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Ok here's the deal the Turbo compressor is sticking they managed to clean andfree it but he says it's one of those it might be ok now but it might stick again
1 x turbo compressor = £1593.85p
1 x sealing gasket = £16.86p
Or a reconditioned one at £732.30
Today's bill
1 hour diagnostic + 1 hour stripping and cleaning compressor £192.00
Plus the handbrake they are fixing that next week.
 
campervanannie said:
Ok here's the deal the Turbo compressor is sticking they managed to clean andfree it but he says it's one of those it might be ok now but it might stick again
1 x turbo compressor = £1593.85p
1 x sealing gasket = £16.86p
Or a reconditioned one at £732.30
Today's bill
1 hour diagnostic + 1 hour stripping and cleaning compressor £192.00
Plus the handbrake they are fixing that next week.
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That should be covered under warranty.
 
campervanannie said:
Ok here's the deal the Turbo compressor is sticking they managed to clean andfree it but he says it's one of those it might be ok now but it might stick again
1 x turbo compressor = £1593.85p
1 x sealing gasket = £16.86p
Or a reconditioned one at £732.30
Today's bill
1 hour diagnostic + 1 hour stripping and cleaning compressor £192.00
Plus the handbrake they are fixing that next week.
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Annie did they call it anything else, did they mean the turbo, I've never heard anything being called a turbo compressor, if its the turbo they can be got a lot cheaper than that from turbo specialist installers, andy
 
Admin said:
That should be covered under warranty.
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You know what they are like

"that's wear and tear items"

So it's not covered. :rulez::rulez::rulez:

However I do hope the dealer is honest and arranges the repairs.

:goodluck::goodluck::goodluck:
 
andyjanet said:
Annie did they call it anything else, did they mean the turbo, I've never heard anything being called a turbo compressor, if its the turbo they can be got a lot cheaper than that from turbo specialist installers, andy
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They said a pump was not working because an outlet/exhaust gate was sticking he did babble on a bit but it was gobbledygook to me the upshot is he freed it and it's now working but for how long who knows so do I change it under the warranty or leave it and risk a week after the warranty expires it goes again lol.
 
campervanannie said:
They said a pump was not working because an outlet/exhaust gate was sticking he did babble on a bit but it was gobbledygook to me the upshot is he freed it and it's now working but for how long who knows so do I change it under the warranty or leave it and risk a week after the warranty expires it goes again lol.
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Annie I think you may find it would happen again ,you're not a hard driver as such and imho I'd push the warranty for them to replace ,I think you will find it would be a overhauled unit that would get fitted depending on the warranty pack.dont leave it to chance.
I'm sure if you flutter yer guid eye you will get somewhere .
All the best
 
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yikes..

I am in the wrong business lol - well I am not in any business right now!..

I bought a new turbo for my Boxer last month, and fitted it.. cost was £100, albeit I was lucky to find it.. I even have the old one on the bench after a rebuild..cant sell it for £50 on ebay!

thinking about it Annie, the only bit they can be referring to is the compressor vanes themselves.. and the only way they can stick really is by grundge building up in the inlet tracts.. if so, this can often be caused by infrequent oil changes, slow driving, short trips, and just old age (saying that, my 2010 Hdi is full of muck, from the previous owners, and this isnt a car that would be doing small journeys really)

anyone agree with my diagnosis of the cause?
 
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campervanannie said:
They said a pump was not working because an outlet/exhaust gate was sticking he did babble on a bit but it was gobbledygook to me the upshot is he freed it and it's now working but for how long who knows so do I change it under the warranty or leave it and risk a week after the warranty expires it goes again lol.
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I guess they mean that the wastegate was sticking. It does not normally need a new turbo for that.
 
Admin said:
I guess they mean that the wastegate was sticking. It does not normally need a new turbo for that.
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That's what he said wastegate the problem is he cannot find out what caused the sticking in the first place which is why he cannot guarantee it won't do it again it was one of those how long is a piece of string moments so hence my dilemma to change it on the guarantee or wait and see if the dealers sats get it done they'll pay I'll have it done if they say no I'll probably wait and see.
 
campervanannie said:
That's what he said wastegate the problem is he cannot find out what caused the sticking in the first place which is why he cannot guarantee it won't do it again it was one of those how long is a piece of string moments so hence my dilemma to change it on the guarantee or wait and see if the dealers sats get it done they'll pay I'll have it done if they say no I'll probably wait and see.
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If the waste gate has not been operating the impeller blades are probably gaffes up with soot?also turbo housing will be the same I would think ,
When you get it sorted I'd give it a bit o blast to clear its throat out Annie you might get a bit smoke out eahaust pipe for a bit you want hills so that the turbo has to operate etc
 
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hairydog said:
There is no consequential damage from it sticking again. I would make a point of driving it hard (full throttle up a long steep hill is ideal) to get it really hot and clean it out.
If that breaks it, you have the guaranteed.
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Warm it up to normal temp before doing this!

Phill
 
campervanannie said:
Yes he says I have been driving around with no turbo that's why it did 0 to 60 in 10 mins and would not go up hills lol
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I'm no mechanic but my understanding of turbos is that they are working all the time and only noticed when pushed hard, like up hill in a high gear over 2500rpm when they spin too much, that's when the waste gate opens relieving the pressure so it doesn't blow up. I recon the garage has freed the acuator rod with lube(fixing it) then are saying you need a new turbo. If you can get them to do it under warranty then go for it 🙂 They'd probably change there minds though😉😏. Have you been up any hills yet? You might see some black smoke as the engines probably not had a good clean out for a while.... Mark
 
I purchased a used car last year, after a week or so I started to 'push' it a bit more and I noticed that there was a bit of a flat spot at 2800rpm but would quickly clear by 2900rpm. Pushing it further to 4000rpm resulted the engine management light coming on and it going into 'limp' mode - oh bother i thought ;), I made note of the fault code and cleared the fault using my cheapo OBD2 reader.
Googling the code I quickly found out that it was usually the vanes sticking (the turbo is of the variable vane type) I used some Millers Diesel turbo cleaner in the tank and took it out for an Italian tune-up, but rather than driving like an arse I just took it along the A27 at 70mph for about 25 miles and slowly increased the revs by changing down a gear 6 > 5 > 4 > 3 finally doing around 4500rpm for about 5 mins (6 miles) then taking care to let it all cool down before switching off.
Note that the impeller ends sits in engine oil and spins at many thousands of rpm, much higher than the engine revs at and switching off suddenly whilst the turbo is at speed results in no oil at the turbo bearings.
My father is from an era where it was common to blip the throttle before turning off - not good practice with turbos.
 
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