New passport system for the EU (Schengen)

barryd

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I know there were concerns about working out your 90 days etc and also concerns that if you skipped out of Schengen say into Morocco or Croatia as a way of extending your 90 days without coming home you would need to make sure you got your passport stamped but if this system is to be in place at every external Schengen border then presumably it will deal with all of that so no need to worry?

It certainly puts paid to any thoughts of perhaps winging it a bit and staying longer not that I was planning on doing that.

Will it work with our current passports?
 

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I know there were concerns about working out your 90 days etc and also concerns that if you skipped out of Schengen say into Morocco or Croatia as a way of extending your 90 days without coming home you would need to make sure you got your passport stamped but if this system is to be in place at every external Schengen border then presumably it will deal with all of that so no need to worry?

It certainly puts paid to any thoughts of perhaps winging it a bit and staying longer not that I was planning on doing that.

Will it work with our current passports?
Think passports in the last few years are designed for this ?
Experienced the biometric thingy on recent US trips . Though they still do the manual thing too which is , in my mind , self defeating
 

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Actually that reminds me. I Think my passport has expired but Mrs Ds probably has year or two on it. It will be interesting to find out if we need to update any older passports that are still valid and at what cost.
 

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Actually that reminds me. I Think my passport has expired but Mrs Ds probably has year or two on it. It will be interesting to find out if we need to update any older passports that are still valid and at what cost.
The UK started issuing biometric passports in 2010 so in theory based on the ten year life span most people should already have one :unsure:
I think the biometric ones have a camera symbol on the front ;)

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Del
 

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FWIW, Australia have had a similar system for at least a decade. No stamps, they just scan your passport and declaration card in and out. Visas are also digital, stored on the Immi system and linked to your passport number. Visitors have an Immi account and can update their passport details online or via a manual form should their passport be renewed before their visa expires. The system works really well and, personally, I welcome the EU adopting a similar system.
 

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I agree, its a good idea mainly from my point of view that I was concerned about driving into somewhere like Croatia perhaps on a B road and not getting a stamp, spending a month or two there before heading back into Schengen and then when you leave having no proof you left the zone for month. Hopefully this should prevent that.
 

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I agree, its a good idea mainly from my point of view that I was concerned about driving into somewhere like Croatia perhaps on a B road and not getting a stamp, spending a month or two there before heading back into Schengen and then when you leave having no proof you left the zone for month. Hopefully this should prevent that.


Don't see how this prevents the problem.
If there is a visa checking station then they should have stamped the passport, if not who checks the visa.

Best stick to main exit points.
 

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Don't see how this prevents the problem.
If there is a visa checking station then they should have stamped the passport, if not who checks the visa.

Best stick to main exit points.

I assume (not been) there are proper borders on all Croatias entry and exit points. I think one of the reasons this was brought in was to beef up security and to account for all entry and exits and make them faster.

Also from the article. "it’s also hoped that the scanners will spell an end to the inconsistent passport stamping that non-EU nationals living in EU countries have experienced. This has reportedly been a particular problem for Brits since Brexit who have been left “frustrated” by incorrect stamps"

Pretty sure I have seen posts from people saying they have been in and out of Schengen without a stamp. Not a problem until Brexit of course but it could be a costly one now if they think you have overstayed when you return to the UK and you cant prove you left the zone. In theory it shouldn't happen now.
 

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This does kind of force folks to now stick to the main routes as has been mentioned above. No more bimbling your way across borders as before.
 

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This does kind of force folks to now stick to the main routes as has been mentioned above. No more bimbling your way across borders as before.

I think the internal Schengen borders wont change for us, you will still be able to bimble in and out its when you leave or enter Schengen that security and checks is beefed up.
 

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Yes I knew that Barry, my bad...I was on about Schengen borders with the outside world!
 

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Yes I knew that Barry, my bad...I was on about Schengen borders with the outside world!

I dont think you could just meander out or in of Schengen before though. I think the issue I was concerned about is people were saying their passports were not getting stamped.
 
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Don't see how this prevents the problem.
If there is a visa checking station then they should have stamped the passport, if not who checks the visa.

Best stick to main exit points.
A visa won’t allow you to travel throughout the Schengen zone for more than the 90/180 limit, you would need to apply for a visa for each country you want to visit.
 

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