Diesel air Heater
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There are 4 key things that interest me on these (or any similar) heaters:
1. Noise Levels
2. Electrical Consumption
3. Fuel Consumption
4. Heat Regulation
Not sure in your installation you will be able to directly check this, but for #4, how is the heater running controlled by a thermostat? Is there a sensor in the controller box with the rotary switch? Is there an external temp sensor you can plug in to perform this function.
This seems to be the biggest limitation for an Out-the-Box Eberspacher D2 install on a Camper/Motorhome, where you either have to rejig the wiring to use the controller temp sensor (if you have an 801), or fit the optional temp sensor (not included with the standard kit set). What is the Planar like in this respect?
1. Noise Levels
2. Electrical Consumption
3. Fuel Consumption
4. Heat Regulation
Not sure in your installation you will be able to directly check this, but for #4, how is the heater running controlled by a thermostat? Is there a sensor in the controller box with the rotary switch? Is there an external temp sensor you can plug in to perform this function.
This seems to be the biggest limitation for an Out-the-Box Eberspacher D2 install on a Camper/Motorhome, where you either have to rejig the wiring to use the controller temp sensor (if you have an 801), or fit the optional temp sensor (not included with the standard kit set). What is the Planar like in this respect?
Fazerloz
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4 Pass. I turn it up it blows out more hot air. I turn it down it blows out less hot air.
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Clever people the Chinese,
If they can get one then they will copy it.
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fuel consumtion
hi im very intrested in this for a similar project could you keep us up to date with the fuel consumption please.
think you have done a great job of it
did you get it of flebay at that price without needing to pay import tax
again nice job
hi im very intrested in this for a similar project could you keep us up to date with the fuel consumption please.
think you have done a great job of it
did you get it of flebay at that price without needing to pay import tax
again nice job
Fazerloz
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Yes it came of Ebay, and surprisingly to me I did not pay any duty, I was expecting to have to.
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Noise.
The exhaust pipe is now through the wall and the silencer on the outside. I suppose I could get it quieter by taking the inlet to the outside but I am not bothering to do that.
Background noise in the garage door closed 22 dB
Heater running lowest setting 2m away 30 to 32 dB
Heater running highest setting 2m away 45 to 47 dB
I am happy with those for a garage.
Do not forget there are no physical barriers on these readings as you would have in a van.
The exhaust pipe is now through the wall and the silencer on the outside. I suppose I could get it quieter by taking the inlet to the outside but I am not bothering to do that.
Background noise in the garage door closed 22 dB
Heater running lowest setting 2m away 30 to 32 dB
Heater running highest setting 2m away 45 to 47 dB
I am happy with those for a garage.
Do not forget there are no physical barriers on these readings as you would have in a van.
Les Haro
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Chinese Diesel vehicle air heaters - Discussion and Help
That's a new Facebook group created one week ago cause someone wants to buy one and thought it the best way to collate all knowledge available to enable them to form a conclusion.
That's a new Facebook group created one week ago cause someone wants to buy one and thought it the best way to collate all knowledge available to enable them to form a conclusion.
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As someone who buys a heap of stuff from eBay that comes from the far east
I cannot remember ever buying anything from HK/China etc etc....
Stuff from USA almost always comes with a duty ticket to pay....
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I have bought a lot of things direct from China and the rest of the far east and never had any problems, but all small price stuff and never paid any duty. At £175 I fully expected to have to pay duty. I agree I buy from the States and its nearly always a fortune for postage and duty is always to pay.
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£100 seems to be the magic figure where duties become liable. Below that it tends to be ignored.
A lot of Chinese sellers misdeclare the value of the shipment and/or flag it as a gift (don't think stating it is a gift fools anyone though).
It also can depend on the method of delivery/courier used. recently I had a charge of £3.50 for duty due on a Chinese delivery that was sent using DHL. Strange amount and I think it was set ignoring the £100 cutoff (just paid it as not worth looking into for that amount and risk redelivery charges)
A lot of Chinese sellers misdeclare the value of the shipment and/or flag it as a gift (don't think stating it is a gift fools anyone though).
It also can depend on the method of delivery/courier used. recently I had a charge of £3.50 for duty due on a Chinese delivery that was sent using DHL. Strange amount and I think it was set ignoring the £100 cutoff (just paid it as not worth looking into for that amount and risk redelivery charges)
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One things for sure there will be no backup, or comeback for anyone buying one that's if it arrives at all. Read the feedback on some of the sellers. Its a pure punt.
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And apparently some lack overheat cutout protection too...
Lucky dip/pay money and take your chances..
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Thank you Fazerloz for taking the plunge, look forward to seeing how you get on with it over the next month or two.
I am aiming to finish my conversion, sufficient to satisfy DVLA’s requirements for change to “Motor Caravan”, by April so am currently allowing sufficient space for a Planar heater but will now allow a bit more room in case the Chinese heater wins me over. Planar 310 mm long Chinese 440 mm long.
I tried to find what the import duty might be but couldn’t find an appropriate commodity code on the HMRC Trade Tariff site, 8516 looked likely but seems to be solely “Electrical” heaters of various sorts. I wonder if 8416101000 might be right and if so duty would be VAT at 20% and third country duty of 1.70 % on cost of item and shipping. I am sure somebody here knows better
I did wonder whether it might be better to buy from one of the ebay sellers who despatch goods from Germany, seller names are “yokimm” and “rotary tattoo”. Both offer the 2 kW Air diesel Heaters for £194 buy it now or “best offer”, delivery in 4 to 10 days and 2 years warranty.
“always outlet” offer the same from Germany for £184 but no mention of a guarantee and have the same address in China as “rotary tattoo”….. mmm?
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The cheapest direct from China via ebay I saw today was £160 from “libing36920133”. If the duty mentioned above is correct and actually charged then total would be about £195.
Which seller did you buy from fazerloz?
I had a useful conversation with Owen Cox to clarify some fitting requirements for their Planar heaters, a very helpful guy. When I asked about reliability he suggested Planar more reliable than Eber etc and referred me to Facebook to look at some positive reviews. I tried but as not a member could not see the posts there.
But while trying to find anything relevant on facebook I did see this:
“In 2010, JP China Trade Int’l Co. Ltd was founded in Beijing, as a Russian-Chinese joint venture company specialized in researching, developing and selling of parking heaters and parts. We mainly supply parking heaters for all kinds of vehicles.”
At 2KW Air Parking Heater
Hope your tests continue successfully and thanks again.
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A fair question. The supply is limited and heating would push it over the edge when also running other equipment. Plus 5kw works out at approx 90p ph whereas fuel for the heater is 0.5 lph on max and running on red the savings are even better, but mainly I just fancied one and wanted to do it.
The bonus is it all works and I have now got heat in the garage. I don't know if I would have done it to put it in the van though. With it been in the garage the only time it will be running is when I am there unlike it might be used in a van. Should anything go wrong with it I am there to deal with it and it is easily accessible.
The thing is these don't seem to have any known history, which should make people wary.
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Thank you.
So it might be useful for say a static caravan with only a 5 amp supply.
The static caravans I had both had 16 amp supplies, but people used to have a microwave, kettle, freezer, fridge and hoover at the same time and wonder why the electric tripped !
thanks again.
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