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In England, there has never been any time limit on exercise. The regulations state:

"Restrictions on movement
6.—(1) During the emergency period, no person may leave the place where they are living without reasonable excuse.

(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1), a reasonable excuse includes the need—

(a)to obtain basic necessities, including food and medical supplies for those in the same household (including any pets or animals in the household) or for vulnerable persons and supplies for the essential upkeep, maintenance and functioning of the household, or the household of a vulnerable person, or to obtain money, including from any business listed in Part 3 of Schedule 2;

(b)to take exercise either alone or with other members of their household;

...".

Government ministers and others have then given their own guidelines, often conflicting (even on the same day, with one minister saying that you could travel by car in order to exercise or walk a dog and another saying that you could not). The regulations do not prohibit travel by motor vehicle in order to exercise. Nor do the regulations limit the nature of the exercise to walking or cycling.
 
channa said:
Thank you I thought I was going mad but I have seen no mention that excercise has been extended from one hour per day.

Re the 30,000 deaths IMO that only tells part of the story, there will be death certificates filled in with other co morbidities but covid not mentioned despite covid being the underlying cause

One thing to my knowledge any of the press have picked up on is the variability of the R number throughout the country
Sir Patrick Vallance openly admitted .6 -.9 was a probable figure on a national average some areas being +1 which equates to infection exponentially growing.

Surely until all the country is -1 any talk of lockdown is irrelevant because their is risk of a second wave ...if they relax lockdown now we can expect to see a second wave
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I am sure there will be a second wave, you only have to read threads such as this.
 
Fazerloz said:
RIght from the start it has been 1hr exercise per day. But it doesn't suit some so they try to bend and twist the directives meanings to suit themselves. Would you really have wanted the lock down to be as harsh as such as Spain's has been. Or to be treated like reasonable responsible adults to do the right thing.
It would seem many need to be put in shackles and hobbled.
30,000 dead in just over a month.
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the one hour per day was advice only, there is no time limit or frequency limit in the health protection law
 
The very fact that people are interpreting the regulations differently means that the government have not made things as clear as they should be.
If the lockdown rules are clear and unambiguous, there would be less opportunity to bend them to suit ones own purpose.
 
Fazerloz said:
Does everything have to be set out in law before people do the right thing. As I said in another thread do people need telling to take their pants down to take a £$%^.
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Very clever phraseology. I don't see how it has any relevance, however, to how one should behave in a pandemic, unless one of the symptoms is diarrhea.
 
channa said:
I thought guidance was bike dog or walk excercise should be limited to one hour a day ?
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It was never that strictly limited Andrew... the hour was a suggested average and reasonable amount of time that was given firstly in response to some journo who was trying to drill down for a specific figure. It was later backed up by ministers/officials but it's still technically a guideline. Different people have different needs and the government know that.

I see so many people complaining that we're not being spoon-fed with specific minutes or mileage on a bike when the idea seemed to be for us to work out for ourselves as grown ups what a reasonable amount of daily exercise would be for each of us without taking liberties or risks. Ditto with the driving somewhere to get some exercise. We all know there are people who haven't got access to the countryside, who don't have parks within walking distance. In the same (mean) spirit of journalism in trying to pin the government's wings to a board, they demanded a detailed, every possible combination of circumstances type answer. People were reassured that they were allowed to drive somewhere to exercise if there were no local facilities but the drive really shouldn't exceed the length of the walk. It's so very obvious... don't take liberties and drive 100 miles to walk on a beach for half an hour. Why do people refuse to see the spirit and essence of the instructions and why doesn't everyone stop shooting us all in the foot by complaining and subsequently risk us having further privileges taken away.

Despite all the trixsy protests, I'm confident everyone on here is smart enough to understand exactly where we all stand... or maybe no-one else watches the daily briefings or looks on the .gov website? Look, truth be told I'm truly tired of all the nit-picking - hence this little melt-down - and all I want to do is get out of this alive, so I can go back out in my van, see other actual human beings and enjoy life again. Meanwhile, don't shout too loud about what we can and can't have because it just makes some people more militant and they're the ones who will stick two fingers up to us all and go and do exactly as they please... then we all lose out.

Apologies for the rant. I'm going to switch off the computer now... the incessant negativity has just about done my head in today - especially Facebook. It's not like I've anyone at home to talk to and cheer me up again.
 
antiquesam said:
Very clever phraseology. I don't see how it has any relevance, however, to how one should behave in a pandemic, unless one of the symptoms is diarrhea.
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I guess there's non as blind as them that don't want to see then. If you don't see the relevance.
 
channa said:
I thought guidance was bike dog or walk excercise should be limited to one hour a day ?
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But only Wales has made that mandatory. In England it has the status of Matt Hancocks recommendation...which gives barrack room lawyers plenty of room for manoeuvre.
 
yorkslass said:
The whole shebang is as clear as mud.

2 meter distancing
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Well, yes. The 2 metres was an arbitrary figure in the first place. Research now suggests that it should be more like 3 or 4 metres. Seems that the virus drifts on the air, rather than spraying in a sneeze. It drifts like the fumes from someone vaping. They travel a lot further than two metres.

And even then, people don't seem to get it. Supermarkets painting lines every two metres: that's not two metres of separation.

People are about half a metre wide and a quarter metre deep when standing, so the lines would have to be at least 2.5 metres apart to maintain 2 metre separation, as long as nobody was moving.

If people are moving around, you need to add another metre or two between the lines.
 
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