Cant see anything wrong towing a car if it is on a braked trailer. Note this is a 2015 thread
I would say very relevant (although any regulations quoted either permitting or denying something could well have been changed since of course )Towing a car on a braked trailer is definitely the safe way to do it, legally at least!
regarding being a 2015 thread though, is there a cut off date for replying? Surely if the thread is still open, it’s fair game! The topic is still relevant!
That looks like a perfect demonstration of what happens when you fix a towing device to a vehicle that the manufacturer of the vehicle didn't design to be attached to....
Apologies to those who think old threads shouldn’t be resurrected but this is important information.
Warning!!Updated: Nov 28, 2021
Product Safety information for a-frame users.
Following recent events, including threats to personal safety, I have redacted the company’s information from the above post. any comments mentioning them have also been deleted. No campaign is worth putting the world of myself and my family at risk. In the event anything untoward does occur, there are people out there who know the perpetrator including Lincolnshire Police.
Following a recent catastrophic failure of an a-frame towed car I have, this week, (17.11.21) formally called upon Trading Standards and the Vehicle Safety Branch (VSB) of the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) to implement a PRODUCT RECALL on specific a-frame installations.
The towed car suffered a sudden and unpredictable failure of the a-frame to car interface. Regardless of the cause of the initial failure,
CRUCIALLY, it should have had an emergency breakaway system installed in accordance with the Road Vehicles (construction & use) regulations 1986 [and amendments] and COMMISSION DIRECTIVE 98/12/EC.
The object of the emergency breakaway system is to stop the ‘trailer’ in it’s tracks and prevent the ‘trailer’ literally breaking away and going wherever, in this case mounting a pavement and scattering pedestrians.
As the company have ignored my request for more information, The number of vehicles affected is currently unknown but if your vehicle is one, a simple visual inspection will identify it.
Do NOT rely on any written statements like “Automatically sets itself up” or “Break-away safety features built in”. Without the ring highlighted, it has no emergency braking in place!
The product is from a company known as [redacted]. Their standard practice would be to install the emergency breakaway facility, identifiable by a ring ‘mini-cable-tied’ to the vehicles front grill, adjacent to the 13 pin electrical socket.
The ring is for the attachment of a supplied, breakaway cable. SEE PHOTO.
if your vehicle was converted by this company and is lacking the ring, it is ESSENTIAL that your car is drawn to their attention with a view to being modified. The company can be contacted at [redacted].
Failure to act is putting LIVES AT RISK!
Sadly, the installer hasn’t learned. He is still, in 2022, offering Suzuki Alto’s, already converted!That looks like a perfect demonstration of what happens when you fix a towing device to a vehicle that the manufacturer of the vehicle didn't design to be attached to....
Manufacturers spend years and massive amounts of money designing vehicles and parts thereof to do specific jobs...
In the case of front end structures to protect occupants and pedestrians from damage.
It's not in the least bit surprising if something goes wrong after a 3rd party comes along and boshes a towing device to, structures that weren't designed for it....
Let alone in the case above that structure also appears to be corroded where to towing device has been attached.
To be honest I wouldn't be happy towing ANYTHING on a A frame that the Original vehicle manufacturer hadn't specifically approved...Sadly, the installer hasn’t learned. He is still, in 2022, offering Suzuki Alto’s, already converted!
#TowLegal #TowSafe #TowSafe4Freddie
Exactly what I did for a week’s holiday early last year. Parked up the MH at my cousin’s farm and got a car to whizz around in.In any case, why on earth tow a car behind a motorhome in the first place, even if the mechanics were viable? If you want a car once you are on a camp site then why not save many bucketfulls of pounds, and just go somewhere local and hire one?
I’ve been campaigning for towing safety for over 30 years, including a-frames! I don’t believe an outright ban is the way forward but I have been urging the DfT and DVSA to introduce controls and inspections.Obviously time to bann a frames in uk
DVSA were informed within days of this incident as were Trading Standards!Not the first car to have the front ripped out by a A frame, and unlikely to be the last. You need to inform DVSA who replaced VOSA, they used to keep a database for incidents like this. Also maybe the VCA who are supposed to police the certification of vehicles but seem to have buried their head in the sand over A frames.
In any case, why on earth tow a car behind a motorhome in the first place, even if the mechanics were viable? If you want a car once you are on a camp site then why not save many bucketfulls of pounds, and just go somewhere local and hire one?
From (very poor) memory, it was about 10 years ago that incidents where being logged, I suppose people have moved on/retired and it's all been forgotten about.DVSA were informed within days of this incident as were Trading Standards!
I’m not aware of any database that DVSA currently keep regarding a-frame issues, and I’m in contact with a few different departments….