Stay clear of bolton city

[bigpieeater]

incidentally for those of you who can spare a glance away from the bloody telly and the newspapers,the outside world is looking particularly lovely at the moment,all the colours changing on the trees,kids running and kicking up the fallen leaves[i know they're only practising kicking oap s in the head,but still a charming sight]

I like that too, maybe a special invite for you to join motorhome365, we are a friendly bunch who enjoy a bit of banter, not a bunch of OAP's with nothing better to do than, well, disagree with the bleeding obvious!!

 

[paganplasma]

travel in britain

Hi,We have done a lot of travelling with our motor home in France and Brittany they have aires to stay over night on the motor ways and N rds ,and most towns have parking for motor homes with a born for water and waste, some super markets allow motor homes over night parking as they do not have barriers and a lot of villages have motor home points for water and wast as they know you may stop to buy food and goody's, the children always say hallow and are polite, parking is mostly free at seaside towns and villages even towns are mainly free parking ,We believe a lot of this is because the French police do not allow pikys/tinkers/travellers /gipsy s, what ever you wish to call them ,to do what ever they like ,they have their own places to stay while on their travels and not allowed to create mess of any sort ,and they know that the police will come down on them with no mercy so they behave themselves ,and every one has a nice time,but in Britain the opposite is allowed to happen , we have infective police ,corrupted councils and non existent tourism policy, motor homing is big business in Europe just ask the ferry operators ,but in England the authority's cannot provide the same facility's because the lefty's and liberals do not want right minded people to enjoy themselves in England,you will probably find motor home tourism is mainly outgoing from Britain as opposed to incoming if you checked with the ferry's,thank you.

 

[Northerner]

Hi,We have done a lot of travelling with our motor home in France and Brittany they have aires to stay over night on the motor ways and N rds ,and most towns have parking for motor homes with a born for water and waste, some super markets allow motor homes over night parking as they do not have barriers and a lot of villages have motor home points for water and wast as they know you may stop to buy food and goody's, the children always say hallow and are polite, parking is mostly free at seaside towns and villages even towns are mainly free parking ,We believe a lot of this is because the French police do not allow pikys/tinkers/travellers /gipsy s, what ever you wish to call them ,to do what ever they like ,they have their own places to stay while on their travels and not allowed to create mess of any sort ,and they know that the police will come down on them with no mercy so they behave themselves ,and every one has a nice time,but in Britain the opposite is allowed to happen , we have infective police ,corrupted councils and non existent tourism policy, motor homing is big business in Europe just ask the ferry operators ,but in England the authority's cannot provide the same facility's because the lefty's and liberals do not want right minded people to enjoy themselves in England,you will probably find motor home tourism is mainly outgoing from Britain as opposed to incoming if you checked with the ferry's,thank you.

Corrupted councils, non-existent tourist policies? Oh dear, I hadn't realised why that was the reason we don't have aires. I always thought that it was because, compared to France we're a very tiny country where land costs are horrendous. I also thought that it may be because France and Spain, with their enormous size and much better weather are countries where tourism forms a much bigger part of the economy. But why just knock the U.K. for not having aires? What about Denmark, The Netherlands and Norway and Switzerland and a dozen other European countries? I also hadn't realised that all those horrible lefties and liberals were hell bent on making sure we don't enjoy ourselves! Funnily enough, France has always seemed much more lefty that Britain! What do they say about French cars? Made from old tin cans by communists!

And as for travellers or tinkers, the problem in the U.K. is enormous compared to France, mainly because the bulk of them are Irish for whom the U.K is a natural haven. How long do you think it would be before nice aires in British towns and villages became mini-Dale Farms?

I'm sorry, but I get tired of this constant knocking of the U.K. by people who seem totally blinkered to the facts and can only whinge about their own country. Yes, France has aires, because land costs peanuts, but it's only got aires where land is cheap. Have you tried driving along parts of the Mediterranean coast and trying to find somewhere to park, let alone an aire? Height barrier after height barrier and why is this? It's because these towns are not villages suffering from rural flight, which are desperate to get as many people as possible to use their shops, but expensive resorts where land is more expensive and where they simply cannot afford the risk of travellers lowering the tone.

