Mixed messages

trevskoda said:
The other day when out shopping a long string of classic cars passed us,must have been on a run or a meetup somewhere,no one her gives a feck and police have but all vanished.
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Yet NI seems to be doing better than the rest of the UK in the infection/death rates if the stats are to be believed? :unsure:🤨

And the messages have been mixed.

Maybe it is all down to interpretation, but if "your man" says it's OK to drive to a destination and take exercise as long as it takes longer than the drive what do you expect people to do?!

A lot of the 'instructions' have been as clear as mud, imho, and certainly left wide open to interpretation.
 
channa said:
I thought guidance was bike dog or walk excercise should be limited to one hour a day ?
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There you go, Andrew, perfect example of the confusion and mixed messages that still abound.
Followed by "you can drive to exercise, as long as the drive is not longer than the exercise" - but NOT qualified by saying the exercise must only be an hour long, a ridiculous and arbitrary rule on time anyway, imho.

And who exactly is going to be able to police this? :unsure: 🤨🧐👮‍♀️👮‍♂️
 
The police presence has much diminished round here now. Very difficult to enforce when a large proportion of people living in the Manchester and South Yorkshire conurbations can drive here in less than 59 minutes and go for an hours walk. Hopefully it won’t lead to the congestion of cars and people we had at the start of lockdown. The Park Authority keeping the car parks closed may deter some, but many won’t be aware before they get here. If I was playing devils advocate I could claim that although the 1 hour limit on exercise is only a recommendation and not mandatory (except in Wales) I could technically drive 2 or 3 hours for a days walk. It may have helped police forces with interpretation if some numerical limit had been placed on drive distance or time.
 
mariesnowgoose said:
Yet NI seems to be doing better than the rest of the UK in the infection/death rates if the stats are to be believed? :unsure:🤨

And the messages have been mixed.

Maybe it is all down to interpretation, but if "your man" says it's OK to drive to a destination and take exercise as long as it takes longer than the drive what do you expect people to do?!

A lot of the 'instructions' have been as clear as mud, imho, and certainly left wide open to interpretation.
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The whole shebang is as clear as mud.

2 meter distancing unless you go back to work and you can't avoid being closer......so that makes it ok then

2 meter rule unless your on a plane ( today's news) jam packed.....a representative from the airline said they were exceptionally busy......so that makes it ok then

2 meter rule on the tube in London.......as above

Every one of these actions increases the risk of transmitting this disease but no one is brought to book or prosecuted,

It makes a mockery of the lockdown......it's like doing half a job.

Rant over....for now
 
yorkslass said:
It makes a mockery of the lockdown......it's like doing half a job.

Rant over....for now
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Exactly!

I think the problem is that the current government hasn't taken a 'state' approach, but a much more 'hands off' approach and therefore have not been really hardline at all.

Right now I cannot decide whether this has been a good or bad thing, but as a 'halfway house' it has been hellish confusing! ;)😁:cool:
 
The countries that have the virus under control now certainly had unambiguous guidelines from the beginning and were much quicker to close their borders, take New Zealand as an example.
I don’t think that the police chiefs have helped matters by throwing their various interpretations into the mix.
 
What makes a mockery is this, i know of 2 nhs nurses 1 who has had a garden party and another who has had a house party, but yet we are all staying in like good little people to help the nhs!!!
 
I think I might be a little controversial here but I'm getting heartily fed up with all this can't do enough for the brave NHS. Well those on the front line in the Covid wards with the ICU experience and the cleaners and porters who have to deal with it are heroes, but on the back of this bravery many thousands of others are reaping the benefits when they are probably doing less because there patients aren't turning up or they are so far removed from the front line when the people in care homes, the storm troopers, are completely forgotten about.
 
RIght from the start it has been 1hr exercise per day. But it doesn't suit some so they try to bend and twist the directives meanings to suit themselves. Would you really have wanted the lock down to be as harsh as such as Spain's has been. Or to be treated like reasonable responsible adults to do the right thing.
It would seem many need to be put in shackles and hobbled.
30,000 dead in just over a month.
 
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The Chief Constables Council laid down the drive to walk rule. It isn't someone bending the rules. So many people seem to becoming paranoid about what effect other people's actions are doing to them without actually keeping up with the latest instructions.
You only have to read Facebook to see the vitriol spit out at someone who admits to buying a pot of paint or an Easter egg.
 
Fazerloz said:
I suggest you read the Gov latest guidelines as of 1st May.
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As someone says. Mixed messages. If a rozzer stops me I'd rather quote the Chief Constable Council edict than Mr Hancock on the 1st May because he is likely to change his mind mid sentence. He did quote the guidelines when objecting to the Times article about over 70's and changed the guidelines on 1st May to cover his misreading.
 
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Fazerloz said:
RIght from the start it has been 1hr exercise per day. But it doesn't suit some so they try to bend and twist the directives meanings to suit themselves. Would you really have wanted the lock down to be as harsh as such as Spain's has been. Or to be treated like reasonable responsible adults to do the right thing.
It would seem many need to be put in shackles and hobbled.
30,000 dead in just over a month.
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Thank you I thought I was going mad but I have seen no mention that excercise has been extended from one hour per day.

Re the 30,000 deaths IMO that only tells part of the story, there will be death certificates filled in with other co morbidities but covid not mentioned despite covid being the underlying cause

One thing to my knowledge any of the press have picked up on is the variability of the R number throughout the country
Sir Patrick Vallance openly admitted .6 -.9 was a probable figure on a national average some areas being +1 which equates to infection exponentially growing.

Surely until all the country is -1 any talk of lockdown is irrelevant because their is risk of a second wave ...if they relax lockdown now we can expect to see a second wave
 
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