while wilding were do you empty toilet

[sparrks]

Having been a camper for the last 40 years or so, in recent years i've done a bit of wild camping - by "wild camping" i mean tent + backpack. The appeal of this is to get away from it all and imerse myself in nature. It is the ability to get away from the spoil and clutter of everyday use - no rubbish, traffic, noise and no people. Wilderness.

However, not being as fit and healthy as in the past i've been wild camping in my van and not being able to get to any wild places easily, i'm shocked at the rubbish and the human excrement/toilet paper thats left all over the place, normally in laybys and other parking spaces. If you can think to carry some toilet paper you can surely carry a small trowel to bury any waste. I have two, one lives in the door pocket, the other in my rucsac.

I notice it has been said that the small amount of waste left by campers will not cause much pollution - true, but the next person to stay at the space dosen't want to be greated my the sight and smell of turds and rubbish in general. CLEAR UP AFTER YOURSELVES!

WE ARE NOT DOING OURSELVES ANY FAVOURS WITH THE ATTITUDES OF SOME ON THIS SITE.

One site I quite often frequent is this one http://http://www.cameronmcneish.co.uk/2008/08/wild-camping-in-scotland/

Try reading that page and think of the consequences of your actions we cannot afford to upset too many groups or otherwise your days of wild camping may come to an end.

Being a photographer i try to stick to the saying Leave only footprints/tyre marks and take only photographs.

Please dont spoil it for everyone

Paul

 

[tresrikay]

After reading this thread,i cant believe the way some Wildcampers think,sound like total morons or the 'dont give a f*** brigade'.
You dont have to have a 'posh' camper to behave like a caring human being and to think of others after you,If you cant take it home with you (****e) before getting to full,find a proper place to empty it,if you aint even got some sort of toilet and you crap like an animal,please dig a hole first...and cover over,as for women with thier 'tampons' and the like,AND another pet hate 'NAPPIES" which seem to be thrown anywhere these days which have a lifespan of about 10 years (dunno why!) put them in a plastic bag..tie the top and put IN A BIN !! stupid ! you could even do that in an emergency with a crap,at least its tied top and gone,not left about to smell,step in or people to complain.
People like you braindead morons spoil it for everyone,there always a small minority in every situaation that spoils it for the majority,hopefully you will get the message ,one way or another,before it rubs off on us.
Yet another reason for leaving the UK for pastures green(not covered in ****)

Travel a bit further south and then over the desert and give your lectures to the Iraqis.......
Most of the posts on this thread are appalled at the disgusting disposal methods are advocated and I would never dispose of even a nappy in a skip or a public bin ( I dont need to wear them anymore though).

Plastic bags are the worst thing to put ANYTHING in ANYWHERE as they take 30+ years to bio-degrade and if they get to the sea, then turtles and sea birds think they are jelly fish and the turtlles block there guts with them and the sea
birds drown by getting entangled in them.

I would support a world wide ban on plastic bags as no no one has any reason not to carry a light weight bag ...... of cotton ( or any other material that is natural) with them to the shops.

We are covering this planet in a layer of plastic that is a deadly substance even when granulated by the actions of years in the oceans as those birds that swallow sand to aid the digestive system are being killed by the toxicity still contained in it.


So dont lecture on Putting it in a plastic bag, as you are causing more problems than you are solving.

 

[bigboack]

Well said ricky i think it best if we let this thread run its course and disappear from the site of anyone else. No more comments if you ask me. but thats my opinion and I wont be posting on this thread anymore.

 

[maingate]

Unfortunately Ricky, I am forced to carry plastic bags.

The usual wooded place we take the dogs is often used for drinking sessions. Not only do they leave their rubbish, they feel compelled to smash the glass vodka bottles.

So far, it has cost us around £400 in vets bills because the dogs have badly gashed their feet.

Nowadays, I never leave any glass but always pick it up and put it in one of the bins which are not too far away. I have carried that many empty vodka, wine and beer bottles out of the woods that the other dog walkers think I am an alcoholic.

 

[ajs]

I have carried that many empty vodka, wine and beer bottles out of the woods that the other dog walkers think I am an alcoholic.

5p on a bottle...hummm...

if you go down in the woods today you sure of a pot of gold

pardon me uncle fraimdate.. but wouldn't it be an idea to walk them elsware

retards
aj

 

[maingate]

That`s the problem PJ, everywhere is the same, hence my displeasure.

If your brains were made of dynamite, there would`nt be enough to blow your cap off.

 

[Channa]

Unfortunately Ricky, I am forced to carry plastic bags.

The usual wooded place we take the dogs is often used for drinking sessions. Not only do they leave their rubbish, they feel compelled to smash the glass vodka bottles.

So far, it has cost us around £400 in vets bills because the dogs have badly gashed their feet.

Nowadays, I never leave any glass but always pick it up and put it in one of the bins which are not too far away. I have carried that many empty vodka, wine and beer bottles out of the woods that the other dog walkers think I am an alcoholic.

Perhaps of relevance, I have just returned from a two day sortie in the CC site in Clumber park, opportunity to dispose of toilet waste and undertake other chores.

Interesting that when we visit the hound howls with delight , walkies and squirrel chasing in her world no doubt the motive.

However walking through the park imbeciles have discarded portable bbq's and as you say an assortment of empty bottles and cans of alcoholic beverages.

I take a carrier with me now and collect the **** others leave.

Sod's law of course you dont see the idiots litter, a pity really or perhaps not I would be quite happy to feed the miscreants the containers that they feel obliged to discard with no regard to others enjoyment of the park.

On a more pleasant note walking the dog yesterday and saw a bird which I am sure had escaped from somewhere. it had at least a 6 ft wingspan and had white bands at the ends of its wings...( any ideas ? ) .not a clue what it was Ospreys, Kites Sea Eagles tend not to live in Sherwood Forest.

This was a serious sized bird of prey, as we were walking the bird kept flying ahead.

I have seen before in Clumber, Deer. And in the snow plenty of track marks to indicate they are about, but this bird is bugging me, I haven,t a clue what I saw ....but a privilidge in any event

Channa

 

[ajs]

On a more pleasant note walking the dog yesterday and saw a bird which I am sure had escaped from somewhere. it had at least a 6 ft wingspan and had white bands at the ends of its wings...( any ideas ? ) .not a clue what it was Ospreys, Kites Sea Eagles tend not to live in Sherwood Forest.

This was a serious sized bird of prey, as we were walking the bird kept flying ahead.


Channa

one of these probably...

returds
aj

 

[Channa]

one of these probably...

returds
aj

Deffo not a teradctyl AJ, I had not partaken in any alcoholic refreshment at the witnessing of the big feathered one.

I seriously havent a clue what it was It wouldnt surprise me if it had escaped from somewhere.

Rampton is just down the road , but highly unlikely an escapee from there

Channa

 

[barnybg]

Tresrikay,Sorry i dont understand what your getting at....whats Iraqis have to do with me or litter and **** in the UK ?
As for lecturing i didn't think i was,merely stating to some dirty basta*** to dispose of human **** and rubbish that they cause,in a 'grown up ' manner,preferably 'bagging it' rather than leaving it there.....IF YOU PREFER TO PUT OTHERS RUBBISH AND HUMAN **** IN YOUR FRIENDLY BAG,THEN DO SO,but dont dis me for being disgusted at some lower forms of WILDCAMPERS,in fact better 'THEY' go to Iraq !!!Try not to be an arse all the time ! As for plastic bags,yes a curse on the planet and a different issue,mainly caused by supermarkets handing them out to easily.
I'm glad you 've stopped using nappies(not long ago though,by the sound of it)and if you dont put them in a bin or somewhere where waste goes,where do you put them ?duh, i guess you just drop them out of the car or van your travelling in eh !
I think for people to be on the same wavelength and then you come out with crap like that we'll never stop the rot......EASY,DONT LEAVE ANY CRAP for you thicko's out there.

By the way,i'm living 3 countries away from Iraq and thousands of miles.

 

[Chrissy]

Lose it

i think it best if we let this thread run its course and disappear from the site of anyone else. No more comments if you ask me. but thats my opinion and I wont be posting on this thread anymore.

ear ear, after my post, I would go one step further though and ask Admin to remove the whole thread.

If this thread was read by outsiders deciding whether or not we are worthy of providing and Aire type area for near their village / coastline then the obvious answer would be a no, in no uncertain terms.

It wouldn't matter that a majority of us find the few abhorant in their actions the outsider would focus on how the few say they act and not want our type anywhere near their lovely village or coastline.

Please don't post so irresponsibly

If you do it then you have to live with yourselves and your conscience and what harm you believe you are or are not doing but please try to see the harm you are doing to all us wildcampers by advertising the fact that you dump your crap and chemicals.

I am not talking about someone having a crap in the woods and burying it so please don't respond on that note.

Fanks for reading
Disgusted of Leeds

 

[tony]

we got our own septic tank & water supply. the regulations state your septic tank must be a certain distance from a house , a public right of way & your water supply also from a stream & other water source.
those rgulations are there for a reason.
my last word on the subject to those who think they can empty their toilets where they like is.-
STOP NOW.
TONY.

 

[n8rbos]

I agree that this thread has now run it's course.

I don't think the thread should be removed for the following reasons ---

New members joining this forum need to see that we are responsible wild campers and this is an extremely helpful and fun forum.

Also anything which goes against what the majority of us wild campers believe in and live by -- ie the subject of this thread --- will be strongly challenged and objected to.

 

[Channa]

I agree that this thread has now run it's course.

I don't think the thread should be removed for the following reasons ---

New members joining this forum need to see that we are responsible wild campers and this is an extremely helpful and fun forum.

Also anything which goes against what the majority of us wild campers believe in and live by -- ie the subject of this thread --- will be strongly challenged and objected to.