Yes, France is generally a better country than the U.K for motorhoming but the reasons are mainly geographical and nothing whatsoever to do with 'corrupt councils' or non-existent tourist policies. I would suggest that you do a little research and you'll find that the U.K has very active tourist organisations that strive to increase tourism. Have you visited London and other popular tourist spots and seen the number of Chinese and Japanese and Russians and many other nationalities who flock to this country every year?

Finally, I really do object to accusations that the U.K. has corrupt councils. They may not be perfect but there is no endemic corruption in the U.K. and I would challenge you to provide some evidence for your accusation. In any country, France included, you will always turn up the odd bad apple, but the system in the U.K where, for instance, councillors must declare any interest in any planning decisions, is designed to stamp out any attempts at corruption. Yes, it may have happened thirty years ago but we only know that it happened because they were caught (T. Dan Smith and Poulson come to mind). Things have moved on since then with much tighter regulation.

 

[Pollik]

 

[bigpieeater]

Hi,We have done a lot of travelling with our motor home in France and Brittany they have aires to stay over night on the motor ways and N rds ,and most towns have parking for motor homes with a born for water and waste, some super markets allow motor homes over night parking as they do not have barriers and a lot of villages have motor home points for water and wast as they know you may stop to buy food and goody's, the children always say hallow and are polite, parking is mostly free at seaside towns and villages even towns are mainly free parking ,We believe a lot of this is because the French police do not allow pikys/tinkers/travellers /gipsy s, what ever you wish to call them ,to do what ever they like ,they have their own places to stay while on their travels and not allowed to create mess of any sort ,and they know that the police will come down on them with no mercy so they behave themselves ,and every one has a nice time,but in Britain the opposite is allowed to happen , we have infective police ,corrupted councils and non existent tourism policy, motor homing is big business in Europe just ask the ferry operators ,but in England the authority's cannot provide the same facility's because the lefty's and liberals do not want right minded people to enjoy themselves in England,you will probably find motor home tourism is mainly outgoing from Britain as opposed to incoming if you checked with the ferry's,thank you.

Very well said. HOWEVER, expect some flack from some narrow minded individuals on here, take a look at motorhome365, there you can have your say, enjoy some banter and have some fun without the frowns from this lot.

 

[bigpieeater]

Corrupted councils, non-existent tourist policies? Oh dear, I hadn't realised why that was the reason we don't have aires. I always thought that it was because, compared to France we're a very tiny country where land costs are horrendous. I also thought that it may be because France and Spain, with their enormous size and much better weather are countries where tourism forms a much bigger part of the economy. But why just knock the U.K. for not having aires? What about Denmark, The Netherlands and Norway and Switzerland and a dozen other European countries? I also hadn't realised that all those horrible lefties and liberals were hell bent on making sure we don't enjoy ourselves! Funnily enough, France has always seemed much more lefty that Britain! What do they say about French cars? Made from old tin cans by communists!

And as for travellers or tinkers, the problem in the U.K. is enormous compared to France, mainly because the bulk of them are Irish for whom the U.K is a natural haven. How long do you think it would be before nice aires in British towns and villages became mini-Dale Farms?

I'm sorry, but I get tired of this constant knocking of the U.K. by people who seem totally blinkered to the facts and can only whinge about their own country. Yes, France has aires, because land costs peanuts, but it's only got aires where land is cheap. Have you tried driving along parts of the Mediterranean coast and trying to find somewhere to park, let alone an aire? Height barrier after height barrier and why is this? It's because these towns are not villages suffering from rural flight, which are desperate to get as many people as possible to use their shops, but expensive resorts where land is more expensive and where they simply cannot afford the risk of travellers lowering the tone.

Yes, France is generally a better country than the U.K for motorhoming but the reasons are mainly geographical and nothing whatsoever to do with 'corrupt councils' or non-existent tourist policies. I would suggest that you do a little research and you'll find that the U.K has very active tourist organisations that strive to increase tourism. Have you visited London and other popular tourist spots and seen the number of Chinese and Japanese and Russians and many other nationalities who flock to this country every year?

Finally, I really do object to accusations that the U.K. has corrupt councils. They may not be perfect but there is no endemic corruption in the U.K. and I would challenge you to provide some evidence for your accusation. In any country, France included, you will always turn up the odd bad apple, but the system in the U.K where, for instance, councillors must declare any interest in any planning decisions, is designed to stamp out any attempts at corruption. Yes, it may have happened thirty years ago but we only know that it happened because they were caught (T. Dan Smith and Poulson come to mind). Things have moved on since then with much tighter regulation.

