Electric Sprinter H2 L2

[mark61]

but... the mgw of electric vans that you can drive without C1 is higher than the the mgw of fossil fuel van
which gives extra payload.

Not much use when most of that extra payload is battery.

 

[r4dent]

but... the mgw of electric vans that you can drive without C1 is higher than the the mgw of fossil fuel van
which gives extra payload.

Not much use when most of that extra payload is battery.

You must be using a meaning of the word "most" of which I was previously unaware.

 

[trevskoda]

Fact is the 2030 deadline will come and go as most folk dont want lecy cars/vans etc.
When and if they make a 300/500 mile range battery which can be charged in 2/5 mins
and last the life of car/van then and only then will folks maybe except the change.
One of the secondery problems is safe disposal of spent battery units, so far not possable.
If the new being trialed salt battery works then it will be a no brainer for the future.
One benifit will be qt towns and villages never mind the carpark burnouts with screeming
engines and loud exhaust pipes.
Bat point will be half deaf folk or kids getting knocked down by silent cars etc.

 

[colinm]

Fact is the 2030 deadline will come and go as most folk dont want lecy cars/vans etc.
When and if they make a 300/500 mile range battery which can be charged in 2/5 mins
and last the life of car/van then and only then will folks maybe except the change.
One of the secondery problems is safe disposal of spent battery units, so far not possable.
If the new being trialed salt battery works then it will be a no brainer for the future.
One benifit will be qt towns and villages never mind the carpark burnouts with screeming
engines and loud exhaust pipes.
Bat point will be half deaf folk or kids getting knocked down by silent cars etc.

I think you have hit a new high with the amount of duff info in a post.

 

[caledonia]

I think you have hit a new high with the amount of duff info in a post.

Really? I thought Trev hit the nail on the head

 

[colinm]

Really? I thought Trev hit the nail on the head

Do you mean he has hit his head on a nail?

 

[trevskoda]

I think you have hit a new high with the amount of duff info in a post.

All on the net to read, thank you for DUFF comment.

 

[Geek]

Fact is the 2030 deadline will come and go as most folk dont want lecy cars/vans etc.

The deadline is the end of making new ones. Existing vehicles will still work, especially the pre-adblue ones.

When and if they make a 300/500 mile range battery which can be charged in 2/5 mins

Not going to happen. 500 miles is 500 Kilowatt hours for a large vehicle.
That's 125 hours of charging from a 10A 'granny' plug. To transfer that much power in 5 minutes is 6000 kilowatts.
Never going to be possible, unless you transfer it chemically.
It is 50 litres of diesel or 12.7kg of hydrogen

and last the life of car/van then and only then will folks maybe except the change.

If you make any component expensive enough, it lasts the life of the car/van.
Motorhomes are a special case, because they are worth more than a van of equivalent age.

One of the secondery problems is safe disposal of spent battery units, so far not possable.

Far from true. Used EV batteries are modular.
Cells can be swapped, batteries rebuilt.
They have a ready market as power storage, and when they are really done, they are very recyclable.

If the new being trialed salt battery works then it will be a no brainer for the future.

Every year or two there is another wonderful new battery type.
Every few decades one of them turns out useful.

One benifit will be qt towns and villages never mind the carpark burnouts with screeming
engines and loud exhaust pipes.
Bat point will be half deaf folk or kids getting knocked down by silent cars etc.

That's nonsense. The vast majority of noise from cars is tyre noise.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

We were looking at EV's last year, none made sense for us, so we got the self charging MG3, economy is really poor, quoted 60+mpg, but 45 is nearer the mark.

 

[alcam]

The deadline is the end of making new ones. Existing vehicles will still work, especially the pre-adblue ones.

Not going to happen. 500 miles is 500 Kilowatt hours for a large vehicle.
That's 125 hours of charging from a 10A 'granny' plug. To transfer that much power in 5 minutes is 6000 kilowatts.
Never going to be possible, unless you transfer it chemically.
It is 50 litres of diesel or 12.7kg of hydrogen

If you make any component expensive enough, it lasts the life of the car/van.
Motorhomes are a special case, because they are worth more than a van of equivalent age.

Far from true. Used EV batteries are modular.
Cells can be swapped, batteries rebuilt.
They have a ready market as power storage, and when they are really done, they are very recyclable.

Every year or two there is another wonderful new battery type.
Every few decades one of them turns out useful.

That's nonsense. The vast majority of noise from cars is tyre noise.

Would have to disagree with last statement.
Source ? My lugs

 

[ProDave]

This was going to be my suggestion.

Socking great diesel fuelled gennie towed behind.

No worries...

You laugh, but I remember years ago before EV's were common, and before classic vehicles got £0 historic vehicle road tax. Someone restored a trolley bus. but of course there were no overhead wires to power it, so he towed a generator on a trailer behind it. But it was classed as an electric vehicle so £0 road tax.

 

[trevskoda]

That's nonsense. The vast majority of noise from cars is tyre noise.

Not here, big bore pipes and tuned engines in about 10/15 % of cars, Bmw audi vw spring to mind.

 

[ProDave]

We were looking at EV's last year, none made sense for us, so we got the self charging MG3, economy is really poo

We used to have a Toyota Yaris as the daily runabout. We too went looking recently, hoping to get a plug in hybrid. The theory was if we had something that would do 50 plus miles as a pure EV and would start the engine when needed it would do all our needs without needing to plug in on a long journey. The reality was most will only do 20 miles as an EV before the engine would start. So we concluded it was a waste of money, so bought a Suzuki Vitara self charging hybrid instead. It is easily giving low 50's mpg.

 

[trevskoda]

We used to have a Toyota Yaris as the daily runabout. We too went looking recently, hoping to get a plug in hybrid. The theory was if we had something that would do 50 plus miles as a pure EV and would start the engine when needed it would do all our needs without needing to plug in on a long journey. The reality was most will only do 20 miles as an EV before the engine would start. So we concluded it was a waste of money, so bought a Suzuki Vitara self charging hybrid instead. It is easily giving low 50's mpg.

Dont go there, still with oil changes filter ex pipes clutches etc with only a we taste of electric, go one or the other.

 

[barryd]

We were looking at EV's last year, none made sense for us, so we got the self charging MG3, economy is really poor, quoted 60+mpg, but 45 is nearer the mark.

Those figures are often total rubbish. However according to the trip metre in my 10 year old Suzuki Swift Go Kart I bought earlier this year its averaging 50 mpg and I drive it like I stole it. I was lucky to get 40 mpg out of the Hyundai i10

 

[Geek]

Not here, big bore pipes and tuned engines in about 10/15 % of cars, Bmw audi vw spring to mind.

We don't seem to get those round here.