Lockdown- but out in the MoHo

[2cv]

Doesnt necessarily follow that its spreading because some people are not abiding by the rules. The rules in general are contradictory, & still allow for transmission of virus. If every single person followed official "orders" the virus would still spread.

The rules are indeed contradictory, not helped by the fact that they vary around the United Kingdom, and do still mean the virus will be transmitted. However if people follow them, the rate of transmission is greatly reduced.

 

[2cv]

I never knew this where was this.
And it serves to underline what we are trying to say.
How sad, and my mates a member of the Loch Lomond team.
They had to get three idiots of Ben Lomond last week.
No crampons, or proper gear
All three fined For breeching the rules.

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[Fisherman]

I never knew this where was this.
And it serves to underline what we are trying to say.
How sad, and my mates a member of the Loch Lomond team.
They had to get three idiots of Ben Lomond last week.
No crampons, or proper gear
All three fined For breeching the rules.

I have just sent this to my mate Bill, I don’t know if he knows, he probably will.
But these two should be dealt with properly. A £200 fine is nowhere sufficient.
But I just wonder how they feel now, knowing what they have created due to their totally selfish behaviour, which some seem to think is acceptable.

 

[Nabsim]

Well, as I said when the first lockdown came in, people just need to have and use common sense. You can have Covid and not know about it, don’t forget that, not all cases have serious or even any effect on you.
To be registered as a Covid death you only need to have shown a positive test within 28 days, you do not even need to have any symptoms. If reporting was a bit more relevant it would mean more to me but telling the truth is too hard it seems.
Before anyone says anything, I am not one of these conspiracy theorists, I do believe Covid is real. I also remember as a kid being scared to death of smallpox after lots of deaths (was it Birmingham) and terrified of nuclear war long before becoming a teenager., my dad was in the Civil Defence.
When your time is up that’s it, fate will win out in the end.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Most of us are being sensible and trying to follow the rules to the best of our abilities and individual personal circumstances.

I'm keeping everything crossed that the various vaccines busily being churned out worldwide will eventually help gain some control over a nasty disease.
Science is having to take part in an Olympic sprint, or is it now a worldwide marathon?

There is one guy from history who might have been able to stop the spread of the virus.
Think he was called Canute, or something?

 

[trevskoda]

Trev, theres a massive difference between that and heading out miles from your home to another town city or village just because you reckon it’s ok. We have to eat and survive. Some ESSENTIAL travel for supplies or to supply is unavoidable, but deciding to take a jaunt out somewhere for pleasure is and should be avoided.

Yes true, but you are allowed to go out for exercise, apart from our local playing fields which is humming like a wasps nest i travel to just outside Larne where there is a large park and many walks, i may only see 5/6 people on the walks, this takes a round trip of around 25 miles all in, i do get your point on some folks going way out of there way for many miles with no good reason.

 

[trevskoda]

Most of us are being sensible and trying to follow the rules to the best of our abilities and individual personal circumstances.

I'm keeping everything crossed that the various vaccines busily being churned out worldwide will eventually help gain some control over a nasty disease.
Science is having to take part in an Olympic sprint, or is it now a worldwide marathon?

There is one guy from history who might have been able to stop the spread of the virus.
Think he was called Canute, or something?

Canute, look SEA here you are creating big WAVES which are unstoppable.

 

[Fisherman]

Yes true, but you are allowed to go out for exercise, apart from our local playing fields which is humming like a wasps nest i travel to just outside Larne where there is a large park and many walks, i may only see 5/6 people on the walks, this takes a round trip of around 25 miles all in, i do get your point on some folks going way out of there way for many miles with no good reason.

Trev, it’s a case of what’s achievable and what is practicable. If the government told us all to stay in and only go out once a week for shopping, then that would do more harm than good, and who would abide by that. And then most would simply do their own thing. I reckon we can and should all have our opinions, but I try to do as I am told. I have lost a good friend to Covid, and a good neighbour. The light is clearly showing at the end of the tunnel, let’s try and limit the horrible damage already done.

 

[yorkieowl]

Years ago before vaccines were even thought about, diseases and plagues were rampant and they ran their course and society recovered.
So, how did society recover and these plagues die out? Because people eventually realised that the disease spread from one to another and they understood that some form of quarantine worked to reduce the spread. Eventually good old fashioned social responsibility won the day, and nowhere was more socially responsible than a little village up North called Eyam in 1665
The quickly realised how the disease spread and the whole village quarantined itself till the plaque had died out.
They lost half the population but it didn’t spread.
It’s a shame now that some people have forgotten that it’s not just about them and still think they should be allowed to do as they like just because they are bored by staying home.