I remain to be convinced N8rbos that casual onlookers will see this thread in isolation reflective of the overall wildcamping spirit....leave nowt but your tyretracks etc.

I actually agree with you re removal /censorship etc, and equally understand Chrissys point that the behaviour in some of the ranks is frankly abysmal to those of us that behave responsibly.

I posted casually a few days ago we do not help our cause and it certainly seems that this thread has provoked emotions, and added weight to my original observations

I would suggest we don't sweep it under the carpet, but show the wider community that those of us responsible neither condone promote or subscribe to behaviour which prejudices peoples thoughts of us or our chosen lifestyle /pastime.

It seems their is a real skill pool here, I personally would rather see less bickering and a statement that we actively educate responsibility in our pastime than go all 'ostrich' that the problem will / might go away by removing posts.

Removal of a post is an understandable embarrassment and short term in terms of remedying issues.

The only way we ever stand a chance of being accepted and enjoying the facilities of the French and Germans is to look long and hard in the mirror and collectively unite in that we are a responsible bunch of people.

Channa

 

[tresrikay]

Perhaps of relevance, I have just returned from a two day sortie in the CC site in Clumber park, opportunity to dispose of toilet waste and undertake other chores.

Interesting that when we visit the hound howls with delight , walkies and squirrel chasing in her world no doubt the motive.

However walking through the park imbeciles have discarded portable bbq's and as you say an assortment of empty bottles and cans of alcoholic beverages.

I take a carrier with me now and collect the **** others leave.

Sod's law of course you dont see the idiots litter, a pity really or perhaps not I would be quite happy to feed the miscreants the containers that they feel obliged to discard with no regard to others enjoyment of the park.

On a more pleasant note walking the dog yesterday and saw a bird which I am sure had escaped from somewhere. it had at least a 6 ft wingspan and had white bands at the ends of its wings...( any ideas ? ) .not a clue what it was Ospreys, Kites Sea Eagles tend not to live in Sherwood Forest.

This was a serious sized bird of prey, as we were walking the bird kept flying ahead.

I have seen before in Clumber, Deer. And in the snow plenty of track marks to indicate they are about, but this bird is bugging me, I haven,t a clue what I saw ....but a privilidge in any event

Channa

Could be a red kite

 

[tresrikay]

Tresrikay,Sorry i dont understand what your getting at....whats Iraqis have to do with me or litter and **** in the UK ?
As for lecturing i didn't think i was,merely stating to some dirty basta*** to dispose of human **** and rubbish that they cause,in a 'grown up ' manner,preferably 'bagging it' rather than leaving it there.....IF YOU PREFER TO PUT OTHERS RUBBISH AND HUMAN **** IN YOUR FRIENDLY BAG,THEN DO SO,but dont dis me for being disgusted at some lower forms of WILDCAMPERS,in fact better 'THEY' go to Iraq !!!Try not to be an arse all the time ! As for plastic bags,yes a curse on the planet and a different issue,mainly caused by supermarkets handing them out to easily.
I'm glad you 've stopped using nappies(not long ago though,by the sound of it)and if you dont put them in a bin or somewhere where waste goes,where do you put them ?duh, i guess you just drop them out of the car or van your travelling in eh !
I think for people to be on the same wavelength and then you come out with crap like that we'll never stop the rot......EASY,DONT LEAVE ANY CRAP for you thicko's out there.

By the way,i'm living 3 countries away from Iraq and thousands of miles.

Use Terry nappies and then wash them............no dumping involved........apart from what you put in the toilet.

 

[biggirafe]

Use Terry nappies and then wash them............no dumping involved........apart from what you put in the toilet.

Spoken like a true man
Lets see now, nappy rash, stinky bucket in the toilet where they are kept until wash day, separate wash just for the nappies, more use of washing machines which are no less polluting in their own way, electric and Bio washpowder.

Whilst nappies are bad, no-one disputes I don't think that 'hankering' after the good old days which were not so good in reality is not the answer the manufactorers need to buck-up and produce a bio nappy.

 

[Channa]

Could be a red kite

That crossed my mind, But deffo not native in Notts.

That said they have been re introduced at Harewood House a few years ago near Leeds and I guess as the crow ( or kite flies) 40 miles point to point.

Perhaps it was on a day out !!!

For those not familiar Sherwood Forest is still a pretty wild place in parts, And it isnt unusual to see deer etc etc.

Totally useless for a mobile signal of any kind,so when I am not about for a couple of days you now have a good idea to where i have escaped !!

Channa

 

[flashingblade]

babies

it's like kindergarten.
i love it.
i'm sitting here, chuckling at you lot. it's better than dancing on ice !

bring back the burning of books !! removing threads is censorship.

this is the second time i have read an abusive thread and know ( through pms ) that they cause lots of upset.

can i suggest that if you want to be abusive, have the balls to do it to someone's face rather than the comfort of your arm chair.

was that a stick i just thrust into the hornet's nest ? he-he

back to dancing on ice.................zzzzzzz

 

[biggirafe]

which one fishingspade there are so many in this thread