Told you!!:mad2:

 

[northernspirit2001]

...dont pay it. I got a parking ticket in Italy qite a few years ago and there was no follow up, bet it works same here too.

 

[maureenandtom]

Thanks Maureenandtom..
After my little tirade yesterday I would like to post some observations, likes & dislikes from our 5 weeks touring in the UK & Europe.
Will start with the UK first.
LIKES..
I would have to say that the UK people are so friendly and obliging it was amazing.
Your roads were in the top 3 countries we drove in and your drivers are the most patient and best we come across.
One thing that we will always remember is the pub food. You don't know how good you have got it. Best quality and value for money from Mousehole to Melrose.
Every inn had local produce as fresh as. Special mentions to Ivy Bridge, Barnstable and the Kilton on Mere in Cheshire.(All were very hospitable and are Wild camping sites).
Another huge tick is your public toilets. How clean can you get them. They were five star everywhere we stopped. The pride the cleaners have in there work is all there to see.
The city of London was the cleanest I have ever been to. Take a bow.
DISLIKES..
Motorhomes are not very welcomed in some spots. In Europe they bend over backwards to get you money into the town.
The public car parks that have height barriers across them during the day with no one in them.
We would have love to stop on the coast road around Hastings way, but every town had these barriers.
Maybe the local businesses should have a say as they all missed out on our money.
OBSERVATIONS..
I notice some negative comments about your lovely country and the notion that it is better in Australia. Believe me, don't hold your breath.
I know lots of Aussie who love it here.

Little Mutt,

Thanks for your kind words about the UK. You'd think from some of the comments on the site that you'd condemned us, all of us.

Maybe you're rich and the cost doesn't matter to you but I assume you're just like the rest of us and the cost of coming here was a major, perhaps only a once in a lifetime, expense needing much saving. I do truly hope that you feel the money was well spent and I hope you go back to Oz with good, as well as bad, stories to tell.

 

[THE LITTLE MUTT]

Little Mutt,

Thanks for your kind words about the UK. You'd think from some of the comments on the site that you'd condemned us, all of us.

Maybe you're rich and the cost doesn't matter to you but I assume you're just like the rest of us and the cost of coming here was a major, perhaps only a once in a lifetime, expense needing much saving. I do truly hope that you feel the money was well spent and I hope you go back to Oz with good, as well as bad, stories to tell.

Hi maureenandtom.
Not rich at all and have struggle for years to save for this trip. We will take back 99.9% fantastic memories.
Thanks for having us.

 

[Rubbertramp]

In other words, clearly you know how to run a country.

The Daily Mash - Internet weirdos take first step towards running country

 

[maingate]

At last, someone with a sense of humour:banana:

How would you know ? :lol-061:

 

[bigpieeater]

How would you know ? :lol-061:

Dear Phil The Moderator
I am so sorry that I feel the need to reply to this message, especialy after your PM to me, you will see that, Mr Maingate has decided to add some extra fuel to the dying embers, it is obvious that he has too much time on his hands.

So, Mr Maingate, may I suggest that you keep your childish comments to yourself, unless of course you would like me to park my 'Van on your empty head!

 

[John H]

You are typical of the type of person who is in denial aren't you, along with a lot of others who appear to support your 'leftie' views, not a friend of John H are you? An ex-teacher maybe?
Try running a Business in the UK these days, not easy I'll tell you.
Paying taxes to keep the lazy sods that sit and watch Jeremy Kyle everyday is not what I set out to do, but my fellow country men (leftie socialists) seem to like it!!

Now, where is that wall, I need to bang my head on it.

Just catching up on what has been going on while I've been away - and its good to see that there are still plenty of people willing to take you on in my absence. I won't attempt to add to the debate - I think all the relevant points have been made (and of course ignored by you) but I would like to know on what basis you think that "leftie socialists" (a phrase you regard as an insult but which I wear with pride) seem to approve of the Jeremy Kyle Show. It seems you have been banging your head too violently. I do agree with you on one thing, however, and that is that free speech (within the law) should be allowed; those who don't like what is said have the freedom not to read it. But no doubt you will continue to claim that it the "lefties" who are trying to stop you spouting your nonsense even though the reality is that we are happy for you to continue to demonstrate what an idiot you are. Happy travels :raofl: