whitby gazette motorhome parking

[Firefox]

Hi All


Most supermarkets will have signs up saying max 3hrs parking and may even try to fine some some people but without the TRO there is no legal basis.

Supermarkets are different. Their argument is based on civil law that they let you onto their land on the basis of an implied contract that you can park for a certain length of time. If you overstay then you have broken the contract and they can legally claim for damages, no TRO needed. The money is limited to their costs and damages incurred plus court costs. But they have to prove that you were aware of the parking notices and were aware there was a contract. This may be difficult to do on a one off case, but if you were a regular abuser of their parking, or had been warned you are likely to be on thin ice in court.

 

[AndyC]

Hi All

Good Thread enjoying so far.

two points

1) The Canterbury Park & Rides doesn't allow overnight parking, which makes it a bit questionable to it's worth:

http://www.canterbury.gov.uk/authority/assets/parking/parkandride leaflet 2010.pdf

This is an interesting one, I had a discussion with the parking manager a few years ago about the fact that they allow, even encourage, motorhomes to stay overnight at the New Dover Road P&R (and the coach park, incidentally) yet their TRO precludes overnight stays.

He told me that the TRO was kept in place "in case of any problems" but is not generally enforced. He also said that he would dearly like to expand the motorhome parking area, because of the demand at peak periods, but did not have the funds to do it.

AndyC

 

[kenjones]

If you do answer it, obviously you aren't asleep, but they may collect evidence eg You are in your night clothes or the beds are made up in the van. They could also take a photograph. This is not beyond the bounds of possibility as they take photos of cars illegally parked to use as evidence, should it come to a dispute in court.

Point taken. It's a sad country that has honest people looking over thier shoulders like criminals.

 

[Firefox]

I'd be interested to know what the situation was if someone knocks on your door at night.

If you are legally parked and not causing an obstruction, I'd think it was down to your own discretion if you answer or not. After all, would someone answer a knock at 2.00 am on their house door. Many people would ignore it.

 

[ellieloy]

rights regs and ridicule

Having watched this space with interest, I suspect they would be on very dodgy grounds taking photographs of you or the inside of your vehicle - I think this may deny basic human rights - we have to give consent now for any photographs to be used that are taken of us in many walks of life - some people actually believe that to have a photograph taken of them without consent ammounts to personal assault (and in some cultures it is very much taboo and akin to stealing one's soul!)

That aside if you own a car as well a sa MH .... are you really going to be wanting to go visit these places?

Are they stopping people picnicing too - what difeerence does it make if you are cooking your food or eating it cold - the potential for rubbish remains the same. Does 'cooking' include making a cup of tea? - many people I know use in-car kettles to make their tea fresh when picnicing?

I know signs apply to all 'technically' but are they really going to fine a person asleep in their car? - I see plenty of people doing that on a daily basis (go down to our local town on pension day.. and lots of old guys snooze away while their wifies go away to get the shopping), and in fact the police ads on TV used to advise you to pull off the road and sleep if tired. You aren't going to do that in an unsafe area ... so maybe you go into town.

Just a few things to think about, but there are too many contradictions.

 

[Firefox]

Since the car park is a public place they are entitled to take photos. And they are allowed to take photos of objects in a public place including people or vehicles. I guess sticking the camera inside the door may contravene privacy, but they could take a picture through an open door as part of a car park scene.

I got a parking fine for ten minute overstay on my ticket in a market square car park a few years back. (Typical North Herts District Council Officiousness!). They also sent me a picture of my car. Anyway, the picture showed my car in a parking space with a time and date stamp. It included the number plate and also a reasonable shot of some of the car interior.

They may have been acting illegally, but I believe taking photos of parked vehicles is a common place activity, and I'm pretty sure they would have checked the legality with their legal people. Especially NHDC who are super good about being efficient, officious, and legal in their busybody activities.

 

[Yogihughes]

RE:- Photographing cars

Just watched somebody's car being towed away.
Illegally parked.
The tow truck driver took several photos of the car.
I suppose it is to protect himself in case the car owner states that his car was damaged by the lifting and towing.

 

[groyne]

As I posted earlier, it soon won't be worth visiting Whitby.

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