New LPG Tank Installation

[Geek]

So why did you do an unnecessary replacement.

Because it looked very rusty. Turned out it was very very solid metal but that was hard to tell until it was off.
We all make mistakes. Learn from mine.

 

[Geek]

slightly underselling yourself a kg of lpg is just under 2ltrs i believe 1.95 so without being anal<your 38 ltr tank is over 19 kg nearer 20 i would think

You have to take 20% off the water capacity to allow for ullage space, then half the result to get the kg LPG capacity.. That is 15kg.
My 70 litre tank holds 28kg.

 

[trevskoda]

Because it looked very rusty. Turned out it was very very solid metal but that was hard to tell until it was off.
We all make mistakes. Learn from mine.

£25/30 should pay for blasting and a coat of zink rich 2 pack epoxy followed by a good coat of poly 2 pack finish.

 

[YeoBlade]

£25/30 should pay for blasting and a coat of zink rich 2 pack epoxy followed by a good coat of poly 2 pack finish.

Not a price I recall around here , I had to have a 10" three way valve repainted as it was black not potable water (water industry) blue. £150 power coated, no blasting. £30's the admin fee.

 

[trevskoda]

Not a price I recall around here , I had to have a 10" three way valve repainted as it was black not potable water (water industry) blue. £150 power coated, no blasting. £30's the admin fee.

Very expensive, and powder coating is no use for outside stuff, best only on internal banisters or chair legs etc, out side is eithe 2 pack or cloranated rubber.
One i did earler.

 

[RSD7a]

Did you do all box sections including inside doors a posts sills etc, steel rust from inside out as no primer or paint in there from new.

As I understand it all later model sevel vans are now galvanised. Some argue that additional treatments like Dinitrol and Lanoguard etc are a waste on these vehicles as rust wise they are already well protected.

 

[YeoBlade]

As I understand it all later model sevel vans are now galvanised. Some argue that additional treatments like Dinitrol and Lanoguard etc are a waste on these vehicles as rust wise they are already well protected.

Sevel models from what year, the van I've recently sold, was 2011 and I had to have rust holes in the drivers door sill welded over, the rest looked OK, I kindly filled the sills with Dinitrol after welded up, for the next owner

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Galv or not stone chips need attention ASAP or it will rust away.

 

[RSD7a]

Sevel models from what year, the van I've recently sold, was 2011 and I had to have rust holes in the drivers door sill welded over, the rest looked OK, I kindly filled the sills with Dinitrol after welded up, for the next owner View attachment 149772

Decent of you to add the Dinitrol.
I had a 2004 Ducato which rusted to bits. Here's an AI reply. Take as you wish!

Sevel vans, including the Peugeot Boxer, Citroën Jumper, and Fiat Ducato, started getting galvanized treatment in 2006, with the introduction of the Euro 4 models. This is when the manufacturers implemented more comprehensive rust protection measures, including galvanized body panels.

Prior to 2006, rust protection varied, and many models, like those from the mid-2000s, were known to rust more easily, as you've experienced with your Ducato.

 

[YeoBlade]

Galv or not stone chips need attention ASAP or it will rust away.

Yes. This one rusted from the inside out, the perfect paint started to discolour, orange rust slowly, it wasn't damaged, then, came back from a MOT and the bugger pushed his screwdriver though to make the hole, which wasn't even mentioned on the MOT cert.

 

[trevskoda]

As I understand it all later model sevel vans are now galvanised. Some argue that additional treatments like Dinitrol and Lanoguard etc are a waste on these vehicles as rust wise they are already well protected.

Not hot dip galv, its electro plate type and may give a we bit extra, you must protect with a anti rust like lanolin/dinitrol etc.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

We had a 05 Bessie that needed the sills welding.

 

[Essex Pair]

We got an under slung gas tank from Autogas which we have found to be brilliant in France, Spain and Portugal. We had a connection fitted in the old gas cupboard for a 907 gas bottle which we could change to in Morocco.

 

[Nabsim]

Not at 80% Ken lololol
I think they quote 15.2kg

Just for info if anyone doesn't realise:
Cylinders are sold with the 80% fill already accounted for
Underslung tanks are not quoted at 80%

So, if you could buy a 10lts cylinder it would be sold as an 8ltr cylinder, a 10ltr tank would be sold as 10ltr. Things are not equal

 

[clive1]

Hi
We have a 2018 Globecar Campscout with diesel heating and use 2 x 6KG propane for fridge and cooking. The Calor bottles are fine for 3 to 4 weeks but we are looking to travel overseas for longer and so a tank seems to be a possible solution.

I have contacted Autogas 2000 who have suggested a 30L underslung tank and to use 1 x 6Kg propane as a reserve. Cost will be around £1100.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks

the larger the tank you have room for the better (and the more you save on refills over bottles )
we have an 80 litre tank, and have never ever got close to needing an urgent refill,
despite not economising on usage of our gas, cooking, heating, fridge, BBQ, use,
when away for weeks
bigger is better

 

[Harrers]

While in France we carry 2 13kg bottles of propane (we use Primagas) and when we arrive in England we head straight to my sister's house where I swap them for a 13kg Calor bottle (red - propane). This seems to be fatter and I don't think we would be able to get 2 in the gas compartment. Makes life a bit difficult trying to guess when it will run out. Last year we paid around £60 for refills but so far this year the first was £28 at a builders' merchant in Liverpool. When it needs replacing I think I will phone round to get the best price available locally to wherever we are.

 

[TJBi]

While in France we carry 2 13kg bottles of propane (we use Primagas) and when we arrive in England we head straight to my sister's house where I swap them for a 13kg Calor bottle (red - propane). This seems to be fatter and I don't think we would be able to get 2 in the gas compartment. Makes life a bit difficult trying to guess when it will run out. Last year we paid around £60 for refills but so far this year the first was £28 at a builders' merchant in Liverpool. When it needs replacing I think I will phone round to get the best price available locally to wherever we are.

That's where a refillable system comes into its own.

 

[Geek]

I've not got why peeps have a big tank tbh, you end up using more, if you have more, we've been away a week and used 18l, but had the fire and oven on every night but one, topped up 3 times, may need another to get home.

My old tank was 100 litres. I replaced it with a 70 litre because the old one hung a bit low: it was by far the lowest point of the van.
A 70 litre tank is 28KG. That is enough for nearly two months in winter - or a whole summer, unless we need the gennie running the aircon: that can eat three litres a day.
Generally, it allows us to top up when passing lpg at a sensible price. Given that LPG varies between 65p and 130p per litre, depending on location, that's significant.

 

[Geek]

I have been there when 3 year old rusted through tanks have been removed though.

There are always edge cases. You aren't suggesting replacing tanks before three years, are you?
Mine was nearer fifteen when it was replaced. It was in fine fettle, despite being Italian steel.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

One of the beuties of the 6kg tank is 12 @ £1.30 = £15.60 and 12 @ £0.85 (cheapest we've seen lately) = £10.20, and as we usually find one at around half full, it isn't worth looking for cheapest, nearest along our route is far more important, Diesel is far more expensive and we use a hell of a lot more of that.