Jimmy Carrs tax avoidance

Alf Hookham said:
Does anyone have any idea what this loony is bleeting on about?:lol-053:
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It is always such a pleasure to debate with an articulate and erudite person..............................................................so I'll find someone else then, shall I? :wave:

A piece of advice - before insulting somebody, read what they say and you will avoid falling on your face quite so many times in the future. Maingate, I am sure, is perfectly capable of speaking for himself but until he does you might like to re-read his post. He criticised you for not adding to the contributions on motorhoming (eg wilding sites, technical advice etc) NOT for not being a motorhomer. There are plenty of idiots who live in motorhomes. :lol-061:
 
He is a businessman but fulltimes.

He is fulltiming but has North Yorkshire in his location.

I smell something. Something with whiskers and a long tail.

This is what Care in the Community gets you. Those big houses provided more containment.
 
John H said:
It is always such a pleasure to debate with an articulate and erudite person..............................................................so I'll find someone else then, shall I? :wave:

A piece of advice - before insulting somebody, read what they say and you will avoid falling on your face quite so many times in the future. Maingate, I am sure, is perfectly capable of speaking for himself but until he does you might like to re-read his post. He criticised you for not adding to the contributions on motorhoming (eg wilding sites, technical advice etc) NOT for not being a motorhomer. There are plenty of idiots who live in motorhomes. :lol-061:
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Insult?
Where?
You are very strange...do you have anything else to do?
 
Northerner said:
Well, we have an education system and we have a health service so quite clearly there is enough money. And I hope that there will always be enough for our armed forces otherwise we'd be conversing in German or Russian today. I object to the high level of taxes but they're a necessary evil. We have to look after the weakest in society and we have to have a welfare system, and that by the way, is where the biggest slice of the tax cake goes. What we need to do is reduce the massive welfare bill by getting people back to work and clamping down hard on the scroungers, such as the bloke in Derby with sixteen kids who's never worked and recently demanded a bigger council house.

And yes, we need to clamp down on tax evasion as well before we get the usual responses, but a system where the state takes over half of what you earn in direct and indirect taxes stifles expansion and growth and then, if you've a decent sum left when you pop off, the buggers get their claws into that as well! Disgraceful!
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There is not enough money and just because a service exists is not evident that the infatructure is a success by any measure.
Both the health and education system as well as other important services have been cut and effected but has tax been cut?
No they want to increase tax but have failed to manage their books anyway so how are they going to manage the books with more tax money?

We were a rich country and had enough money but the system gambled with that money not jo blogs paying 1% tax or claiming the dole.

It sickens me that they have the arrogance to just think they can just tax the richer more or anyone more for that matter!
These people have worked and succeeded if they try to tax them more they will just move away.
It has become evident by the world recession that the system does not work and has failed.
Blaming someone on benefits does not make the problem their responsibility in fact its a farse even a smoke screen.
It has worked perfectly as people in this thread a blaming others and hating others even resorting to personal insults from the safety of their computer keyboards.

If we are all in this together why has the Queen not bailed out her so called Great Britain?
I wonder how much tax she pays!
How many politicians have been cut or their wages?
Economic slavery does not balance the books its all a farse.
 
maingate said:
He is a businessman but fulltimes.

He is fulltiming but has North Yorkshire in his location.

I smell something. Something with whiskers and a long tail.

This is what Care in the Community gets you. Those big houses provided more containment.
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????
Would you like me to update the location each time I move?
You have gate in your name, does this make you a swinger?:lol-053:
Jonh H just has john H....probably very little imagination I think.
You two really suit each other :shag:
 
Alf Hookham said:
Insult?
Where?
You are very strange...do you have anything else to do?
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Ah, so all that stuff about loony lefties and "who's the fool now" (plus a lot more that I won't lower myself to repeat) were actually terms of endearment, then? ........exits to the sound of man with silly name falling face-first into the mud yet again. :lol-049:
 
As often has happened on this and other forums, a debate is raging with the usual name calling etc, obviously copying our politicians!!

What I would like to know is; where in the world has a country or society "Got it right", so that be you Left, Right or Centre politically, you could think to yourself "They've got it right, I'd love our country to be like that!"

