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davecumbria

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following copied from West Yorkshires services site, free, wow!

'We have on site a Dynamic Axle weighbridge. It is set up in self weigh mode and available 24 hours per day 7 day per week free of charge to check the axle and gross weight of your vehicle. Instructions for use are next to the weighbridge.

If you require a printed proof of the weight of your vehicle we can provide a weight ticket for a small fee. Please contact us for more details.'
Where exactly is this please or what is the website address. I have been meaning to weigh the van for some time but can't find anywhere locally to do it. I live in South Cumbria but will be going to Leeds in a few of weeks. Many thanks.
 

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British Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) has special WIM sensors and roadside cameras all over the country. It helps the agency fight the overloaded delivery trucks and lorries, which pose a threat to road users and damage road infrastructure.


At the beginning of this decade, the British automated the existing manual weight-control systems. The new solution is a combination of WiMS sensors (Weigh in Motion Sensors) and the ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition) system.

Induction loops and special sensors have been placed in the road surface to determine the weight of the passing truck.





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In turn, the camera with the ANPR system records the vehicle’s registration numbers.



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System operation

The system not only recognizes the vehicle and measures its speed and weight, but also compares these parameters with the information contained in the DVSA database. If the truck is overloaded, the system sends an alarm to the officer supervising its work. This one informs the nearest police patrol about the suspected vehicle. The officers stop the indicated car and direct it to the nearest control point.

The scales mounted on British highways are so accurate that almost every WiMS alarm is confirmed by the stationary scales at the DVSA point. The Agency does not provide information on the location of weights. It is known, however, that they are located in the „strategic points of UK road infrastructure”.

Below is a screen view showing the operation of the system



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A green ellipse indicates WIMS weight reading.

The information contained in the database is marked with the yellow ellipse.

White shows how much the vehicle has been overloaded on individual axles and on the total weight (in percent).

In addition, the system informs you which axes are overloaded (red bars) and which ones are not (green bars). The OCRS (Operator Compliance Risk Score) is also displayed on the screen, providing information on possible previous infringements of the given carrier.

What is important for European carriers, the system also recognizes vehicles from abroad, whose data does not appear in the DVSA database.
Very interesting post. Nice one (y)
 
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Anybody know of a public weighbridge Stafford way? Council website suggest a few locations. Been out to all of them - they no longer exist! 🙄
 

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Where is that exactly? Anywhere near the Dobbies Garden Centre?
It is right on the junction of the M9 ( J10 ) and A84.

1 Ariel view, 2 view from main road, 3 view of entrance, 4 view as you turn in, 5 view of the actual weighbridge.

The readout is at the top of the short pole with the instructions taped onto it and the dynamic weighplate is in the foreground of the last screenshot ( 5 )

Have pen and paper ready unless you have a very good memory, it will give you 3 readings, front axle, rear axle, total gross weight.

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Hi angehos. Is Brewood to far away? Had mine done at a weighbridge in Horsebrook Lane. JB Sands
 
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Don’t take this as correct now without checking but it used to be up to 5% over you got a warning/advice, at 10% you got a fine and had to reduce weight before moving. This was tuggers but was same for personal vans. Completely different if commercial
 

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Hi Colin,

Didn't mean to give the impression of wanting to go over GVW. What I was trying to ask to put it differently.....'my chassis is 22 yr old but as its a coach built can I still be confident to take it up to GVW?'

I don't want to go over for mpg, stress on brakes and transmission and cos its not legal
I think you might find it very difficult to stay legal with that van, in particular the rear axle loading.
 

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Don’t take this as correct now without checking but it used to be up to 5% over you got a warning/advice, at 10% you got a fine and had to reduce weight before moving. This was tuggers but was same for personal vans. Completely different if commercial
I'm not sure if it has happened, but AFAIK the enforcement was privatised to be self financing through fines, so I wouldn't expect any leeway nowadays.
 

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Just picked our van up couple of weeks ago, so today, we are loading it up as if we are going away, and taking it to a weighbridge in the morning, to see what our figures are.
Have filled fresh and grey water tanks to the limit, full diesel tank, and packed as much stuff as we can, so that we get the maximum readings, including both of us on board.
We normally never travel with full diesel tank or full grey water tank (always empty whenever we can), so if our readings tomorrow are ok, we will definately know we are ok on our regular outings👍
 

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Just picked our van up couple of weeks ago, so today, we are loading it up as if we are going away, and taking it to a weighbridge in the morning, to see what our figures are.
Have filled fresh and grey water tanks to the limit, full diesel tank, and packed as much stuff as we can, so that we get the maximum readings, including both of us on board.
We normally never travel with full diesel tank or full grey water tank (always empty whenever we can), so if our readings tomorrow are ok, we will definately know we are ok on our regular outings👍

I have to ask, why on earth do you not normally travel with a full diesel tank ?
 

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Thanks for this post, very informative. A tip for self builders that alter wheel or tyre size. After getting the axle weights, contact the tyre manufacturer and they will be able to give you the correct pressures. These will very likely be different to what is on the vehicles tyre pressure plate/sticker. My Sprinter pressures are 16 psi higher on front and 10 psi higher on rear with wheel and tyre combo fitted. Iff stopped I have proof that my pressures are correct according to Hankook.:)
 

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The auto weigh bridges are often located on service station exits as well. I weighed my previous m/h after I got some new conti cp tyres fitted so I could get their tech folks to give me correct pressures. It was 170kg overweight. Without water on board.
New m/h weighed on collection before I signed it off, came in 100kg under weight with the allowable inclusions minus the gas cylinders so pretty pleased with that. About to get it weighed again, ASTERIX where are you in Poole?
I quite like the water drain which has a 20l setting.
It's about time m/hs stated getting weighed, I reckon except for those plated to 3850kg any m/h carrying a couple of bikes will be over loaded.
 

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Just returned from the weighbridge, with the weights.
Have just emailed Continental, and will wait and see what they come back with for recommended pressures.
 

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I had my 3500kg MH weighed a while ago and it came in at 3450kg, no doubt all my extras were increasing the payload. So I had it uprated to 4100 as a paperwork exercise as I already had air suspension and higher rated tyres for the extra load. Now I have peace of mind
 

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So, very prompt reply from Continental, with recommended pressures.
On axle weights provided, 3 bar front and 3.25 bar rear.
Quite a bit less that the 5.5 suggested on the sicker inside the door on the van and also from the dealer upon collection of the van.
It does beg the question, who do you believe. Must say, I am inclined to go with the tyre manufacturer, as the current pressures tend to jar your fillings😂👍
 

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So, very prompt reply from Continental, with recommended pressures.
On axle weights provided, 3 bar front and 3.25 bar rear.
Quite a bit less that the 5.5 suggested on the sicker inside the door on the van and also from the dealer upon collection of the van.
It does beg the question, who do you believe. Must say, I am inclined to go with the tyre manufacturer, as the current pressures tend to jar your fillings😂👍
I'd go with tyre manufacturer too.
I guess you are well below max GVW, and the sticker is for when fully loaded?
 

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