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[mariesnowgoose]

Hey, Mark, have you changed your name by deed poll when we weren't looking?

Maybe if you take the total number of (officially registered) infections and subtract the deaths?
That would give you an idea of recovery rates? Doesn't include everyone who's had covid (impossible to know now anyway).

Wouldn't tell you how many are suffering from long covid though.
Reckon it will take them a good while to work that one out!

 

[campervanannie]

Anyone know where the get the % recovery rate from?

This was on the covid update last week.

 

[mark61]

Hey, Mark, have you changed your name by deed poll when we weren't looking?

Maybe if you take the total number of (officially registered) infections and subtract the deaths?
That would give you an idea of recovery rates? Doesn't include everyone who's had covid (impossible to know now anyway).

Wouldn't tell you how many are suffering from long covid though.
Reckon it will take them a good while to work that one out!

I'm often called a lot worse things.

 

[Deleted member 25361]

Maybe do the math?

UK - 2% of 65 million is 1.3 million.

That's not a small number of dead people.
And that number of patients would definitely swamp intensive care units.

And doesn't include the (as yet uncounted) numbers of people suffering from serious long covid syndrome.

The vaccines will ultimately help prevent death and reduce the impact of long covid.

To me that's a no brainer.

Regards,

Dr Snowgoose - W.T.F, O.M.G, BSc (bs)*

* Bachelor of Science in B*lls**t

Sorry, there are more than enough cases of deaths reported in relation too the vaccine with no underlying health issues and that's 'fact'! Everyone is entitled to their personal opinion even after investigating through various sources not just the MSM who do not give answers. It will all come out in the wash as they say in the end. People could be in for a very big surprise. As, I've said previously if you want the vaccine 'take it' but there is no recourse to sueing anyone in the event anything goes wrong. It's all up too the individual. ( *No false medical qualifications).

 

[Deleted member 25361]

2% = 1.3 million deaths

Personally I find a stark bottom line like that far easier to understand and be completely sobered by.

Numerus percentages within age groups (age is just a number?) and so on and so forth, my eyes just tend to glaze over.

Also I'm totally crap at maths!!

And, I take it we have reached the 1.3 million?

 

[Fisherman]

A good immune system works well!

Only if it is familiar with the virus Willy. They reckon that viral load also plays a part. Hence why so many healthy younger health workers succumbed. they were working in close proximity to patients with covid and improper PPE at that time.

But for me the proof in the pudding comes from the AZ tests carried out on over 43,000. Half were given a placebo the other half the vaccine. None of the people given the vaccine were hospitalised. But about 80 receiving the placebo were hospitalised.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Sorry, there are more than enough cases of deaths reported in relation too the vaccine with no underlying health issues and that's 'fact'! Everyone is entitled to their personal opinion even after investigating through various sources not just the MSM who do not give answers. It will all come out in the wash as they say in the end. People could be in for a very big surprise. As, I've said previously if you want the vaccine 'take it' but there is no recourse to sueing anyone in the event anything goes wrong. It's all up too the individual. ( *No false medical qualifications).

... and also quite a few deaths from covid with no underlying heath issues.

Your point being... ?

OK, I guess what you're saying is that you will take your chances and not have the vaccine, and I fully respect your choice to do so.
At least you are not basing your decision on whacky ideas like chips in the vaccine, derived from pork, etc.

I have had many an agonising hour working through the 'Big Pharma' issue myself, but sometimes you need to make a decision one way or the other.

It's a calculated risk, and so far I'll take my chances along with the millions who have already been vaccinated and NOT died.

If my immune system works the way it's supposed to, then the vaccine will do a good job of introducing my body to a dose of covid and forcing it to fight back. Just like all the other vaccines successfully do for measles, typhoid, yellow fever etc.

Vaccines are NOT drugs.

 

[Fisherman]

Exactly.

I think you are being fat too polite with "not a precise figure". I have another term in mind

Im sure you have Mark, you always have another name, normally more extreme.
Anyway who was talking to you anyway....

 

[mariesnowgoose]

And, I take it we have reached the 1.3 million?

So there aren't bodies piled up on the streets.
Doesn't mean the pandemic is bogus or over blown.

It is very, very real!
Also, never forget that the main focus from day one was preventing the health service from being overwhelmed with cases.

If a vaccine helps to prevent more deaths and eases symptoms that can only be a very good thing, imo.

As an aside - can I just ask how many people you know personally who have died from covid or suffered any long term after effects?

Also...
1. Do you have any underlying health issues that would make covid a danger to you?
2. Are you in any of the age groups more likely to die?

Just curious...

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Sorry, there are more than enough cases of deaths reported in relation too the vaccine with no underlying health issues and that's 'fact'!

I would like you to expand on that statement of 'fact'.

Do you have any verified evidence to prove this?

The World Health Organisation state the exact opposite, as do the many and varied scientific and medical organisations beavering away to dig us out of the mess the pandemic has made.

Unless the WHO are on a mission to deceive the entire planet?
That is highly unlikely, unless, of course, you are a dedicated conspiracy theorist?