If of course there isn't an answer, then perhaps some of us are seeking an unobtainable Utopia?

What's the saying? There's none so blind as those who will not see.
 
Bigpeetee said:
As often has happened on this and other forums, a debate is raging with the usual name calling etc, obviously copying our politicians!!

What I would like to know is; where in the world has a country or society "Got it right", so that be you Left, Right or Centre politically, you could think to yourself "They've got it right, I'd love our country to be like that!"

If of course there isn't an answer, then perhaps some of us are seeking an unobtainable Utopia?

What's the saying? There's none so blind as those who will not see.
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Hi

You're right - I can't think of a country that has got it right yet, but is there anything wrong with seeking an unobtainable utopia? As a socialist I have no alternative because of basic human nature. ;)
 
John H said:
Ah, so all that stuff about loony lefties and "who's the fool now" (plus a lot more that I won't lower myself to repeat) were actually terms of endearment, then? ........exits to the sound of man with silly name falling face-first into the mud yet again. :lol-049:
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WTF are on about?
Don't worry John, you will be in a very nice nursing home soon, it won't be long now

(Bless him)
 
Here Here
I have tried many times to get back on topic, sadly the old chap does seem to like blabbering on about very little
 
Alf Hookham said:
WTF are on about?
Don't worry John, you will be in a very nice nursing home soon, it won't be long now

(Bless him)
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Same turn of phrase, same weak insults, same knee-jerk reactions instead of actually reading what is written, same "businessman who fulltimes" - welcome back bigpieeater, I've missed you. :lol-049::wave::lol-049:
 
John H said:
Hi

You're right - I can't think of a country that has got it right yet, but is there anything wrong with seeking an unobtainable utopia? As a socialist I have no alternative because of basic human nature. ;)
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But even the definition of a Socialist is so open to interpretation!! What's yours??

I'm not religious in any way, shape or form, however the primary head of all the main religions were in many ways socialist or would that be Communalist?

It's only human greed that had warped the basic teachings of Christ, Buddha or Mohamed and others to suit their own needs.

I certainly can't fight greed, but I can live my life according to MY Philosophies, gained from travel and meeting a wide range of people from different backgrounds AND my personal inner thoughts.

However, I would never force people to be the same as me, after all, I'm unique.

But it does seen futile to try and make everyone become the same model as me, because they are also unique, but to encourage people to care about others would in my opinion be a good start.
 
John H said:
Same turn of phrase, same weak insults, same knee-jerk reactions instead of actually reading what is written, same "businessman who fulltimes" - welcome back bigpieeater, I've missed you. :lol-049::wave::lol-049:
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What are you on about now?
What is the pie eating connection?
You simply cannot get back on topic can you?

I am sure there is some medication that will help you.
 
Bigpeetee said:
But even the definition of a Socialist is so open to interpretation!! What's yours??

I'm not religious in any way, shape or form, however the primary head of all the main religions were in many ways socialist or would that be Communalist?

It's only human greed that had warped the basic teachings of Christ, Buddha or Mohamed and others to suit their own needs.

I certainly can't fight greed, but I can live my life according to MY Philosophies, gained from travel and meeting a wide range of people from different backgrounds AND my personal inner thoughts.

However, I would never force people to be the same as me, after all, I'm unique.

But it does seen futile to try and make everyone become the same model as me, because they are also unique, but to encourage people to care about others would in my opinion be a good start.
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To avoid turning this into a book (or set of books!) I suppose you could sum up my view of socialism as "from each according to his abilities; to each according to his needs". As I have said before, this will always be an aspiration rather than an achievable goal because of human nature - that selfishness and greed we have been talking about. I agree totally with your comments about religion and about how the best we can all do is live the life we would want to see others living but accept that they will have different views. Only interfere if they are causing harm to other people. Forcing people into a particular view of life never works - but that doesn't stop governments from trying!
 
Alf Hookham said:
What are you on about now?
What is the pie eating connection?
You simply cannot get back on topic can you?

I am sure there is some medication that will help you.
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Don't worry - your secret is safe with me. I won't tell anybody! :lol-061::lol-061:
 
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