flier for country pubs

I realise that I am the bad boy in all this, I assure you all, no offence was intended.
As I have said before, I would hate to get a landlord on the wrong side of the law. Again ,dont get me wrong as I am a "Wild Camper". Have been, Am and will always be, but what I do and theposition I put my self (legally) is my problem.
Just for further information The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 is now used with regard to wild camping. It was introduced on the back of raves and N.A.T.s and all the hassle that went on at Stonehenge a few years ago. Have a look at the government’s own website containing the act.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1994/Ukpga_19940033_en_1.htm
 
Hi don
you are in no way, regarded as the bad boy here
more, the man whose pointing out the other side of the arguement

ok! ahem!
the public order act,
this act,among other things, restricts groups of people from singing in the street
but this does not dissuade the carol singers at xmas
and no law enforcer in his right mind would regard carol singers as a public nuisance.
I think that the authorities would also be able to see the difference between a "rave" which is a public nuisance
and a couple of motorhome families on holiday
who, like the carol singers, are not a public nuisance
sundown
 
Don,
It's very good to have someone investigating all corners of the problem. Don't you feel the 'bad boy' at all. I think all of us are appreciating it. Please don't stop with your info.
Leo (Belgian)
 
sundown said:
Hi don
you are in no way, regarded as the bad boy here
more, the man whose pointing out the other side of the arguement

ok! ahem!
the public order act,
this act,among other things, restricts groups of people from singing in the street
but this does not dissuade the carol singers at xmas
and no law enforcer in his right mind would regard carol singers as a public nuisance.
I think that the authorities would also be able to see the difference between a "rave" which is a public nuisance
and a couple of motorhome families on holiday
who, like the carol singers, are not a public nuisance
sundown
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Slight correction Sundown, School junior Carol Singers thrown out of the Arndale Shopping centre Manchester. Causing a Public Nuisance. (Fact).
Apparantly it only requires one complaint, and the police have to act (fact).
 
wow! it can only happen in manchester.

and don, ive changed my mind I think I will shoot you!!!
:D :D :D sundown
 
Don said:
Slight correction Sundown, School junior Carol Singers thrown out of the Arndale Shopping centre Manchester. Causing a Public Nuisance. (Fact).
Apparantly it only requires one complaint, and the police have to act (fact).
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Don thanks for all your hard work and Knowledge on this subject. However I have been wandering around the web meeting all sorts of unsavoury charecters but i can't find a campaign for u.k.aires. The one run by MCM seems to have been abandoned (as a lot of there stuff does) I joined that years ago, the make us welcome campaign. as you seem to be involved with that mag can you explain why they just abandon such good work. I have recently abandoned them as a subscriber. due to such wavering and poor content. A shame it used to be such a good mag, the first I subscribed to. Cheers, Rick.
 
Hi Tresrikay.

You and me together, I just felt that it was a worth while campaign to keep going, with or without MCM.
However, if you check back through this forum, thier is an individual had-hoc campaign going here headed by Graham Hadfield. (hope he doesnt mind me mentioning him by name).

Aires in the UK

Any body requireing copy letters or information just pm me. I believe that this is the correct way to go about convincing the authorities. And if each one of us just worked on our own LA just think what a difference that would make.

Don
 
Don said:
Slight correction Sundown, School junior Carol Singers thrown out of the Arndale Shopping centre Manchester. Causing a Public Nuisance. (Fact).
Apparantly it only requires one complaint, and the police have to act (fact).
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hi don I've been searching the internet, without success, to find the report concerning the carol singers at arndale shoping centre.
could you please enlighten me on where you found this report.
sundown
 
Hi Nick
As I live in Bolton it was oon the local evening news, but I see Lenny as found the story. Must admit the story here is in more details.
Good to see Christianity is alive and flourishing.

Don
 
Don said:
Hi Nick
As I live in Bolton it was oon the local evening news, but I see Lenny as found the story. Must admit the story here is in more details.
Good to see Christianity is alive and flourishing.

Don
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hi don I wasn't doubting your word
but I see that the kids were asked to leave by store security
for the sake of keeping the customers happy and not by the authourities for public a nuisences offence
sundown
 
Shoot me Please

The point is, they were back the next day by invitation of the centre manager, I suspect under preasure from store occupants.
Are you sure it could only happen in Manchester?