I think you'll find the plague is still around in the world, they just keep a very close check on it. Smallpox on the other hand has died out, mainly due to vaccination.

 

[chyperie]

Used our camper last week when we went for our vaccinations. Nearest centre was 20 mile away our appointments were 3 hours apart. We took the camper sat in it between appointments, had a cup of coffee and used the loo! Seemed a sensible thing to do!

 

[maingate]

Years ago before vaccines were even thought about, diseases and plagues were rampant and they ran their course and society recovered.
So, how did society recover and these plagues die out? Because people eventually realised that the disease spread from one to another and they understood that some form of quarantine worked to reduce the spread. Eventually good old fashioned social responsibility won the day, and nowhere was more socially responsible than a little village up North called Eyam in 1665
The quickly realised how the disease spread and the whole village quarantined itself till the plaque had died out.
They lost half the population but it didn’t spread.
It’s a shame now that some people have forgotten that it’s not just about them and still think they should be allowed to do as they like just because they are bored by staying home.

The word quarantine comes from Spanish. Sailing ships from Spain were made to sit offshore for 40 days before being allowed into Port. So quarantine means to isolate for 40 days. This was a measure used against the Plague.

 

[Fisherman]

Just talked to my mate about the mountain rescuer injured.
He should survive, but his injuries are life changing.
He may not regain the use of some or any of his limbs, due to spinal damage.
Its early days, but here’s hoping it does not come to that.

I asked him what will happen financially for him, and apparently the police cover this.

 

[Nesting Zombie]

ooops, sorry wrong thread

 

[mariesnowgoose]

I've said it in another thread, worth saying again.

Give the offenders a short, sharp prison sentence as well as a fine.
That might help get the message across.

Or - and this would be my choice, preferably after the prison sentence first - mandatory community service with immediate effect.
Off down the hospital helping on the covid wards. A few weeks of experiencing the front line and portering dead bodies to the mortuaries might get the message through to their singularly selfish and stupid brain cells.

Judgemental? Yes I am, and quite happy to stand accused in this particular instance.

After all, the person who came to their rescue has ended up with life changing injuries, and for what reason?!

Edit: apologies NZ, this has nothing to do with harmless motorhomes out parked up for a cuppa and a change of scenery!
Honest, guv, it were that Fisherman wot started it by going off piste....!

 

[Nesting Zombie]

And BREATH,,,,Just Breath WOOOOOSSAAAAA

 

[maingate]

Blimey, talk about 12 angry men?

It may happen that these two are working and could lose their jobs over this affair. That will cost them a lot more than £200. They will probably lose a lot of friends (the decent ones), I certainly hope there is some kind of backlash to their stupidity.

The problem is that there are plenty more like them.

 

[trevskoda]

Correct, lads out on mountain bikes on the rocky hills, exercise means a walk or lite duties, not trying to conquer the Himalayas.

 

[Robmac]

Blimey, talk about 12 angry men?

It may happen that these two are working and could lose their jobs over this affair. That will cost them a lot more than £200. They will probably lose a lot of friends (the decent ones), I certainly hope there is some kind of backlash to their stupidity.

The problem is that there are plenty more like them.

We may be being a tad harsh Jim, but when you consider that you can be jailed for offending somebody these days, £200 does seem very lenient in the circumstances.

String 'em up I say!

 

[mariesnowgoose]

I have lost a good friend to Covid, and a good neighbour. The light is clearly showing at the end of the tunnel, let’s try and limit the horrible damage already done.

A lot of us are in exactly the same boat, Bill, and yes it is horrible.

An educated guess tells me that 99% of people posting in here are trying their very best to bide by the rules and "limit the damage".
Folk in here already understand what we need to be doing, so in reality you are preaching to the converted.

Non-converts won't be wasting their time reading these threads, and they certainly won't be converted by anything you or I might try to say by way of persuasion.

 

[Nesting Zombie]

It’s simply a case of -
Look after You & Yours, if circumstance & safe opportunity arrises then do what might be considered a ‘Social Responsibility’ & offer guidance to others that are obviously flouting the Law Or Common Sense behaviour. But then Stop, Walk away & get on with ‘YOUR’ life & Affairs.
As Arguing, Quoting Figures & Playing Ping Ping with Reasoning for others actions will often just wind ‘You’ up.
Let the powers that be take action on who they consider requires it, & let the accused argue the point if they feel their actions are defendable in court.

OH look it’s Tea & Donut time , in my Motorhome