runnach
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Considering that article I would envisage an ongoing reluctance to 3.5 tonne vehicles plus parking perception of more wear and tear
Camper van concerns raised in Northumberland coastal village
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mariesnowgoose
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The nature of that car park is that it will always have the problem of ongoing maintenance because of where it is situated. In reality nothing to do with the size of vehicles parking there.
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maingate
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It is still available for (daytime) parking because it does NOT belong to Northumberland County Council. When the new Unitary County Council was formed a few years ago, they laid down double yellow lines everywhere and put up lots of 'not allowed' type signs, especially in coastal areas. That is why there are very few places to stop unless you pay a parking charge. They have since relaxed a few of these since then but not many.
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I understand shifting sands , but a 3.5 tonne van is causing more wear than a passenger car , it’s the reason weight limits exist on roads and bridges, do you not agree that is how most would perceive it, more importantly a council....anyway I am pre empting a possible response
As an aside and nothing to do with campers , the motorcycle community are kicking off with restrictions in Barmouth despite plenty of space. Someone in the know has mentioned the lifeboat needs access, which proves the point there can be valid reasons
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Yes it will always have problems but the simple fact is the heavier the vehicle the more damage is done to the road.
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Chairman Shaun Whyte, who raised the issue with Northumbria Police, said: “There have been a number of incidents of camper vans staying overnight both on the beach (car park) and also around the village (Riverside).
"I checked with the police but, effectively, if there are no regulations in place to prevent that and they are actually on the highway then there is nothing they can do. "I have put a call into Northumberland County Council to see if any bylaws have been infringed. They haven’t got back to me yet but I suspect probably not.”
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By his admission they are doing nothing illegal
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So if it isnt a Council Car Park and is managed by locals was it the Burbage then all money made in parking fees needs to be reinvested in the surface.So whether motohomes or cars what is different if Motorhomes are charged slightly more, due to being heavier.If they were allowed to overnight it would attract many more motorhomes so more money in the kitty to maintain the surface.Easy.
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Exactly NOTHING ILLEGAL being the key.The highways are Public Roads YES PUBLIC.So the Police arent interested.MMM a precedent being set here maybe.
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mickymost
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A bit like i said in post #43
Not rocket Science really is it BUT these places seem to discriminate for some strange reason.What harm are overnighters doing providing they are not dumping rubbish (many pick up other rubbish left) and dont discard loo cassette contents which is another one they try to accuse us of.
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They are not discriminating though. The people charged with looking after the land have made a set of rules and regulations which includes 'no overnighting by motorhomes'. Without seeing all of the R & R, it may be that Cars are not allowed to stay overnight either.
What it boils down to is this:
It is not your land but the caretakers of the property will allow you on it subject to you following their terms and conditions.
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I wonder. As Bournemouth beach was covered in crap, why dont they ban people from the beach? Leeds at Elland Road, covered in tons of crap from celebrating foorball fans. Are they going to ban football fans? Crap from campers at beauty spots......ban motorhomes. most of whom dont cover the place in sh$$ Theres one rule for some one rule for others.
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Try banning cars from a car park, or dog walkers due to dog mess. See what would happen
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When in this have I tried to claim its MY LAND, as in your reply quoting me you say its not your land! And for your information I have never been to this car park or beach we have never been to that area of the UK
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mickymost
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Maingate did you bother to click the link on the first post of this thread in the Northumberland Gazette as I dont think you did
You Say they are Not Discriminating though
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"That would be a positive although it would be a pain for them to have to go down and lock up every evening and open every morning.
"It’s obviously a problem and it’s something we’ve got to keep an eye on because it’s a cheap overnight stay for them.”
Coun George Ternent said: “Maybe we could explore whether it’s possible to get a local bylaw to stop camper vans parking in the village?”
So stopping Camper vans parking in a village is NOT DISCRIMINATING sorry but I think it is.
It says it will be a pain to have to go down to unlock and lock a gate morning and evening in relation to a beach car park.Well they cant have their cake and eat it can they?
You Say they are Not Discriminating though
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"That would be a positive although it would be a pain for them to have to go down and lock up every evening and open every morning.
"It’s obviously a problem and it’s something we’ve got to keep an eye on because it’s a cheap overnight stay for them.”
Coun George Ternent said: “Maybe we could explore whether it’s possible to get a local bylaw to stop camper vans parking in the village?”
So stopping Camper vans parking in a village is NOT DISCRIMINATING sorry but I think it is.
It says it will be a pain to have to go down to unlock and lock a gate morning and evening in relation to a beach car park.Well they cant have their cake and eat it can they?
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I knew it would be interesting. This burgage system. Is it English only? Does anyone know if there is a similar system of ancient rights in Scotland which allowed the commons holders (??) of Hawick to permit motorhome overnight parking in defiance of the local council? There's something in my memory about this. The permitted parking in Hawick is not because of the council but in spite of it?
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How do you know they are discriminating against Motorhomes that use the Beach car park? I have never said anything about roadside parking in the village, I know that is legal (under most circumstances). And you were the one who used the word 'discriminating'. not me. You seem to have gone off on a tangent, so I will try to be clearer. By using the car park, you have entered into a contract and paid for a service. If you do not abide by the terms of the contract you are in breach of it. With motorhomes, you will not pay a penalty ... every other innocent motorhome owner that is stopped using the car park will pay the penalty if they fit a height barrier.
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So you’ve joined CAMpRA and are making a position contribution. Amongst the gloom they are actually seeing some bright shoots as a result of actually talking to the people who make decisions rather than whingeing to each other.I have been knackered for a long time. I am not some newcomer to wilding and nearly all of the spots we used are long gone. That is why I wild much less these days and it means I am now paying to overnight. That has cost me a lot of money over the years due to idiots buying motorhomes.
The only thing worse than these idiots are the whingeing motorhomers who complain all the time but don't get off their arse to do anything about it except complain. Like you.
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Really ? I thought they let you trade where you wanted, don’t need licences rent free etc.......same as when we put valentines fair on , 5 k a week was the rent then had to hire toilets etc pay hirings etc some folk have no idea