Shoot me and lets put this to sleep. LOL

Good night all

Don
 
hi, don
seems things are now moving in the right direction
and thanks to this thread, I think we all have a better
understanding of what a suitable location would realy be.
I for one, have 5 village pubs with large car parks close by
but I would disregard all of them for reasons of adjoining residential properties,
young people congregating, etc.
thanks to your input, I think that we have learned to tread carefully
and act very responsibly when recomending a stopover point.
if and when we ever meet, remind me, I owe you a pint!
cheers sundown
 
I have been travelling in my vw camper for the past twenty years,and in all that time I have never been refused a stayover in a pub car park. Obviously you must use the pub,but it is no restriction on wandering locally.I am now known as the long distance local in many pubs.:)
 
sundown said:
hi,
ive just been thinking that we all travel the country
looking for some-where to park up, but maybe the answer is
staring us in the face.
all these country pubs, inns, etc with large carparks.
the question is "how do we make them want us to stop there ?"
and I think this might be the answer
a palmflet which we could print out and carry with us
to hand out to landlords etc.​



palmflet.jpg

as i said this is just an idea in its infancy which needs to be refined and fine-tuned to get the final result
I know that there are a lot more brighter people than me on the site who may like to take up the challange
and admin would have to be consulted on this
but c'mon with the input what do you think?

sundown
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Just thought I'd dig up this old post to bring it back to life in case anyone missed it the first time;)
With the recent bad news ref. Derbyshire C.C. I think it's important that we can maintain a variety of potential sleepyspots and this one is an excellent idea. Even if you think pamphlets are a bit over the top,then a quiet chat with the landlord over a pint or two:cool: would suffice.
Just get the thumbs up,get his details and publsize it on this site.
Although pub car parks don't really typify the the meaning of wildcamping,they can offer a safe haven, or maybe even a last resort if one is getting tired.
 
Yes Sundown a brilliant idea if you can get it off the ground.
May i suggest that you mention Campervans on the flier as not all on here have Motohomes and i think some pub landlords could be a bit bias, better to be safe than sorry.
Another thing Sundown is members should phone the landlord to make shure there is room at the inn, to save a wasted trip.
Last but not least we are not talking about big meets here maybe one two or three vans surely that this could be classed as friends stopping over especially if the landlords were honorary members of the Wildcamping site.
Also we should have some form of identification maybe so the landlord knows that we are genuine and we not Travelers or Gypsies
Please excuse if any of this has already been posted on here. :)
Regards Trevor.
 
Last but not least we are not talking about big meets here maybe one two or three vans surely that this could be classed as friends stopping over especially if the landlords were honorary members of the Wildcamping site.
Also we should have some form of identification maybe so the landlord knows that we are genuine and we not Travelers or Gypsies

I modestly think this is the way it could be done. :confused:
Just put Sundowns, Lennys ans Trevors ideas together and we're off ;)
 
Pub Stopovers

Sorry, I haven't got to the end of this thread yet. BUT Has anyone here joined the 'Motorhome Stopover' site?

We are members, and we have stayed a couple of times at a stopover in Amble, Northumberland.

Also planning to contact a Stopover site in Wiltshire so we can attend our son's wedding in August.

It is a database of pubs that allow one-night stopovers in their car parks. Obviously they would like you to eat or drink there, but our stopover in Amble didn't do meals when we stayed. In fact, they fed us for free cos we stayed when they had a 'Games Night'. Some will consider a second night.

Go to:

www.motorhomestopover.co.uk
 
First time i have seen this thread,brilliant idea in these economic times.As far as pub stopovers are concerned most publicans are tenants what would the brewery have to say?Local authorities are the ones to work on i think but they would view the idea with suspicion(would they themselves become liable to prosecution in case of accidents)Then you have to consider we all cause waste which needs to be disposed of,on the upside the possibilities for generating income to local businesses are huge in the present climate.Seems like local byelaws might be a big stumbling block,needs further investigation.On a footnote to the subject i was in Blackpool last July,noticed there were a 6 or 7 vans and caravans overnighting in Stanley park,had to be nosy and ask if it was an organised event turned out it was a model village charity event so it looks like the council can bend the rules;)Andy.
 
Hi,
For over 20 years we have also been staying on pub carparks after having a meal in the pub ( something we often do anyway if travelling a long way ) However its just us, one night then move on, no problem. Once you wish to start organising or arranging to meet others it causes problems, legal and others, all round. I am all for expanding the pub data base so that we all benefit, but thats as far as I go.

Just my opinion.

Dezi
 
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