Cyclist stickers compulsory for vehicle going to France.
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Snapster
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They are just in French.
I don’t really think they will have any effect on cyclists. They ( well, many of them) ignore every other warning that might impede their flow....
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Over the years i`ve nearly wiped out several French cyclists due to the fact that they do not seem to know or understand what the word STOP means.
One particular instance springs to mind when a large group of fat lycra clad 50+ year old budding Tour de Francers just came out of a side road in front of us.
It was not in a " Priorité à Droite " area as indicated by the solid white line across the end of their road but that did not make any difference, they just came out.
They really should have bought lottery tickets that night because only gawd knows how i missed them and i was doing 70KMH.
Having said that they do exactly the same over here so maybe the very act of getting on a bicycle switches off that part of their brains.
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New lorries now have cameras installed in place of mirrors with a screen to show the view inside each door pillar so would have the same blind spots sharp turns at junctions you loose all of your rear view along truck while turning
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A bit unimaginative replacing mirrors with cameras. Lorries and large vehicles need Extra cameras to cover all blind spots. For example a camera facing down at the back of the trailer to cover the obvious blind spot behind. Do you suggest this is technically impossible?
easy solvable though.
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Not impossible but very impractical after first few miles they are blocked by road dirt, tipper after every drop every trailer would need one with universal connections here's Mercedes answer
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I cycle and rest assured, I am extremely careful of getting alongside a large (or any) vehicle. A sticker to remind cyclists can only help reduce this common (and often fatal) type of accident. The last thing any driver wants is to be involved in a court case where they have killed or injured a cyclist, even if it wasn't their fault.
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The danger is cyclists along side a large vehicle (& in blind spot) when stationary at traffic lights etc. The cyclist goes straight on, but the vehicle turns. The vehicle crushes the cyclist. All too common and sometimes a very large lorry doesn't even realize the have run over & killed anyone.
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I doubt we (the entire population) will ever completely stop these types of collisions because of the many factors involved, such as attitude, concentration, third party complications such as other pedestrians or vehicles also at play when a driver is turning, and the lack of basic understanding about the closing down of space on the inside of the turn when vehicles are turning, something most non-drivers don't seem to understand. Although its far from unheard of for car drivers and motorcyclists to try and squeeze down the inside of a turning vehicle
I'm sure that most of these accidents are the fault of poor training on the part of one or both parties, with cyclists being most at fault. But, as drivers, we know that cyclists do stupid things either by ignorance or attitude so we should take control of the situation by acting responsibly, as we would when we see children playing at the edge of the road, and assume that they ARE going to do something daft just at the wrong moment. Running someone over is not the best way to teach someone a lesson, but is is safe to expect that everyone else is not paying attention and act accordingly. We just need to keep our heads on a ball-bearing and watch our mirrors, and ALWAYS USE OUR INDICATORS.
I hope these stickers are part of an education programme of some kind about the risks, as without it I doubt many will even notice them or understand the message.
I'm sure that most of these accidents are the fault of poor training on the part of one or both parties, with cyclists being most at fault. But, as drivers, we know that cyclists do stupid things either by ignorance or attitude so we should take control of the situation by acting responsibly, as we would when we see children playing at the edge of the road, and assume that they ARE going to do something daft just at the wrong moment. Running someone over is not the best way to teach someone a lesson, but is is safe to expect that everyone else is not paying attention and act accordingly. We just need to keep our heads on a ball-bearing and watch our mirrors, and ALWAYS USE OUR INDICATORS.
I hope these stickers are part of an education programme of some kind about the risks, as without it I doubt many will even notice them or understand the message.
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I've read some of the posts here and disappointed that we get the usual suspects complaining about cyclists. As a cyclist and also a driver, I don't find these comments at all helpful. Blaming cyclists is far from the reality. If I were to list all the dangerous things some drivers do I'd be here all day and we'd be no further forward in making everybody safer.
The revised Highway Code will list a kind of priority of responsibility, ie a "hierarchy of road users which ensures that those road users who can do the greatest harm have the greatest responsibility to reduce the danger or threat they may pose to others" Revision to Highway Code
Gratuitous insults levelled at one group or another doesn't really help.
The revised Highway Code will list a kind of priority of responsibility, ie a "hierarchy of road users which ensures that those road users who can do the greatest harm have the greatest responsibility to reduce the danger or threat they may pose to others" Revision to Highway Code
Gratuitous insults levelled at one group or another doesn't really help.
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Having read through the posts in this thread, I find very little anti-cyclist material on the whole. Yes a couple of people have complained about cyclists doing stupid things - and why not complain about that.
If you look back through this forum there are several incidences of posters complaining about car, truck or even motorhome drivers often backed up with dash cam evidence, so isn't it only fair to complain when cyclists do something stupid?
In general though, the thread is to make people aware of legislation to help cyclists, which is a good thing isn't it?
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Seems very strange that a foreign country can automatically get the information needed to fine someone for speeding when we no longer get information on criminals as we did up until this year.
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Well, I ordered my Angles Morts stickers a couple of weeks ago and decided I might as well fit them. Although they are required to be fitted in 1st January, we have till the end of the year to comply.
The side ones are supposed to be a metre from the front, which means removing the Ducato badges, but I wasn’t going to do that. The regulations state if they can’t be fitted there, then as close as possible, within 3 metres.
They don’t look too bad!
The side ones are supposed to be a metre from the front, which means removing the Ducato badges, but I wasn’t going to do that. The regulations state if they can’t be fitted there, then as close as possible, within 3 metres.
They don’t look too bad!
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Good to see them fitted. They look less intrusive than I imagined. Mine arrived on Thursday, but I won’t fit them until we get back to France in due course.
I had been mulling over how I might place them without them being a permanent fixture. My van has aluminium sides and rear panel is (I think) fibreglass, so I don’t think a magnetic version would work.
Davy
I had been mulling over how I might place them without them being a permanent fixture. My van has aluminium sides and rear panel is (I think) fibreglass, so I don’t think a magnetic version would work.
Davy
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"They don't look too bad."
Can't agree with that, not your fault, but I think they look cr4p on a personal private vehicle, different for commercials though as they're covered in pointless signs.
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They do, I was trying to make myself feel better! I hate putting any stickers on vehicles, I still need to pluck up the courage to put the ‘limit de vitesse’ stickers on the back. 80,100 and 110. I’ve managed to resist for 2 years, but as only over 3500kg vehicles need the angles morts stickers, it will be obvious I need to display the speed stickers now.....
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I upgraded to 3850kg a year or so back. It isn’t obvious that my van requires the angle morts stickers but given my van is on UK plates (sort of, N. Ireland reg) it remains to be seen what the attitude of French police will be. Pre leaving I would have taken a chance on not being stopped. The legislation on these stickers refers to non French Motorhomes as well as French whose association has lobbied, in vain to date, to have leisure vehicles exempted.
However it was my understanding that your vehicle did not require speed limiting stickers if they were not required in country of residence. You have now placed a seed of doubt in my mind. I shall have to do a bit of research unless someone can link to the correct requirement.
Davy
However it was my understanding that your vehicle did not require speed limiting stickers if they were not required in country of residence. You have now placed a seed of doubt in my mind. I shall have to do a bit of research unless someone can link to the correct requirement.
Davy