Lost confidence

Minisorella said:
Oh dear, here we go. I distinctly remember when lockdown was first being talked about that the public were incredibly anti any measures like that. The government were bombarded with people saying it would be total overkill for something akin to flu. It took a good couple of weeks of one-at-a-time little steps towards lockdown to get the public used to the idea without causing anarchy. I also wish lockdown had been imposed when the government first wanted it but they took the path of treading gently and building up to it, to get buy-in and cooperation. To be brutally honest, those who now complain that lockdown should have been imposed sooner should remember that they were always free to use their common sense and put themselves in lockdown at any time they wanted before the final step was officially announced... as I did.
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me 2 for 15 weeks and more, ok.pj keep going
 
antiquesam said:
You seem to be saying that the virus is lurking out in the undergrowth waiting to pounce on anyone silly enough venture out.
In the places where the virus has spiked it seems the cause is indoors, with noise, low temperatures and moisture. Strangely the positive tests aren't being reflected in hospital admissions.
The crowded beaches shown two weeks ago haven't produced the increased cases predicted by some.
Everyone must do what they feel safe with and if that means bricking up the doors and windows so be it, but please don't criticise others for doing what they feel safe with.
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wait there is time, another two weeks, then you will no, stick with it, no go as yet, dont be a yeti, or you will geti. ok.pj. stay clear, youse the in word.
 
barryd said:
Not my reflection of it either. I seem to remember a lot of people back in March screaming for Johnson to do something and lock down as were the World Health Organisation and other countries like Italy. Meanwhile our hapless PM was bragging about shaking hands in hospitals where there were coronavirus patients and mumbling on about "taking it on the chin" before low and behold nearly dying of Coronavirus himself.

I think there is little doubt that back then they were still farting about with this heard immunity strategy but they then wasted those precious couple of weeks before bottling it and locking down. That was the big mistake. Experts reckon tens of thousands of lives could have been saved just by locking down a week or two earlier but now probably over 60000 people are dead as a result of not doing so. Since then its been one cock up after another. Sending untested patients from hospitals back into care homes was just unbelievable. Lying about PPE stocks, Counting a nose and mouth swab of one person as two tests, the list goes on and on.

Ill get accused of Tory and Johnson bashing no doubt now but lets face it, they cocked up big style and will continue to do so by the looks of it. You cant shout hindsight either as we sat and watched it coming like rabbits in the headlights.
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yes you will, but all brushes youse the same tar, not politics, one is no better than the other, if it is not rite, ok.its my say, im saying in ,ok.pj.
 
antiquesam said:
They are testing everyone in the food processing plants and therefore should know contacts.
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what a bout liverpool and bournemouth, the i stand on the edge,but how many were there, who would know, only time will tell rite now, ok.pj stand clear.
 
antiquesam said:
I'm merely interpreting your second paragraph.
Where the spikes are occurring the hospital admissions aren't spiking at the same rate and the spikes aren't being seen where people are congregating outside but in food processing factories and sweat shops
Perhaps the answer to beating the virus would be to give up meat, processed food and cheap clothing.
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or snuffing it, dead beats all ok.pj. stay away from pro meat,try rabbiting,
 
Once again, people are missing the point. Lockdown is not when you stay at home to avoid catching the disease. That's self-isolating and it only protects the person doing it.

Lockdown is getting everyone to change their behaviour to stop the disease spreading at all. If everyone did that, the disease would be wiped out within three weeks. Some jobs really are essential, so that can't happen in the UK.

These concepts are not difficult to grasp. All users of this forum could understand them, so there's another reason for dissing people who say the government screwed up: political blinkers.
 