There have been a few 'sensationalist' reports about people dying after being vaccinated, but scratch below the surface of every one of them and you will find the facts are not in the least bit scary.

Here's just one good example, I'm sure I could find loads more from a variety of trusted sources if I could be bothered to look.
But I will leave that up to you. Me, I'm off for my vaccine as soon as...

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/norway-deaths-coronavirus-vaccine

 

[brian c]

Hi. If it is possible to have COVID and show/have no signs. Then how can people expect the government to have an accurate figure of how many people have COVID. If some people think it is a problem /conspiracy/ . Flu. / or whatever. then that is there opinion I think it is possibly worst then some think and that it is going to get worse. I’ve had my first jab. Head is now like an alligator/ body scales like a fish/ feet like an elephants . so not much different to normal. Brian

 

[yorkslass]

Working out the age group of deaths is easy, they have the stats.

What they don't know is how many have had the virus.
Purely anecdotal I know, but about a third of the people I know who have had it are not on record anywhere as having it. I'm not including those who "think" they've had it but people who lost their taste, so likely they did.

I'm not part of the statistics, I knew I was in contact with someone who had tested positive, had many of the symptoms so chose to isolate myself and not risk passing it on to anyone else.

Regarding Willy o quote about a good immune system....that's where the problem lies. The older you get the less T cells , which help fight infection, you have. However well you try to live, diet and exercise, you can't prevent natural decline,

Something else mentioned Is protecting the nhs. There are plenty patients still in hospital as a result of long covid....it's not something you can prevent or plan for, so the less everyone risks serious infection the better, hopefully achieved by having the vaccine.

 

[st3v3]

I would like you to expand on that statement of 'fact'.

Karen on Facebook told him.

 

[Deleted member 25361]

I would like you to expand on that statement of 'fact'.

Do you have any verified evidence to prove this?

The World Health Organisation state the exact opposite, as do the many and varied scientific and medical organisations beavering away to dig us out of the mess the pandemic has made.

Unless the WHO are on a mission to deceive the entire planet?
That is highly unlikely, unless, of course, you are a dedicated conspiracy theorist?

There have been a few 'sensationalist' reports about people dying after being vaccinated, but scratch below the surface of every one of them and you will find the facts are not in the least bit scary.

Here's just one good example, I'm sure I could find loads more from a variety of trusted sources if I could be bothered to look.
But I will leave that up to you. Me, I'm off for my vaccine as soon as...

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/norway-deaths-coronavirus-vaccine

So the WHO are the "be all end all"! What I like about people on subjects like this they have "their" opinion on issues like and "WANT" others to come up with the information because "THEY" cant be bothered (so, they are quite happy to sit back and believe one source of information because they can't be bothered too question)! I and other people like me I'm sure are frustrated that other people want to do the groundwork for them, which I get fed up with. If you don't believe and you can't be bothered too question there will be no changing your mind. Now as I have repeatedly said in this post I am not an antivaccer people choose what they want to do themselves it's their responsibility. But, everyone has an opinion on what they have looked into . I hear the MSM, but have doubts on their sincerity.

 

[Deleted member 25361]

... and also quite a few deaths from covid with no underlying heath issues.

Your point being... ?

OK, I guess what you're saying is that you will take your chances and not have the vaccine, and I fully respect your choice to do so.
At least you are not basing your decision on whacky ideas like chips in the vaccine, derived from pork, etc.

I have had many an agonising hour working through the 'Big Pharma' issue myself, but sometimes you need to make a decision one way or the other.

It's a calculated risk, and so far I'll take my chances along with the millions who have already been vaccinated and NOT died.

If my immune system works the way it's supposed to, then the vaccine will do a good job of introducing my body to a dose of covid and forcing it to fight back. Just like all the other vaccines successfully do for measles, typhoid, yellow fever etc.

Vaccines are NOT drugs.

"The vaccine"! As for choice it is yours!

 

[st3v3]

I and other people like me I'm sure are frustrated that other people want to do the groundwork for them,

If you're going to post views that are vastly different from what government etc. are telling us then you're going to have to back it up or else you just go down as another conspiracy theorist nutjob.

I'm assuming you've checked your information rather than just believing someone on YT/FB so why not link to what you found?

 

[st3v3]

"The vaccine"! As for choice it is yours!

You've quoted several paragraphs, and thrown in a one line random statement. I don't understand.

 

[colinm]

So the WHO are the "be all end all"! What I like about people on subjects like this they have "their" opinion on issues like and "WANT" others to come up with the information because "THEY" cant be bothered (so, they are quite happy to sit back and believe one source of information because they can't be bothered too question)! I and other people like me I'm sure are frustrated that other people want to do the groundwork for them, which I get fed up with. If you don't believe and you can't be bothered too question there will be no changing your mind. Now as I have repeatedly said in this post I am not an antivaccer people choose what they want to do themselves it's their responsibility. But, everyone has an opinion on what they have looked into . I hear the MSM, but have doubts on their sincerity.

So it's complete bullshit then.

 

[st3v3]

So it's complete bullshit then.

Say what you mean Colin.

 

[colinm]

Say what you mean Colin.

I had a warning from Phil a while back, I daren't say what I think.