I got the call

[Fisherman]

Got our letters today jabs Saturday 13 feb

 

[yorkieowl]

We’re way down the list 7+8, but have the Al-Hikmah super centre where Bo-Jo visited last week, 2 minutes from us.

 

[Deleted member 25361]

Lead the way Annie, we’ll all follow you!

With 98% recovery rate , why? The vaccine won't stop you getting it!

 

[mariesnowgoose]

With 98% recovery rate , why? The vaccine won't stop you getting it!

Maybe do the math?

UK - 2% of 65 million is 1.3 million.

That's not a small number of dead people.
And that number of patients would definitely swamp intensive care units.

And doesn't include the (as yet uncounted) numbers of people suffering from serious long covid syndrome.

The vaccines will ultimately help prevent death and reduce the impact of long covid.

To me that's a no brainer.

Regards,

Dr Snowgoose - W.T.F, O.M.G, BSc (bs)*

* Bachelor of Science in B*lls**t

 

[Polar Bear]

I got the call yesterday at 11.45 and left the doctor's surgery at 13.00 sorted.

 

[st3v3]

? The vaccine won't stop you getting it!

What the vaccine does appear to do is vastly reduce your chances of getting sick and dieing if you do catch it.

 

[n brown]

What the vaccine does appear to do is vastly reduce your chances of getting sick and dieing if you do catch it.

that'll do me !

 

[Fisherman]

With 98% recovery rate , why? The vaccine won't stop you getting it!

Wily that rate applies through all age groups not for 65 and over.

if you are 80 or over its more like 85%
75 and over 88%
70 and over 92%
65 and over 96%

Also don’t forget you may survive covid, but after being coma induced on a ventilator for days or weeks, then suffer possibly the rest of your life from long Covid. The vaccine will almost certainly prevent having to head for hospital. And the AZ vaccine has shown a 66% effectivness against transmission.

 

[mark61]

Anyone know where the get the % recovery rate from?

 

[mariesnowgoose]

2% = 1.3 million deaths

Personally I find a stark bottom line like that far easier to understand and be completely sobered by.

Numerus percentages within age groups (age is just a number?) and so on and so forth, my eyes just tend to glaze over.

Also I'm totally crap at maths!!

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Anyone know where the get the % recovery rate from?

Dunno. ONS website maybe? It's the only one that has any kind of credibility, I think.

 

[mark61]

Dunno. ONS website maybe? It's the only one that has any kind of credibility, I think.

They don't even know how many have had it though.

 

[Fisherman]

They don't even know how many have had it though.

Mark apparently 98% of deaths have been 60 and over.
I reckon they take the 112,000 deaths they are aware off and simply do a graph for each age group.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Mark apparently 98% of deaths have been 60 and over.
I reckon they take the 112,000 deaths they are aware off and simply do a graph for each age group.

Mark is asking about recovery numbers, not deaths

 

[Deleted member 25361]

Wily that rate applies through all age groups not for 65 and over.

if you are 80 or over its more like 85%
75 and over 88%
70 and over 92%
65 and over 96%

Also don’t forget you may survive covid, but after being coma induced on a ventilator for days or weeks, then suffer possibly the rest of your life from long Covid. The vaccine will almost certainly prevent having to head for hospital. And the AZ vaccine has shown a 66% effectivness against transmission.

That's the problem with the treatment of covid they should NOT be putting people on ventilators. In India they have treated covid with a tried and tested medication that has been used before and works 100% against Covid19 ( Ivermectin) but now governments have stopped the use of this , why? Look at the price in comparison too the Pfizer and Oxford vaccines , great if you have shares in 'Big Pharma'.

 

[mark61]

Working out the age group of deaths is easy, they have the stats.

What they don't know is how many have had the virus.
Purely anecdotal I know, but about a third of the people I know who have had it are not on record anywhere as having it. I'm not including those who "think" they've had it but people who lost their taste, so likely they did.

 

[Deleted member 25361]

What the vaccine does appear to do is vastly reduce your chances of getting sick and dieing if you do catch it.

A good immune system works well!

 

[Fisherman]

Working out the age group of deaths is easy, they have the stats.

What they don't know is how many have had the virus.
Purely anecdotal I know, but about a third of the people I know who have had it are not on record anywhere as having it. I'm not including those who "think" they've had it but people who lost their taste, so likely they did.

Willy nobody knows that figure, so what our government and most others do is double the known cases. how accurate a measure no one knows, but its reckoned that only half of all those who have caught it have tested positive. There is no way of knowing precisely how many have had it when its reckoned 20-30% are A symptomatic. thus is not a precise figure.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Also don’t forget you may survive covid, but after being coma induced on a ventilator for days or weeks, then suffer possibly the rest of your life from long Covid.

I'd also like to point out that you don't have to be admitted to hospital to suffer from long covid.

I personally know 5 people (not including any members in here who are suffering from it) who have 'long covid'.
None of those people required admission to hospital, but the after effects they now have (many months later!) from catching covid are quite serious.

 

[mark61]

Willy nobody knows that figure, so what our government and most others do is double the known cases. how accurate a measure no one knows, but its reckoned that only half of all those who have caught it have tested positive. There is no way of knowing precisely how many have had it when its reckoned 20-30% are A symptomatic. thus is not a precise figure.

Exactly.

I think you are being fat too polite with "not a precise figure". I have another term in mind