not a scientist and couldn't tell you but there are no doubt many scientists researching this question otherwise the government wouldn't be saying they don't yet know.
 
st3v3 said:
Would you have me change it to "At the time of writing, no-one is suggesting the vaccine will 100% stop you passing CV on"?

That would be factually correct wouldn't it?


And actually wouldn't change the tone or message of the post :rolleyes:
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Yes
 
Jon said:
Virus are virus and they all work the same way roughly. They deal with HIV very effectively these days, reducing the viral load so it cannot be passed on
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And still no CV link...
 
antiquesam said:
When you say emergency
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In the context of this thread I used the term 'emergency', there are a lot of treatments that are not denied to 'smokers and the obese', some areas appear to restrict elective surgery, I'm not privy to the reasoning behind all those decisions, but the risks during surgery for obese persons is much higher, this poses problems, the team on hand during surgery has to be larger which consumes more resources, also the outcome could be worse than the condition.
 
I understand what Jon is saying and tend to agree with him. It has been clearly stated that the vaccination will take a few weeks to reach its optimum protection of the body. It is also not 100% effective, there are people who will not have the vaccination and there are people not following the safety guidelines.

After our jab, my Mrs and I will carry on the way we are indefinitely and will only change when the virus is well under control.
 
maingate said:
Yes ... maybe not 100%
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Ok. Unless it's 100% my point still stands anyway.

Why do you think the manufacturers don't say it stops you passing it on?

I think there is something different with this virus/vaccine combination.
 
maingate said:
Yes ... maybe not 100% but if the jab means I can fight and beat the virus then it stands to reason it will not take over my body and multiply, thus making me an agent to pass it on to others.
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Doesn't stand to reason as we know asymptomatic people can pass it on.

And thats not from Karen either. :)
 
trevskoda said:
The new to soon be released vaccine will be 99% effective, so roll on summertime.
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as a brother an a celt, not the same blood, but i have been with the barsks, not the same langwidge but, there are still a part of the past,so take care, u may not
like it bro, but u r one of us, so take care, and the pills, take a look at holstens, best wishes, ok pj
 
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