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Moonraker 2 said:
Having been confined to home exclusively for the last three months with only a couple of days out, I have found myself losing the confidence to free camp. This feeling has been exacerbated by the stories of people in Wales and Cornwall and elsewhere actively and in some cases physically discouraging visitors.
I thought I would book a couple of days in a campsite but school holidays are upon us and campsites are already saying they are likely to be full.
I expect a couple of short trips locally might restore my confidence but I wondered if anyone else was feeling a little shaky.
I certainly won't be going abroad this year.
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Hi moonraker
I feel exactly the same and I’m sure we will not be alone. I have never been in a Supermarket fir three months, I tried it three weeks ago and I was followed around the aisles with an old lady nearly

against me she didn’t seem to bother, I asked her twice to keep back. I was wearing a mask and gloves but I actually took palpitations could’ve wait to get back to my own “bubble”
I still think we are the safest in our Motorhome
We will get used to face coverings
Keep safe,
 
I believe if people sit too long in the bubble it will become more of a problem to actually get back out - people would be better finding somewhere close to home getting a couple of nights in to help them relax and you can always go home if not comfortable but that is my personal view
 
mfw said:
I believe if people sit too long in the bubble it will become more of a problem to actually get back out - people would be better finding somewhere close to home getting a couple of nights in to help them relax and you can always go home if not comfortable but that is my personal view
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Yes, I feel like I have become institutionalised in my own home!
 
If nothing else this little problem has produced some new meanings to words like bubble, lockdown and isolate. I'm only just getting to grips with bame and woke. I hope it's a while before something else comes along.
 
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Well no guarantees you can duck this even with minimal contact - statistics speak for themselves - accept and proceed with caution or you will have no life at all - well until they have a vaccine
 
mfw said:
Well no guarantees you can duck this even with minimal contact - statistics speak for themselves - accept and proceed with caution or you will have no life at all - well until they have a vaccine
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To describe staying at home as "no life at all" is a bit sad. I like staying at home. If i didn't, I'd find somewhere else to live. Wouldn't you?
 
in h said:
To describe staying at home as "no life at all" is a bit sad. I like staying at home. If i didn't, I'd find somewhere else to live. Wouldn't you?
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What i mean is if you cant do anything you might as well be in a care home make life easy dont bother travelling and visiting places then - your choice
 
Can't do anything? I'm working through a huge backlog of jobs that needed doing, but were always being put off with going away so often.
If lockdown lasted another couple of years, I might catch up!
 
I think everyone has to decide for themselves what they feel comfortable doing as regards the virus.

Personally, I shall proceed with extreme caution. I trust none of the folk 'at the top' telling us what we should do next, whatever their job title.
Will trust to my own nose, thank you. From what I can see they are merely feeling their way along. Not even sure they're doing that, tbh.

Anyway, as we are now in deep doo-doo economically (inevitable from the outset, as boss-man Phil predicted all those months ago) then we shall just have to make the best of it.

I know a few who won't be setting foot outside their house ever again until a vaccine is available.

Not for me, life is too short anyway. But I certainly won't be judging anyone who decides that's what they want to do.

I remember being judged only a few weeks ago for saying that I wouldn't be locking myself indoors and would take careful & cautious chances on venturing out. Accused me of being a selfish barsteward, I seem to recall.

Now we're all expected to venture out, and even to go back to work, vulnerable or not(!), even though we keep being told at the same time that 'the virus has not gone away!' followed by dire warnings about a 'second spike'. I have several retorts I could make to all those telling us how we should be living our lives (and frequently contradicting each other), but sadly none can be made before the 9pm watershed. ;) 😜 Hmm. Do we still have a watershed? I strongly suspect not... 😉😂
 
We are in North Devon just now in a Caravan club site. They seem to have it pretty sussed. The only thing I don't like is the use of the hand dryer so we take our own towel down and have not showered. We are keeping away from busy places. Shop keepers seem to have it sussed down here as well.
Illfracome was really busy today so we did not stop. It is about carrying out your own risk assessment. If i can't keep two meters away then it is a no go. We have also been carrying hand gel around with us but most of the shops have this and are asking you to pay by contactless. I have to say people been very friendly and seem pleased to see us back. We have not been in any pubs or restaurants as we don't feel comfortable enough with that yet. It is all about doing what you feel is safe. We are having a great time so glad to be back out in the van again
 
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